Kicking myself for not getting in on this. I really like the feel and flavor of AMH and this looks to be in the same vein. The only consolation is that More Human than Human is not included! Anyone getting out ?

7 Fucking Balls! I'm going to eat some Fried Chicken tonight. STOKED

I like this attitude. And I know you want to skip the pre-order bullshit, and I appreciate that too. Your model is great.

If I could just say one thing that bothers me, it's that we're being given a week to decide (no problem, plenty of time) but without seeing any gameplay. It's hard to commit without seeing it flip. It sounds like we won't get that until January, which is pretty long past the deadline.

I'm mulling things over currently. Gameplay would be awesome. Just saying.

I want it. And I agree with you and see where you are coming from. I was just curious what would happen if for some unforeseen reason I had to bail. Can't predict the future.

I personally love the playfield art. I've always been a bit of an insomniac, and as a 13 year old, I heard Dragula for the first time on the radio in the wee hours. Somehow I managed to get my mother to take me to the record store the following day to get Hellbilly Deluxe. I loved the horror theme, but always hid the album from my father as I didn't think he'd approve of my owning it if he saw the cover. That alone was enough to have that album artwork imprint on me in some way, and the playfield art is rather reminiscent of Rob's appearance on that album, yet even more menacing now. And really, that area of playfield art is all I really notice when playing a game anyway (especially with a fast game+lighting, etc). Looks like there is plenty going on in the upper playfield to distract from it being a bit barren art-wise up there.

I am sure this has been posted somewhere already, but just in case here is a video of it.

Oh, I did get the e-mail!!! N

Still lukewarm on the layout and pf art, wish we could see gameplay like Aurich said. Cab art and translight are masterpieces. I'll give KT a break and wait a few days before responding.

The insert light graphics and the "directional trails" around them were done by me.

Alex is very old school (oil painting then scanned) and this is his first pin, so we handled the more precise elements of the PF features for him.

So stick a Wolverine or a Hulk bash toy in the middle.

We're trying... just flat ran out of time getting approvals and everything else together.

Trust me, I'd love to show the madness in my mind putting this together. We'll work it in asap.

Refund? Then take a pass now for others

Exactly! I think it is maybe asking just a bit much to fully commit after seeing a 90 second, creatively edited clip and a few static images. I am still interested in the pin after what we have been shown but if I wait to play it or even see more gameplay video, my chance to purchase the game will likely have evaporated.

Intentionally or not (and I do believe it is the latter), asking buyers to commit to a purchase after sharing such a small amount of info is what starts all of the pre-order bullshit in the first place.

To me that's one of the most remarkable things about the artwork - he's a present day master of an art media that is very hard to work with compared to today's digital age of tools and the undo button.

Yes, it's a gamble committing before gameplay however sometimes you need to take the risk to get rewarded. If you don't feel comfortable then nobody is forcing your hand and I am sure there are plenty of people on the waiting list who would gladly step in and purchase it. Just saying.

Simply stunning! Great Job guys. I have a buddy who is getting one and im very happy for him. Cant wait to play it at his house along with his amh!

I'm in!

Thanks man. I know things are nuts, and there are a million questions flying around, can I ask just one more? Because it hasn't really been clear.

Is our build number by when we send in money, or when we signed up? Meaning if we want to wait and see if you get any gameplay footage up are we "hurting" ourselves by waiting? Or is our # already set so it doesn't matter?

Congrats on reaching this milestone, I know how hard you've all been working.

Not trying to stir shit here, but that's the same line people got for Predator and Magic Girl.

Now, obviously Spooky has shown they can deliver. That's not in question here, odds are you'll get your game. But asking for $1K without at least detailed photos and a game walkthrough is a bit too much like the boutique crash of 2015. I'd really, really like to see detailed photos and a game walkthrough before committing.

Pretty killer cab art.

Seems like the playfield is missing something vital though... Are there some good gameplay vids out yet?

Positive that the original plan was to have 30 days to decide not 7.

I'll commit gameplay unseen just send me the e-mail! Pretty please

Haha yes Chuck actually sent him full size patterns of the PF to draw on. Very old school! If we're fortunate enough to work with Alex again, the procedure can be fine tuned further.

I thought that too, but I dunno. I'm personally waiting at the moment before deciding. I'd prefer a little more detail and information personally.

I don't mean to sound critical, maybe Charlie is working against a deadline I'm not aware of. Just feels like the end got rushed a little, and that doesn't translate to a rush on my end.

A week is a lot of time, I'll just be patient right now.

Regardless of what I decide the LE translite is really incredible, and the cabinet art kicks ass. That much is easy to instantly decide.

