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Quoted from ViriiGuy:
As a Pinball Tech who works on these games, I heartily disagree. The liberal use of hot glue and plastic switch mounts, does not hold up well in a commercial environment. Even TNA, whichis a fairly simple game, mech wise, breaks far more often than the Sterns do. They make great games, play wise... But They themselves will tell you, they build home machines, not commercial routable tables.
I have to agree with this.
Everything has to be bolted, riveted and made super robust.
Route conditions are a good indicator of engineering problems.
Games have to be routed heavily during the sample phase. This usually shakes out most bugs.
I'm going to TPF.
Will there be a playable proto at the show?
I am already in at kingpin games.
The question is whether I buy one or 2.
Quoted from cmack750:
Although not "all" BS Edition features are fully announced this is what has been. We are talking all cosmetic stuff. Note that in either case, the playfield features will be the SAME (From SpookyCharlie in the Fang Club Thread):
So about this "Blood Suckers Edition"...
It's FUN, and it gets YOUR game some unique upgraded items that will leave you the envy of all the other monsters in your mausoleum! We want to give you something special for believing in us. The side armor special cut design and colors will be a cool combination only available on the Fang Club games. The plaque will be laser etched and placed directly in the center of your super weird apron coated in the same gross vein metal color as those one-of-a-kind side rails. There's even a few surprises we can't even talk about yet... but we think these games will be super creepy fun and collectible for years to come!
All Fang Club Members will get the chance to buy-in on our games 2 weeks before it opens to the public! You can choose a regular game or Blood Suckers Edition, but please note: ALL BLOOD SUCKERS GAMES WILL BE BUILT IN ORDER, AND BUILT FIRST!
In fact, if you buy a Blood Suckers Edition in the first 48 hours of sales launch, your game will even get another special little graveyard ornamental item AT NO EXTRA COST!
The Blood Suckers Edition game sales will close 4 weeks from the launch date, and NO MORE WILL EVER BE SOLD AFTER THAT! Really... we mean that. No games from the vault, crypt, coffin, or any other plan of resurrection of the dead.
Question: Does that mean I will get a lesser game if I DON'T take on this B.S. edition?
Answer: The standard games will have ALL THE SAME PLAYFIELD FEATURES AS THE B.S. edition (that's, Blood Suckers, folks). We don't believe in giving you a lesser game play experience in ANY of our games.
So it's just all about armour...ok.
Quoted from cmack750:
1. Edition-specific armour/colors.
2. Custom plaque.
3. Possible other "goodies", unannounced. But no additional playfield features.
4. BS Editions ALL built first, so if you want your machine quickly, BS Edition is the way to go, and those will be built in order too.
I won't even pretend to know the line/build capacity for the game....it may overlap ACNC at first for the last few of those and if so, that may slow it down to start...plus just the ramp up time for a new machine.
As an ACNC owner, what I CAN say is that it took a while for machines to really get rolling. Once they did, it seems that they were cranking out about 50/month. Take that for what it's worth....just my experience.
Maybe a toy.
Get a line pass to not wait 18 to 24 months
Might be worth it to not have to wait as long.
First to pay, first to play.
Quoted from pinmister:
Not sure why people need to join a club and go in blind? You have to pay $100 to join a club, that put's you on a list ahead of non-club members to purchase a game without even seeing game play? What if it is not up to a particular persons standards? Do they get a refund on the club membership? Are there any guarantees? Do you get a T-shirt with colored sleeves? Do you get a sticker? So many questions on this club process?[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]
Try shopping at costco...
I just want the game to have ramps/wireforms that work, and maybe a mini playfield ...
I do like that in a game.
I'm not in any hurry to get this game.
I have to sell something just to get in my gameroom lol.
Quoted from ausretrogamer:
Hey spookycharlie, thank you for the clarification post re: Fang Club members. Apologies to go around in circles on this (my brain is in 8-bit mode), is this true for international Fang Club members too? ie: we purchase direct from you guys or do we go via our local distributor/contacts (ie: Spooky Pinball Australia)? Thank you.
Join the fang club.
Get on a distributors' list.
