March 29th is the R&RHOF 2019 Celebration.

Unlike the Grammys, the HOF requires an artist to have been on the market for at least 25 years.

So old men tend to like it a lot more, but they still complain that Rap is not music, or their favorite band was snubbed .

This year:

Def Leppard
Devo
Janet Jackson
John Prine
Kraftwerk
LL Cool J
MC5
Radiohead
Rage Against the Machine
Roxy Music
Rufus featuring Chaka Khan
Stevie Nicks
The Cure
The Zombies
Todd Rundgren

#RockHall2019
#MuteMichael

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Apparently, this year the top 5 inductees were chosen by fan ballot, rather than the HOF committee.

Still, too many artists will die before seeing themselves inducted; but I understand, it's a tourist attraction.

LL Cool J "Mamma Said Knock You Out" (live with full band)

Genuine Rock N Roll would only give us Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, and Bill Haley & the Comets

If you want Black Sabbath (Heavy Metal), Yes (Prog Rock), Ramones (punk rock), Blondie (New Wave), AC/DC (Hard Rock), BB King (Blues), Alice Cooper (Shock Rock), Parliament (Funk), Creedance (Country Rock), T Rex (Glam), Smokey Robinson (Motown) or anything else, you've got to open your mind to endless possibilities.

Roxy Music - In Every Dream Home a Heartache

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Roxy Music - Mother of Pearl

Devo - Girl U Want

Wasted · Def Leppard

The Cure - Fascination Street

STEVIE NICKS - RHIANNON

Todd Rundgren - I Saw The Light

John Prine

I got free passes a few years ago from a client.

Super boring.

Seemed like the mostly British bands, Beatles, Stones, Cream, Kinks, Who, Yardbirds, Bowie, Zep, Queen, Van Morrison, Donovan, Rod Stewart, Deep Purple....

It seemed even moldier than I expected.

Even for free, it did nothing for me.

I missed the exhibit of Cynthia Plaster Caster.

An actual exhibit of real art.

It probably would have been worth $30 to see castings of Jimi, Jimmy, and Jim
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I laughed at the Grammys where she had to change the opening lyrics from:

My bitches all bad, my niggas all real
I ride on his d*ck, in some big tall heels

Into:

My girls all bad, my boys all real
I ride in his truck, in my big tall heels

It had to be a CBS nightmare combing through all her lyrics, lol

I think the problem was that as a kid in the mid 80s, you were still listening to your father's Beatles music.

There was so much high energy music in 1985, covering new ground, that your parent's would have totally hated.

Tupac Shakur got a degree in dance from Julliard. That did not hurt his street cred one bit.

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Plenty of white man's "rock" music is spoken word. I don't see anybody questioning whether it is **music** or not.

Leonard Cohen - Democracy

Lou Reed - Walk On the Wild Song

Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds "Do you love me?"

I love when you try to make my point for me.

2PAC was Modern Dance (think RENT)

But took that training and launched into a Rap sensation, first dancing for the Digital Underground (Humpty Dance) and then on his own.

If you want to study Broadway singling and dancing, Julliard is a great place.

Julliard teaches electronic music, but not as a degree program.

There is no Rock, Blues, Rap or Heavy Metal degree programs at Julliard, so I guess that those forms are not music?

(see how quickly you paint yourself into a corner?)

Rap is music, even if old white guys can't understand it. Just because one school does not have a degree in it, does not prevent it from being music.

Morrissey has a pretty good sense of humor.

The Meatmen performed a song for years called "Morrissey Must Die"

Yet, Morrissey chose the Meatmen for the hidden track on the Smiths tribute album

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How Soon Is Now - The Meatmen

Now your talking!

They teach Hip Hop.

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Don't get hung up about Rap.

Rap is now a very tiny segment of the market, it's peak was decades ago.

The most popular genre of popular music is Hip Hop with 27% of the market (depending on the poll of course), Rap is only 4% overall nowadays.

Think of Billy Joel "We Didn't Start the Fire". That was a white guy trying to write a Rap crossover song when Rap was at it's peak.

How do you teach Death Metal?

Find words that rhyme with Satan, Corpse, Impale, Priest, Demon, Hellfire, Pentagram, Golden Rings and Crimson Kings.

If there is someone who is entertained by it, and feels that is high-art, I'm happy they found their genre.

Cannibal Corpse "Evisceration Plague"

Those are all great bands, but from 3 decades ago.

Now I see why you think that urban music is still "rap" music

Relax, let this generation enjoy their Hip Hop music.

Prog is OK.

