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Rottendog. Anyone know why the website/account is suspended?


By sniffsnerk

43 days ago



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    #101 21 days ago
    Quoted from Robotworkshop:

    Maybe others will chime in too but it is certainly something to consider. They don't have to be huge, just something reasonable.

    For the pad size, I've finally found the 'golden standard' which works very well for me. IPC-2222 Class A. This is the industry standard for most robust productability in low density applications.

    To quote the IPC standard....
    Hole size = maximum lead diameter + 0.25mm
    Pad diameter = minimum hole size + 0.7mm (there's a longer formula, but this is what it works out to).

    Before I found the formulas it was a lot of guesswork that didn't always go well. Just make sure to measure the max lead size properly for square pins, it's from corner to corner, not from flat to flat. I've done that a few times and it gives you holes that are too small.

    #102 21 days ago
    Quoted from lordloss:

    If he wants a sample of a pinball basement board.... Let me know...

    I will be talking to him in a couple of hours. I'm sure he'd like to get one. He's been on a system 11 machine buying spree.

    Edit:

    Yes, he would like a sample board. He said he'd be buying some more boards again shortly.

    #103 20 days ago

    Has anyone actually tried one of these new wpc89 power driver boards in a whitewater yet?

    #104 20 days ago
    Quoted from HHaase:

    That's one thing, at some point, people will need to realize..... DIP components are almost completely gone from industrial manufacturing, and are becoming increasingly difficult to source. We are not far from the point where it will impossible to make boards with these parts.

    On all the boards I design for my own personal use, I use SMD. Easier to design for, and route PCBs for - especially audio segments where you need a good separation of grounds, or good unbroken ground planes.

    #105 20 days ago
    Quoted from MikeSinMD:

    Has anyone actually tried one of these new wpc89 power driver boards in a whitewater yet?

    The reason I ask is because the rottendog ones do not work in a whitewater. I am not the only one that found that out. It’s weird because it does work in so many others that share that same board with white water. I don’t know why, but the rotten dog board just does not work in a white water. I am interested in buying one of these boards but I would just like to know if someone has actually tried one in a Whitewater. I know what a pain in the ass it was dealing with rotten dog on that problem and I don’t want the headaches again. Thanks!

    #106 20 days ago
    Quoted from MikeSinMD:

    The reason I ask is because the rottendog ones do not work in a whitewater. I am not the only one that found that out. It’s weird because it does work in so many others that share that same board with white water. I don’t know why, but the rotten dog board just does not work in a white water. I am interested in buying one of these boards but I would just like to know if someone has actually tried one in a Whitewater. I know what a pain in the ass it was dealing with rotten dog on that problem and I don’t want the headaches again. Thanks!

    I might be able to send you a board to test out, if it doesn't work just pay return shipping. I will look into the white water issue first and see if that game had a different board revision or not.

    #107 20 days ago
    Quoted from Pinball_Basement:

    I might be able to send you a board to test out, if it doesn't work just pay return shipping. I will look into the white water issue first and see if that game had a different board revision or not.

    I believe from what I've read the chaser lights for the topper are also problematic/don't work.

    #108 20 days ago

    This is amazing news! I've had a STTNG and a WH20 down for a year dealing with rottendog WPC89 Driver boards.
    Same experience as others. Definitely not tested. Pain in the ass getting a refund or repair only for it to have new issues obvious issues. - Original boards worked just fine swapped in from other games.
    If this new board works in whitewater I'll be placing an order for 2.

    #109 20 days ago
    Quoted from Pinball_Basement:

    ... They also most likely used lead free solder, so that makes working on the boards harder.

    Just add some 37/63 solder w/a rosin core...much easier then.

    Can't stand the lead free stuff due to the higher melting point. Lead free is susceptible to tin wiskering, unless precautions are taken. That's a big deal for things that can easily have a 30 year lifespan (i.e. military equipment).

    #110 20 days ago
    Quoted from Crash:

    I believe from what I've read the chaser lights for the topper are also problematic/don't work.

    I've heard that the Rottendog WPC driver isn't bad in some games but in some of the widebody games can cause weird noise with the sound card, etc. I just picked one up that needed repair as a backup board. Should have it fixed this week once the odd .62 ohm resistors arrive.

    One thing I noticed it that it uses 5 large 10,000uf capacitors for filtering instead of the larger 15,000uf caps on my factory Williams/Bally board. Thought that was an odd substitution since I'd replace any of the factory caps before they dipped to 10,000uf and would consider those bad. I wonder if replacing those 5 with the 15,000uf caps would help make some of the issues people see with the replacement board go away?

    #111 20 days ago

    I'm certain that would cause issues. I've seen lower value capacitors used in some aftermarket power supplies that causes the 12v supply to dip. I confirmed this by swapping the capacitor with one of the correct value. I'd say if you have a White Water, replace those caps before installing the Rottendog driver board.

    #112 20 days ago
    Quoted from Pinball_Basement:

    I might be able to send you a board to test out, if it doesn't work just pay return shipping. I will look into the white water issue first and see if that game had a different board revision or not.

    That would be awesome! If it does work as it should, I would definitely buy.

    #113 14 days ago
    Quoted from Pinball_Basement:

    A local pin repair shop has a game plan fixture i'd like to buy if he is selling, as eventually i'd like to keep expanding to niche stuff like game plan and give it some love.

    Holy sh!t. If you make Game Plan stuff I’ll lose my marbles.
    I’m on the list for the next batch of Echo Lake boards. They’re about to make a new run of them again.

    I asked outright “what would happen if you or your shop wasn’t around tomorrow and I needed to swap out the rom? Could I or someone else do it?”
    He told me no.
    That’s a bit disappointing that it’s proprietary.
    Game Plan games are amazing, and I only know of 2 places that fix the boards and most of them are absolutely destroyed.

    I would love to see more boards available to fix these games!

    #114 14 days ago
    Quoted from Isochronic_Frost:

    Holy sh!t. If you make Game Plan stuff I’ll lose my marbles.
    I’m on the list for the next batch of Echo Lake boards. They’re about to make a new run of them again.
    I asked outright “what would happen if you or your shop wasn’t around tomorrow and I needed to swap out the rom? Could I or someone else do it?”
    He told me no.
    That’s a bit disappointing that it’s proprietary.
    Game Plan games are amazing, and I only know of 2 places that fix the boards and most of them are absolutely destroyed.
    I would love to see more boards available to fix these games!

    I need to advertise more and get these Williams boards selling first. Sales are OK so far, but not enough to expand to other board types yet.

    Dream is to have every major test fixture and boards for that Era

    #115 13 days ago
    Quoted from lordloss:

    I need to advertise more and get these Williams boards selling first. Sales are OK so far, but not enough to expand to other board types yet.
    Dream is to have every major test fixture and boards for that Era

    I just prototyped an 8x10 lamp matrix set for Sega/Stern. Want a sample?

    -Hans

    #116 13 days ago

    I will be the test guy for whitewater. If it works, I will buy at least 1, maybe 2.

    1 week later
    #117 2 days ago

    Just had to come back and give a big shout to yaksplat - that explanation of the 6821s being pulls, causing you display issues wqs exactly was fixed the MPU9211 I was struggling with. Thank you so much for taking the time out to post your talk with Xpin.

    #118 2 days ago
    Quoted from statictrance:

    Just had to come back and give a big shout to yaksplat - that explanation of the 6821s being pulls, causing you display issues wqs exactly was fixed the MPU9211 I was struggling with. Thank you so much for taking the time out to post your talk with Xpin.

    Ha! That's awesome. Glad my knowledge regurgitation helped!

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