Quoted from o-din:
With my property tax of $1000 a year, I think I can manage it. After all, a house is just a luxury item.
In Nevada a house is also a luxury item.
As well as power, water, internet, food, clothing etc...
And if course driving.
Cars have a priviledge tax applied to the annual registration on top of the registration.
Because, of course it's a priviledge to be driven to the hospital, especially if you live outside of town...
Oh wait! Everywhere in Nevada is out of town...
Quoted from donkadelic:
I foresee a lot of people trading early spots with later spots when the time comes since its gonna be really hard to nail down your place in line and nobodys gonna wanna wait to order.
I waited so long for my ECLEWOZ, I actually forgot about it, I bought it day 1.
When Jen called, I was shocked and tickled at the same time.
I thought I had lost my money on a foolish venture lol.
So, I'm in no hurry at all.
I just hope the game is better than all the other spooky games.
I haven't felt compelled to buy any of them until now.
Quoted from sataneatscheese:
Okay... as there are a lot of people on here that have never seen, or heard of Rick and Morty... what is the one episode you would use to introduce them to the show for an overview. Surely not the pilot. I'd vote pickle rick episode but what would you guys say?
Just start from episode 1.
To have the ball go into the portal/house and instantly appear elsewhere on the playfield is a major achiement.
It has me very intrigued.
Looks like great fun!
Quoted from Fytr:
I realize that this is impracticle in the real world but how awesome would it be to have a Mr. Meeseeks mode where every 10s or whatever the game adds another ball into play (up to say 12 balls) and you have to make 2 shots in order to end the mode, with the additional balls being added making that harder and harder as time goes on. Flood the pf in balls, totally unmanagable, LCD has a Meeseeks for each ball. Hillarity!
Maybe an interactive video and playfield mode for the meeseeks.
Hit a target to add/subtract.
You would have to split your attention between the screen and playfield.
I think/hope this game will be its own special episode and specific story line of the series instead of a collection of unrelated, but fun events.
Yeah im talking quest based perhaps.
One could even refer back to it in a series flashback. It would be way cool to see it referenced in the show.
I really liked what they did with the doctor who game. Time Streams is its own story by itself.
My game is number is
Confirmed by kingpin games.
I went with a distro specifically to avoid the feeding frenzy and get a relatively low game number.
Kingpin delivered big-time!
Thank you so much Chris .
If you want a game, contact all of the disto's.
This early in the process there will be people dropping out.
Quoted from tbutler6:
Anyone else thing mirror blades are the way to go on this game with the darker spacey art on the back end? Leaning that way, but the artblades were absolutely the way to go on ACNC IMO
The proto shows art blades.
I wonder if they will have a couple of choices to choose from.
Maybe something slightly brighter.
Quoted from jeffspinballpalace:
I read somewhere that the second half episodes of season 5 would end the current contract and the 70 episode contract would apply thereafter. At 10 episodes per season and with no time off, this run will unfold thru 2027.
Im waiting for the episode where rick turns himself in a pinball for the pinball dimension.
I dont think anyone should buy a spot for this game yet. Its very early.
There will be spots available if you didnt make the feeding frenzy on day one.
Get on all the distributors lists for a 2nd chance.
There will be plenty of people dropping out due to regular life issues.
Quoted from KingPinGames:
I am reading through this and wondering how (if) I should even react to you statements. Are you implying that I did something wrong by allowing the customer that have helped grow my business have first access to the new game? Are you aware that this has been Spooky's model for every game after amh up until now? The only reason it was changed here was because they (spooky) had more previous customers than buildable games. For them, this was the only fair way. I suspect this is also why pinball star did it the way they did. Will I someday have to turn to the same sale style? Hopefully, but in the mean time i am still small enough to not have the volume of customers that the others do.
As for luke "even talked about it," so what? My customers EARNED the privilege of having first pick at the new game. If luck or Charlie or anyone at spooky has an issue with the way I run my business they will let me know. Fyi, I am also one of spooky's tech support people that answers emails on Christmas eve, after 10pm and even offers facetime to help walk through problems. If I was doing ANYTHING wrong would they let me help them?