I just want spooky to stick to the 300 games and not increase...get these games done how ever long it takes and if u can be successful do more on the next title

Spooky already delivered AMH and RZ is already built. Plus he is building a brand new shop along with making the Domino's Pinball. I don't see how that is the same situation as jpop or skitb. The only gamble here is how it plays and I think there are plenty of people who are on the waiting list that would take that risk.

+1 to both of these.

Im sure if you buy this game and you dont like the game play after owning it i'm sure a low use HUO will be able to be sold to someone else quickly to get your money back as there are so many people on the waiting list that wont get one. Used AMH go for over $1000 more then new now. Only people who have to worry is us Canadians with conversion and tax at the boarder and shipping its well over 9k Canadian.
That being said Ive paid my deposit and cant wait to have it next to my Metallica!!

It's a part of pinball, you either are in or out. You might get burned or you might not. Don't get in early you possibly lose out on owning a must have pin for yourself. Choice is yours.

On wait list with money waiting

Super bummed that I didn't get the e-mail. I was in on June 19th. I must have been somewhere above the three hundred mark

I was also confused by this.

-c

I'm in. Sent my deposit today. Those on the fence can wait, I want an early number. This game will rock.

I'd say your odds are fantastic... Our new shop address is 184 Ridge Ave. in Benton, WI. We aren't hiding in a basement or a closed shop with a phone book sized NDA you have to sign to get in.

This is no different than many Stern LE's that sell out fast... it's all taking a chance. Really, if you have any hesitations... pass. My guess is in 10 days or less, it's probably all gonna be a mute point anyway.

We aren't perfect, we're doing our best to be up front and honest with everything we do.

From a value standpoint, at least you know you'll have a rare game with a sought after theme that has a great looking cabinet and translite, so the game should hold it's value regardless of game play (which is subjective anyway).

However, from a pinball playing standpoint, as Charlie has stated that RZ plays very different than the typical fan layout people are used to, it seems like a decent quality gameplay video should be shown before people are required to send in their deposit or give up their spot.

I'm a 6/17 list confirmation and I remember being thrilled in July when Charlie said they weren't at 300 yet.

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December minus 5 months = July

Charlie responded to me today to hang in there about an hour ago...yes it's difficult seeing others In but I'm going to keep the faith.

Charlie- is there any way we could see the currently available footage without all of the artificial video artifacts?

If you try to make everyone happy that will never happen on Pinside. It's your business and you should run it as you feel fit. You took a huge gamble getting into making pinball machines and don't see why asking others take a risk is so wrong.

You can click on the "5 months" and it will show you actual time/date.

I totally agree that having gamplay video would be great, but I'm buying this one for all the wrong reasons.

1. The theme is my #1 most wished for. Actually, it's the only theme I can remember ever wishing for.
2. The artwork is incredible. In pictures, the playfield is the only thing that isn't perfect, in my opinion.
3. I love the gameplay on AMH, but the rest of the package just didn't add up to a purchase for me. I'm hoping RZSSI plays as well.
4. I'm speculating that this will be much more expensive to buy after the fact.

All things considered, I've decided this is a game worth taking a risk on.

I can't remember, but is the Le just the translite and a numbered LE plaque?

Sensing the fact people are finally calming down. Starting to see some realistic posts now. Questions wanting to be answered.

Also special armor

Re: the comments about "no email yet", my email was "one of the lucky ones on the 50 LE"...
Perhaps only 50 emails went out to the first 50 LE names?

Good point. But that's one of the sucky things about buying an LE.

I'm sure you will have no problem selling 300 machines. Does it hurt to extend the deadline until after Danger does his show, to help ensure that RZ gets into the hands of buyers who enjoy it's style of play?

Happy buyers >>good reviews>>good reputation>>more business.

Backglass, armor, side rails, & powdercoat are different... here's flat honesty, we didn't show the rails because they aren't done yet!

LE's are gone. KT has spoken.

Kevin... you're on the list!!! Hang in there man, and don't stress... got ya' covered. Poor gal is still trying to eat the lunch that's been sitting on her desk for 2 hours.

I will work on a quick and not very polished game play video on Monday... post it either Monday night or Tuesday. Right now, trying to pack up some AMH's for customers.

no..im not on LE list and got the confirmation email.

That's all I was asking about. I'd love to play it in person but a video and some closeup photos would go a long way for me.

Take photos like you're selling a game in the Pinside Marketplace and want to appease the trolls!

....but where's MY email??

Well done Charlie and team Spooky. I am not on the list but wanted to congratulate you on a very nice looking game, the Cabinet and standard & LE backglass art is incredible, toys look great and like the playfield layout, look forward to seeing a game play video. Forgot love that you have gone a colour dmd / lcd - looks great and great to see that you have joined the leagues of JJP and Heighway there.

Uh ? No email ? I thought I was on the list !?