It doesn't matter, the game could play worse than Avengers and there would still be 300 people that would buy the machine regardless.
Quoted from PinChili:
As other's have noted, if this really is going to be just another monochrome DMD I think that will be a bit disappointing. I don't understand why a color DMD would not be implemented at a minimum.
You seem to speculate a lot on here. Do you do that in your daily life as well? People that speculate without concrete facts drive me batty.
Quoted from PinChili:
This is when Pinside gets ridiculous. I stated a simple opinion "I'll be disappointed IF it's just another monochrome DMD". That's it. Calm down people. The world is not ending.
Seriously dude you're crying because you got 4 thumbs down?? Come have a beer with me and Kaneda and we'll tell you about getting thumbs down. You'll come out of the bar with thick skin.
What's the over/under on whether Rob Zombie will actually survive to see the final product? Oh...wait...I was thinking of JJP
They should do a contest. If you can party with Rob Zombie for 24 hours and survive you get a free machine. Just a thought.
I'm in, got the email exactly at noon so couldn't be more excited. Already put my check in the mail for the deposit and the postman has already picked it up! Now the wait begins.
I have not received my AMH yet even though I ordered in April. I once again want to reiterate that because of the fact I know Spooky are great people and they constantly give updates I never feel anxious or angry about getting my game. I know it will come and the communication from Kayte is what puts me at ease.
I think what is great about what you are saying Brian is the fact that Spooky will always deliver. So, unless they are under some sort of contractual agreement I'm certain the majority of the buyers would have no issues waiting another 3 months to see some improvements in the playfield. However, be careful what you wish for. Since we cannot play the game, most of us at least, it could already have the perfect amount of flow and shots to be an already excellent game.
Quoted from dirtbag66:
How much does this machine cost?
$5,995 plus shipping.
Quoted from dirtbag66:
With all the talk about the artwork, I just feel like people are forgetting they are buying a pinball machine, not a piece of art.
Totally agree. I had a CV that was beautiful and the beauty of the game actually kept it in my house 6 months longer than it should have because I never played it.
Quoted from Aurich:
I would feel douchey doing it. Just listing it on Pinside for what? $7k? I dunno, whatever, more than I paid for it, while other people are still waiting for theirs? I don't mind listing a pin for more after I put work into it, but that's different.
Look, it's just playfield art. Spooky has my utter respect no matter what happens. If Charlie said "you know, you guys might be onto something, we want this to be the best we can, we're going to give it some thought" I'd be stoked. But it's his game, and his company, and he'll sell out no matter what, so I have no worries about him. And if I don't get it life will go on, there are lots of great pins out there I haven't owned.
I just have a funny personal connection to this one, and I can't help but want the best for it is all.
Dude give it a rest, no one cares. Don't you have better things to do in life than post 75+ times in 48 hours about a game you might not even buy? Seriously?
So this is pretty insane. I put my check in my mailbox on Friday when Kayte sent out the announcement email and it already arrived today. Glad I saved them $30 and nice job by the Postal Service!
Quoted from Xerico:
If RZ becomes a $20K game, I'm selling mine to the first deep pocket sugar daddy!
I doubt it ever becomes a $20K game because in the case of BBB the buy in was much higher if I'm not mistaken and therefore the selling price would be higher. However, if the video is awesome I can definitely see the game going into the $12-$15K range.
What would both RZ and AMH as a pair be worth NIB in 3 years if someone decided not to open them?
Quoted from RazerX:
Not insane at all in my experience, the USPS has always been quite speedy for me. I did the same and expected them to get it today (as they did).
From Tampa Florida when my mail was picked up at 6 pm on a Friday night and the check needed to go to Wisconsin?? I'd say that's not the norm. Also, Kayte was shocked as well so apparently you are in the minority.
Thinking of a polite way to say I would sell the game a month or so after unboxing it...
Sorry for the possible redundant question but when is the first construction on new games expected to begin?
Quoted from neurokinetik:
Really liked what I saw (and even more so: what I heard) in the stream. I'm guessing the wait list got even longer...