Not that I need to explain this, but even after ALL of my previous customers confirmed they wanted a game, new customers started getting games in the mid 200's.
I'm sorry that you are frustrated by the lack of communication from your distributor, but that doesnt mean you should come here and try to attack spooky or myself for doing business they way we feel appropriate for our customers. On the next game you want, find a distributor that will work the way you want things done. That's the nice thing about pinball. The products are all the same no matter who you get them from, so it comes down to who you makes you feel like a priority and not a paycheck.
I believe you even reached out to me about getting a game. Had you stuck with that you would have a number (and even possibly earlier that what you will end up with). I truly do feel bad for you guys that are waiting, but I have done nothing wrong.
Im a new customer for Chris.
He does exactly as he says.
What more could you want?
OUTSTANDING service and support.
Thanks Chris for getting me a game! (In the low 300's to boot lol)
Quoted from Braindance:
Maybe I'm confused about what the butter upgrade is. I thought there was a clear coat layer put over the printing. Wouldn't that protect it more/make it more durable?
No, its layers of sweet creamery butter carefully applied in a "tasteful" manner...
Quoted from marspinball:
So BSE is just an upcharge for purple powder coat instead of grey?
What is included with the BSE?
And a toy...
Its like going on a date.
Gas to the venue, covered.
Everything else is extra lol
Its an a-la-carte style menu !
Hint, just order water. The wine is over priced...
Quoted from Yelobird:
"I'm a flipper Morty!!" Introducing our first of Many custom mods for the Amazing Spooky release. Give Morty's pickle pal the star treatment as you battle through the dimensions of the universe. Custom made on a sewer grate and hand painted to perfect detail. Simple and reversible installation. Flipper Rick the smartest flipper in the universe is ready for battle! (Note, as some only like to customize the lower flippers this kit is sold as a set of 2!)
More info and detail available via our website: We appreciate your support.
www.TheModCouplePinball.com[quoted image][quoted image]
Those look cool!
I would like them also without the pickles too.
I have a R&M coming and I dont really want to sell any of my games...
This is a serious first world problem.
The struggle is real!
Its one thing to mod your game but...
rick and morty tattoo?
Quoted from nogoodnames222:
I'm locked into a standard but was under the impression the game sold out, due to the whole "SOLD OUT" thing. Spots sitting at distributors =/= sold out in my opinion, and seems misleading. Makes zero difference to me one way or the other but I can't believe that #440 spot on ebay has been bid up $1000 over value when spots are still available (I wonder if the guys bidding on that are aware?)
Sold out does not mean you cant get a game.
It only means that they are spoken for.
There will be lots of motion in the spots during the years it will take to get the game.
People drop out, lose interest etc.
Its not a worry, it always is this way.
If you want a game, contact the distro's. they will have one for you.
Its what they do. lol
I use headphones all the time in my gameroom.
I want to hear the game!
4 or 5 games running at the same time drowns out everything.
Im buying whatever pinnovators sells.
They are the best.
Quoted from jonesjb:
I respectfully disagree. While it sounds neat, it would get old and slow the game down. It’d also dampen the effect of having the ball disappear and teleport immediately to the bottom left flipper.
I agree, but it could have been used to randomize the modes instead of points.
Just thinking lol.
Pickle Rick pringles not available until february....So sad....I really want them NOW lol.
Ill have to get a case and eat them while opening my talking Baby yoda in may....
I dont need a video.
I dont need Fang Club merch (although it looks nice...)
I dont need my game right now or immediately...
What I need is to move a game out of my gameroom in order to set it up.
Otherwise it sits in its box.
The rubber bumper pad at the end of the plastic ramp should probably be made of steel.
This game is going to get a lot of plays.
Williams made them steel for a good reason, 50,000 plays blows the ends of the ramps out.
thenotrashcougar are there any off the shelf ramp stops that can be modified/bent/carved to fit this ramp?
Maybe Terry pinballlife has something in stock that can be used?
The only thing that I see as a problem, is where to put the "lighted pringles can mod", on the game.
This from JJP and Stern:
Spooky, not so much...