It's good that it ever existed.

Vid: Dude, we went and saw Return To Forever last night, and there were chicks there!!
Scott: No fnckin' way!!
Vid: Yeah, they tore our tickets.

Never gets old

How about a drive thru?

You could look at the picture and then buy your $12 hamburger and $10 beer.

Creedance Clearwater, Johnny Cash, Carl Perkins, The Band, all were country rock.

Ray Charles, Prince, Sam Cook, James Brown, Clyde McPhatter. Little Richard, The Coasters, Bo Diddly, Marvin Gay, BB King - no lack of black artists at the HOF

It was great, but after almost 40 years, Rap and Hip Hop has less and less samples.

When it was a fresh idea, it made sense to sample JB, Van Halen or Aerosmith to try and crossover some white kids.

But now, when it's the dominant genre of music, it makes financial sense to not share 1/2 of your profits with some other writer who you got your sample from.

Outkast used to have some tasty, vintage sounding loops, but they wrote them rather than sampled them. More money for themselves.

f-yeah

Last time I saw the Meatman, it was "Two down, two to go!"

Well, you have to be around at least 25 years to get into the HOF, so that only leaves us a 5 year span.

NWA, Prince, Public Enemy, Michael "Pedophile" Jackson, and Run-DMC were obvious choices that were already nominated.

I'm sure Rage, Robert Cray, Slash, God Forbid, Bad Brains, Living Color, Ice-T, Skindred, and Gary Clark Jr will keep the queue filled with Blacks.

There is even a video on Clape's site where he go's to Tesco Vee's house and fixes his CFBL for him.

His house is filled to the ceiling with toys and old monster movie stuff.

I'd say what killed Rock was that none of the new rock bands were scary to parents.

But black guys with tats on their faces and empowered black women singing about climbing onto a big black d*ck, put the fear of god into the parents of white suburbia.
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Tesco is a high school math teacher, it comes with the job.

Only in Hip Hop or Zef

I was paraphrasing robert fripps earlier post

We were all about Deafhaven in the Grammy post:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/don-t-be-a-lame-old-man-on-grammy-night#post-4831811

Not just music, but magic.

Put your cans on and listen:

And ironically, the guy that does the most samples of anyone, GirlTalk, does not pay any royalties.

He samples like 80 artists in every song!

War Pigs

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Play your Part

Stuntin' Like My Daddy
by Birdman and Lil Wayne (2006)

Edwin Starr's War
by Edwin Starr (1970)

Nothing Compares 2 U
by Sinéad O'Connor (1990)

Gimme Some Lovin'
by The Spencer Davis Group (1966)

Int'l Players Anthem (I Choose You)
by UGK feat. OutKast (2007)

Aaliyah's We Need a Resolution
by Aaliyah (2001)

What You Know
by T.I. (2006)

Let My Love Open the Door
by Pete Townshend (1980)

What's Your Fantasy
by Ludacris feat. Shawnna (2000)

Cupid Shuffle
by Cupid (2007)

Oh, Pretty Woman
by Roy Orbison (1964)

Big Pimpin'
by Jay-Z feat. UGK (1999)

Freedom
by Rage Against the Machine (1992)

We're Not Gonna Take It
by Twisted Sister (1984)

Bossy
by Kelis feat. Too Short (2005)

Hunger Strike
by Temple of the Dog (1991)

Walk It Out
by Unk (2006)

Booty House Anthems Mix 1
by DJ Funk (1999)

Pop Bottles
by Birdman feat. Lil Wayne (2007)

The Heart of Rock & Roll
by Huey Lewis and the News (1983)

I Just Want to Celebrate
by Rare Earth (1972)

Gettin' Some
by Shawnna (2006)

Pump It (Mix 2)
by DJ Funk (1999)

Take It to the Floor
by Young Jeezy feat. Bone Crusher (2003)

G-Slide (Tour Bus)
by Lil Mama (2007)

Drop Drop
by Joe Budden (2002)

Shhhhh.....don't tell Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/Feed-Animals-Explicit-Girl-Talk/dp/B001ELBVLG/ref=sr_1_1

It's another crossover trick.

Old men, still listening to Sabbath after 50 years, are tricked into listening to some new music.

If even 10% of them decide that the new music has better bass & dynamics and the old sounds anemic, the crossover worked.

If even 15% of them play the new track in the car to connect with their highschool teens, the crossover worked.

"Daaaaaddddd, why do you even have a boomin' stereo in the car if all you listen to is Rush.. ........ ...............................Limbaugh?"