I agree. Quite honestly, I was on the fence after seeing the promo video. However, after watching the video, particularly the last 20 minutes where he got 7 ball multi ball, I was impressed. The original video doesn't do the game justice and the shots are really cool. I don't think it's going to be as hard as IM once you get the feel of things.
Quoted from bigd1979:
Its already worth 1500 more than it costs orgianly ? Sounds like buying a spooky pin is a no brainer in the future and a great investment ? Lol
I know pins are not a investment but your saying this is a sure thing......
I'm saying nothing of the sort. I'm only using the current game (AMH) as a barometer and those games are fetching $1,500 above list. I don't think pins are an investment either but in the case of these two machines they are definitely above market value.
Quoted from lordloss:
I doubt Rob would be willing to let another pin be made if barely any of his fans could actually buy a pin.
That's Rob's choice but if and when another pinball is made in his name it will likely be postmortem. FYI, I don't see a ton of requests for a Jimmy Hendrix or John Lennon pinball machine.
Quoted from rubberducks:
I really don't think it'll take them 18 months to build 300 RZs. I'd wager well under a year.
You do realize it took them over a year and a half to build 150 AMH correct? Obviously, I own an AMH and quite frankly I'm having the most fun with that game than I have with any game for a long, long time. That being said, I know they have a new warehouse and this is their second game but expecting them to just churn out 300 machines in 1 year with no blips along the way is a pipe dream. The Spooky folks know I love 'em so no apology needed here. Just being realistic.
Well Pinside has had the "double post" bug for years and no one complains! Law, you should have figured out after a few years that when you hit enter on your first post and it freezes to not hit submit again!
Quoted from sevenrites:
Is there any way to make sure all Rob Zombie and America's Most Haunted pins have someone knowledgeable with Spooky on hand at all future shows? I was more than disappointed with the poor maintenance, terrible setup and lack of volume on the games I tried to play at Allentown. If that was what I had to base my purchase on, I'm sorry, but it was that bad... The games look awesome and I enjoyed AMH when it was setup properly and I could hear it. But when I saw that and RZ at Allentown, it was like someone set them up and just left them go... Seemed like a kick in the nuts to those who worked so hard to make those games, for them to be so seemingly neglected during a major show. Not to take away from Spooky or single them out - this isn't a DP thread but Big Lebowski seemed to have a similar fate there as well.
I agree 100%, the lack of effort in shows just killed sales for both machines
Quoted from GAP:
Here is video #2 of Rob Zombie Play. You can see American Witch and Dead City Radio modes completed.
» YouTube video
What's wrong with your mini playfield flipper? Never moves when you hit the left flipper. Is there a separate button for it? If so that would suck.
Quoted from snakesnsparklers:
It's not enabled every time you hit the VUK. Sometimes it's meant to just drop.
OK awesome thanks. I guess they really emphasized the upper playfield flipper during the promo but when Dead Flip spent 2 hours playing the game I guess I never got a really good look up there like I did in the video posted here.
Excellent HUO game play video though.
Quoted from marcos:
Like it or not, Pinside is currently your primary audience/customer base, which can make things tough on you. However, to disconnect yourself from it would not be in your interest.
Hey man, this isn't freaking Good Fellas. Also, Pinside doesn't hang on your every thought or whim. Now, shoo along. We have good games to enjoy without you!
Rob Zombie #55 in the house! I must say, I wasn't sure what to expect but I'm absolutely blown away. This is a super fun game and glad I did not sell. Thanks to Khabbi for helping with the set up. We did have one small problem after playing a few games that other owners may encounter. The ball kickout underneath the mini playfield stopped working after a while. We went and checked the mechanism and all seemed fine. Then we looked at the fuses and sure enough one was blown. Luckily Walmart had a pack of 3 amp fuses and now she works perfectly. Notice the Pinball Life Knocker installed in the head. Now on to the photos...
Yes, Charlie installed it just before shipping. It really adds to the game and is REALLY loud. LOL
Quoted from HappyDayz:
Hmm, which version of the software does your game have on it? Is it version 8? I'm curious if this is still a software issue in regards to blowing a fuse. Looks gorgeous though!