Quoted from Capn12:
Boy....somebody (me) feels REALLY stupid for not pulling the trigger on sale day. Joined FANG before the R&M info came out, then thought "I can get one later, if I like it."
Whoops, what an idiot....
Feels real bad, man....
Contact all of the distros.
Im confident there are a few still available.
Some cool mods you can make.
Or buy a sauce tub, empty it and add a sticker:
Something you just cant live without:
In before the lock? Lol
I don't think they have officially shipped a game...yet .
Purge video mode upon completion of the purge game mode.
colorful, exciting and gory!
Or something with cats...
BS edition, check.
Shaker motor, check.
Art blades, check.
Bill validator door, check. (to add Pinnovators headphone jack later)
Honestly I like the look of the black door better than the purple.
I also don't feel that a clearcoated cabinet is what I need.....
Anything I'm missing?
Quoted from jonesjb:
I wondered if the spinner was misaligned... So I went and rewatched the video and I think this may not be the case, it might be something else: I'm sharing the below in hopes that it may be some help:
There appeared to be:
-12 legitimate shots to the upper inner loop
-2 were slightly not accurate and actually hit a rubber killing the shot
-2 were too weak and wouldn't have made it
There were 8 clean shots:
-0 hit the spinner and lost momentum from doing so
-3 shots were successful
-And here's the interesting one... 5 shots hit the wall at it's vertical portion, absorbing the momentum before it could be transferred to vertical trajectory, making the orbit shot fail.
What does this mean? Around 40% of clean shots to the orbit made it around successfully (limited sample obviously). It looks like when the shot goes higher in the entrance it hits the wall and is unsuccessful, when it goes lower, momentum is retained, transferred upwards and the shot is successful. I don't know, maybe adding more curve to the top portion of the wall could help?
You can see what I'm talking about here:
I'm in on one of these and am want this to be a huge success, sharing in the spirit of hoping this info may be of use.
I didnt buy MB because it was too easy and i would be bored.
In my opinion a game must have a certain fun, frustration level.
The shots should look easy but be challenging.
And be lightning fast at times yet controllable.
I think the game looks like all of that was accomplished.
Im a expert at hitting post bumpers.
No matter how narrow or hidden.
2.5" or 3" wide gaping ramp entrances elude me.
Hitting post bumpers is my super power.
Im a pinball shortstop.
Its all about the infield, lighting fast drains, and 15 second ball times...
That's my jam.
Quoted from SlightlySnaked:
That's the one.
Well I don't think I'm an idiot. And a year from now should be interesting to see what it's going for. I intend on holding onto mine for awhile.
This, more or less. I missed the presale, really want one, and the sooner the better.
I don't think youre an idiot either.
NIB R&M might go for 12k or more a year from now from the right buyer.
Theres a global demand.
Hint: convert it to a BS edition.
You absolutely can do this.
Its not even built yet.
Quoted from xfassa:
Just picked up my alternate topper.[quoted image]
I wish they would sell them here in reno nv.
I need a case for my upcoming unboxing party!
I need them to go with my Rick and Morty beer.
Rick and Morty beer
Departed Soles Brewing Company in Jersey City, NJ.
Getting drunk at the outback steakhouse bar not thinking about pinball right now...
Quoted from SpookyCharlie:
Taken after today's steam... this was more work than I can describe. Super proud of our team!
Much more goodness to come very soon... games are moving, thanks to everyone who believes in Spooky.[quoted image]
Will there be factory mylar on the pop bumper areas and the drop areas?
I hate ripping apart a brand new game to add it.
Quoted from flecom:
dunno, maybe locations that previously had spooky machines? I hope I can still make money on this machine by the time I get it in ~7 months if not it will definitely by my only spooky machine
because they don't artificially limit them so everyone that wants one can buy one, not this artificial scarcity nonsense... also most of my sterns are definitely not worth half of what I paid for them... some have even gone up in value... ex. Tron... and even if it was I would not care since it's paid for itself several times over
also I love how everyone in this thread that doesn't fawn over spooky and participate in the circle jerk is downvoted to infinity, pinside is getting worse than reddit
There are plenty low numbers available at a premium if you think uou will lose out on the action.
