"Help me find the rare machines before anyone else discovers they're rare..."

I got ur data right here. I've noticed a trend these days of a lot of users posting wand ads for insanely rare NOS PF's and games as well as making posts to stir people up and then stalking people who downvote those posts. Makes me want to look elsewhere to try and actually participate in a community that appreciates others for who they are and not for what they own or what games they want to whine about when the code is not exactly what they expected from an $8K toy.

I don't think poking fun = an "attack". If you dish it out, you have to take it too.

The "trends of what is going on in the community". That's easy... Just look at the front page on the Pinside forums. Then listen to Kaneda's podcast a few times so he can "set you straight". Total poop show. I would rather stick sharp objects in my eyes.

Honestly, I have to stay in specific (tech or buy/sell/parts, off topic) forums or I get overwhelmed with the waterfall of drama that I could care less about. If it's not about repairing, playing, or collecting pinball is some way, my attention is quickly lost.

#1 on the don't care at all TOPICS - ALL playfield issues threads. Followed closely by all price trend threads. Followed closely by "rumor and please make this game" threads and the "I got screwed and I'm outing this guy" threads.

Why would Robin give away something he can monetize?

Exactly. This whole site is a front for Robin’s secret plan to manipulate the second-hand pinball market. A plan he has exploited in order to purchase 72 Baywatch machines over the past ten years for a total cost of $680. When his data algorithms proclaim the Baywatch market has peaked he will flood the market with $14k Baywatch machines and disappear, having finally become “the Baywatch Billionaire”.

Corrected.

I have been thinking this for a while, I was just scared to say it. Damn Robin and his Baywatch's.

So it's a profit deal....

Are they all imamaculate?

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Let Robin monetize it if he wants. I’d pay for access to certain types of trend type data. The question is would it cost more to develop/provide than the community is willing to pay for it? I suspect the answer to that is yes.

This is the #1 issue in pinball right now whether or not you buy new or used newer games. I personally don't understand why anyone would not only ignore it but hate the actual topic.

Really just a short sighted, stupid comment.

Why in the world would Stern's playfield return policy be the #1 issue to a guy who is buying Shaq and Sharkey's Shootout?? All this shit gets sorted one way or another pretty quickly, there will be plenty of good used Maidens and JP2s to buy down the road. It's much healthier to NOT worry about this crap all the time! Pretty short sighted and stupid comment from yourself trying to crawl into someone else's head LOL

All of these "new issues" have been around for 20+ years. ALL OF THEM. I have never cared about them and I don't care about them now. You understand now bud? Why do I have to care? What does CARING OR TALKING accomplish?

Everyone just likes to hear themselves push the keyboard keys in those threads. Nothing is ever resolved and nothing ever will be resolved. It's pointless. "Playfield issues" and "I got my feelings hurt in a deal" threads are the worst, most toxic discussions on Pinside, period. They are bad for you... so bad.

Businesses cut corners to make as much profit as possible. Pinball is not special regarding this simple fact. Nothing anyone types on a forum is going to change a damn thing. The keyboard do-good-ers will not sway how a business does business or does not do business. Never will... never.

If it keeps you entertained and chiming in with the problems that you have, great! Keep at it.. Just not entertaining for me. I've seen it all and it ain't going to change.

Funny. It did take me a long time to find those titles in great condition.

Robin does share data. I recall Eclectic Gamers Podcast Episode 60 from April of last year referencing some of that data. (Dennis, Tony, and guest Ryan)

https://eclecticgamerspodcast.wordpress.com/2018/04/22/episode-60-ryan-raps-pinball/

"After the news, a collection segment begins, where Ryan gives his thoughts on pin collecting from a player’s standpoint. Two data segments follow this, both involving Pinside data. The first examines game ratings versus category of ownership. The second explores the ratio of wishlist to ownership for the top 200 solid-state pins."

That is at the 1hr3min mark.

Yes, I understand now, bud. You are a moron who doesn't care about the recent change in the clearcoat/printing process that has destroyed playfields straight out of the box. You are an idiot who thinks that a group of concerned consumers shouldn't band together and make these issues known in order to fix them. You have 20 years of sticking your head in the sand, got it.

LOL. You have fooled yourself beyond being saved. Sorry, I didn't realize that now you are the leader of a "group of concerned consumers" that are banning together... what is the name of this awesome organinzation?

I realize calling people names is cool and irresistible when they don't understand. It's ok, I understand now too. Maybe you just need a hug... or a shot of Jack.

Recent? Have you forgotten about the huge scandal when metallica playfields were shedding art in big chunks a few years ago? *Somehow* Stern managed to survive that horror and fixed the problem... then we had another YUUUGE scandal involving dimpling, until it wasn't.. and now today's OMGWTF is chipping around posts. And most of the folks interested in pinball are ignoring it now like they did then, because few people overall are buying brand new games. Stern will sort it out, blank playfields will get shipped and thrown into closets, and life will go on.

No, I have not forgotten. And it was because people grouped together to complain that forced a solution to the problem. You think Stern or JJP would fix anything if people just went about their business and said "not my problem"? You can thank those people for the quality we have today, sturdier cabinets, minimal ghosting, no more pegs to hold up the playfield etc. Now with the change of printing playfields there is a new issue to address and hold them accountable for. It helps everyone.

I don't drink but I'll certainly take a hug!

*..people who had recently bought or were thinking of buying a new Stern or who just wanted to complain in general.. e.g. not Snyper

The official Pinside hug

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