You know, for some reason I want to say it's still on 7. I'll go to the website right now and see if 8 is available. I just hate updating on Spooky machines because then I have to drag out my laptop.
Thanks Waddle, I looked for it and I couldn't find it. Going back to Khabbi's comment, I totally agree that this game sucks when watching the video. I had a few things to do this morning and as I was getting my haircut all I could think of was coming back to my house and playing another game.
I don't get Fawzma's directions on his site. I don't want to right click and format the existing SD card in the machine do I? If not, why does it not make it more clear to NOT do that. These directions are much clearer:
No where in the Spooky instructions does it say I have to format my SD card. So why would I want to do it now? Why can't I just add the beta code to my SD card per the instructions?
I'm not messing with this until it's on Spooky's site.
Quoted from WaddleJrJr:
Yes, you do want to format the card.
Download Fawzma's zip file, quick format your card, and then extract the contents of the zip file to your card. Then put the card in your game, hold down the second little blue button from the right, and then power on the game while holding down that button. Once the update countdown starts you just wait for it finish and then bam, done.
OK perfect thanks. Maybe I'll give it a go. Thanks again for letting me and others know how easy it is.
Quoted from FawzmaGames:
You have to format the Sd cards, deleting or overwriting files on them will cause problems.
If the spooky site doesn't say to format, and I think it does (there is a format screenshot). I'll update the spooky site to stress the format process. This could explain some odd behavior that's been reported recently.
OK makes total sense. It wasn't you, it's just that both seem to contradict what you do. I was pretty concerned because I didn't want to brick my board.
OK, now back to see if I can blow this fuse again. It hasn't blown in at least 30 games with probably 40-50 trips into the VUK.
Quoted from timtim:
Give waddle a break.
I don't get it either. $6,500 is NOT a life changing amount of money.However, in this case it would definitely benefit the OP's business. I'm always fascinated about the opinions that guys like Waddle should have backed out and gotten their deposit back. It's not like he's just flipping it the day he got it NIB. He played it, didn't like it, and is now selling it.
There will be a thread 2 years from now saying: "Man, I should have jumped on that $13K RZ while I had the chance."
Quoted from Jazman:
Jeez people. If you have the game and like the game, keep it. If you have the game and don't like the game, sell it. How is RZ different than any other pin we all (presumably) own? We buy when we want something and we sell when we don't.
These are just high prices toys. Some people collect cars. Some collect coins. We collect pin games. Chill out and have some fun!
UGH, I screwed up in putting in the new code I guess and now the DMD just says "RAM0"
Quoted from KingPinGames:
Also, make sure the data cable from the cpu to the display is plugged in on the display. On mine the cable is too short to have the display panel lay flat so I have to unplug it. I forgot to plug it back in and it showed "ram0".
Definitely a good idea so I tried it thanks. Unfortunately, did not work but worth a try.
Quoted from idtattoo:
I use a mac and it worked perfect, just follow the directions, if you skip a step it will give you an error.
I'm positive I did not delete the entire contents until "after" I put the card in the machine and tried again after it was already bricked. Since I do not have a SD card reader in my PC, my Surface, nor my work laptop, I'm assuming it's OK to go ahead and buy a USB to SD reader for $10 or so? I just don't feel like ruining another board.
Quoted from bemmett:
Nevermind found them, hidden in those black covers. Still curious on the cause of these fuses blowing, seems a common problem occurring for a lot of people.
They are very easy to replace and I don't typically like to work on machines. However, I'm getting better and better each day working on them and aren't as afraid to pull up the playfield to figure out what's wrong.
As for the fuse, which fuse is blowing? If it's the far left fuse (looking at the board from the player's view) then that is the fuse most are having issues with. I can positively say 100% that my knocker was causing that fuse to blow. Otherwise, I've had zero fuse issues.
My center ramp is not registering points, any suggestions? I just noticed this recently as of the last code and am kind of bummed out about it. Any advice before I contact Charlie would be great.
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