Might be a good investment for you.
Quoted from 27dnast:
Played RM today. Fun game... hope to have one in my collection at some point... a few geometry concerns.
For those of you chomping at the bit and considering paying a flipper’s premium to get a spot. I advise you to wait and play the game before you give someone a heap of cash to buy out their down payment.
I could be wrong, and no disrespect to anyone... But after playing, I think the flippers’ market is going to fall apart in a month or two. For several reasons, that’s my gut call.
Overall, nice work by Scott D. I’ve loved owning my TNA, and can see how RM could be solid in a home environment where the game can be tuned up and dialed in.
Its ok though, I seem to like some challenge in a home game.
Quoted from Coindork:
Try putting half a drop of super lube on the ends of a spinner and see what happens.
After you try this, you will do it to every game you own that has a spinner.[quoted image]
that stuff is magical! I use it all over the place. Just a tiny drop is all it takes.
My TH spinner goes to erebor on one hit lol.
Quoted from razorsedge:
Dirty shooter rod! ... spreading Grime and Crap onto Players hands ....
No lubricant on shooter rod is exactly the same concept as why you don't do it with coils and coil sleeves. Then some.
Rods .... They become gummy and sticky in no time with wet lubricants, coil or no coil.
Dry lube on shooter rods.
Something like tri-lube or a dry silicone/ptfe spray.
Works good won't gum up.
Quoted from estrader:
Spooky also said if you purchased prior games you would get priority on their new games. Spooky went back on their word already.
You should read what you wrote, its stupid.
Since 100% of game sales were fang club members, 100% of these game sales get priority lol.
No one would have ever thought that it would sell out that fast. (i kinda did..#317 here!)
Their word is true. (C'mon August/September!!!!)
I am personally not concerned about any tweaks or adjustments to be made on this game.
As you might have seen on my houdidni tweaks and adjustments experience, there are always ways to make a game work perfectly.
This game looks about par for the course on adjustments, nothing really serious.
I do however want mostly completed code with 10 or more dimensions.
Im getting fed up with waiting 2 or 3 years for meaningful code updates.
So the jury is still out as to whether or not I actually open the box and play this game or route it or sell it.
I really looked forward to playing it at TPF, but thats not happening.
There are no examples near me to play before I receive my game, finding a game to preview would really help out.
Quoted from BMore-Pinball:
*** Not my picture nor comments, posted in the R&M Facebook Group *****
"Post rubbers very thin and don’t last long at all"[quoted image]
Spooky should change over to urethane post sleeves or make it an option.
I put silicone in my Diner and it didnt last 500 games, total waste of time
Im using Cliffy sleeves on all my games now.
They are the best.
Quoted from razorsedge:
I think the superband posts are a tad thinner. Same material...
I compared most of the offerings side by side when doing my Super high end restore of my Doctor Who.
The cliffy post sleeves won hands down.
The game plays like a dream and the posts are reactive and "just right".
Quoted from o-din:
It's an improvement for now. Gotta see how many games we can play to see how reliable it stays. The original on No Fear, many were removed when the flipper buttons started getting sticky. However, Rick and Morty has more sprung return pressure being they are metal leafs and not a plastic opto interupter.
What it does do is give the leafs more travel, so the switches can close with a little more pressure.
Why not just use a fender washer for durability, Its attached to a plastic button so no ground path?
Quoted from DanQverymuch:
This is a silly thing for people to keep saying. Not clever, or even true.
There was no "limit" to the standards, no "limiting" going on besides the 750 for both models, thus it was not a "limited edition."
The BSE was the overwhelming choice because it is way cooler. A few dozen took the inferior standard edition, maybe to save money, or they just preferred black, or had some prejudice against purple, or perhaps planned to do their own powder coating with some other color (hell, if green was a factory choice, I'd have ordered that).
But implying that the standard is somehow better due to rarity is inane, even if done tongue-in-cheek. Enough already.
Rarity is meaningless without demand!
Now, if you wanted to be funny, you could point out the irony in the fact that the BSE is the standard, numbers-wise, and the Standard is, uh, sub-standard maybe?
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