Quoted from Rarehero:So does Family Guy & Metallica. Has there ever been an adult game without family settings?
Dwight tried with Ghostbusters but had to add it after release due to the Puritan outcry.
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Quoted from Rarehero:GB isn’t an adult title. What was considered offensive about it? Aside from Trudeau & the horrible design? Was there a setting for that?
GB (resized).pngQuoted from floyd1977:Yeah, I got that part. I just don't know what Blood Sucker's Edition means. Is this a Spooky thing they do for all their games that includes some bling or what?
Blood Sucker edition is Spooky's version of a Limited Edition it seems. The question is how many Blood Sucker Editions will be made. It has to be less than the number of "Fang Club" members. If there are 100 Blood Sucker editions and 500 Fang Club Members, would the first 100 Fang Club members get a shot at the BS edition?
Quoted from pinballinreno:Ok, so:
Colored armour
Little plaque
Maybe a toy.
Get a line pass to not wait 18 to 24 months
Might be worth it to not have to wait as long.
First to pay, first to play.
So, how much? $6500 base model, $7500 BS edition?
Quoted from Nevus:1,251 posts by 344 Pinsiders so far in this thread.
Look at past game production and sales compared to release hype.
I can’t predict the future, but I am capable of inference.
I’m super happy for Spooky Pinball and I’m not worried about being able to get one of these games.
I was just going to point this out. The FOMO is at an all time high right now, but there will be plenty of games to go around. Not limiting the number of games would be a mistake IMO for a few reasons, most mentioned by Charlie already.
Quoted from screaminr:Spooky have the theme the clips and the callouts covered . I really hope the Playfield and code live up to people's expectations but with Scott and Bowen on-the-job I think they're more than halfway there . I hope they pile on the humour , I want to be insulted by Rick when I fail and get a backhanded compliment when I do something good . The humour of this game is what could make it really great .
I agree it is about the humor. And please don't water the edgyness down, be true to the show.
Quoted from usandthem:Oh man. I've rarely seen such high expectations for a game. And we know what that usually leads to. But, this isn't a Stern, so maybe it will actually live up to the hype.
It is impossible for any game to live up to all the hype. First week of reveal most everyone will be excited. Then some folks will nitpick the hell out of it. It's really how every release goes. The best thing that can happen is for Spooky to get games out quickly. ACNC type waiting won't help. I have a feeling they will ship MUCH quicker this time along.
Quoted from Frax:aside from I wish there was more being built so I could get one later on at a reasonable price
All Soooky games have been available used for a reasonable price. Not sure what your point is.
Quoted from razorsedge:Why shouldn't everybody pay the same?
Nobody is better than anyone else.
Because we are not socialist.
Quoted from razorsedge:By this logic clearly Socialist within US, judging by the membership being averaged across the US ... $45 ....
But it is somehow not okay to do that globally? ... when as you say an insignificant quantity means it could have been 50 for everyone so that other parts of the world don't need to pay more than double, which is blown out of proportion anyway, as already pointed out.
When you finally work out the value of kangaroo feathers we will charge tripple for you to import them, okay?
Pmsl
Bloody seppos
First class postage USPS is pretty standard across the country. Priority Mail is even more standard.
Quoted from Mitch:Hate to see how much he crys when he has to pay shipping on the actual game ( spoiler it will cost alot more then people in the states pay to ship it.)
He will simply ask for all the US buyers to help his shipping costs.
Quoted from pinballwil:Looks like a streetlevel game like tna.
I do like the layout.
Hope there is a ramp.
How can you say you like the layout?
So, if I am a Fang Club member, can I order a standard edition in the two week early order window, or is the only option the BS editions during that timeframe?
Quoted from Chitownpinball:BS or die bruh!
But I don't wannnna die Rick! I am guessing the BS Edition is $525 more than the standard, hence the $1,525 deposit for it.
Guess: $6500 standard / $7025 BS edition. + $1k butter option. Wouldn't be surprised to see these +500 however.
Quoted from o-din:It is what it is. Some states have no sales tax and crazy high property taxes. My property tax is super low relatively speaking. Nobody wants to pay any taxes, but somehow they gotta pay to keep things running. And keep all those fancy suits up in Sacramento living high on the hog.
Love you O-man, but you know the only reason your taxes are low is because you are old and have lived in the same place forever. Grandfathered rule. CA has super high property taxes in most situations.
Quoted from ausretrogamer:We’ve now gone to taxes. We all know the certainties in life, unfortunately taxes are one of them. Now, back to our regular Rick & Morty schedule
We’ve exhausted the ordering process, playfield underside, and the Fang Club. Nothing left except taxes. It’s time for a reveal.
Quoted from rai:I’m struggling to find an example where a game sold out Instantly.
My first recollection was Metallica LE where there was confusion with people ordering from multiple dealers or people getting an order revoked?
TWD where the premium was not announced until later so people were fearful there might not be a premium. But it was super probable there would be a premium.
GB LE sold out very quick if I’m not mistaken.
GB LE was a day 1 (same day) sell out.
Rob Zombie LE same day
Batman 66 SLE was same day
Batman 66 LE - not sure, but it was fast. more like 48 hours?
Elvira SE - same day
Quoted from Shapeshifter:None of those were as high as 750.
Max of those above was GBLE ( 500 ).
Rest were much lower.
750 in the pinball world for any limited edition is a high number.
The first 400 units will sell very fast. Maybe day 1. I don't think all 750 will sell day 1 with deposits paid. 400 people in this thread. Not all of them are buyers.
Quoted from floyd1977:Yeah, but it makes a difference if there's a possibility of not getting a game at all. In the case of Stern, unlimited pros and premiums are available, and the premium is identical to the LE in terms of game play.
If I knew Spooky was making a limited edition run (numbered, different trim, backglass, whatever) and also a run limited only by demand, it would be a much different situation.
I agree. Open ended runs don't create much sense of urgency with the customer, other than the gotta have it now types, and there are plenty of those in pinball. But only a very small group would even be able to have this game in the first 60 days due to production volumes. So locking as many early orders in is important with the long lead times are all the shiny pinball machines that will be coming out between number 1 and number 750 18 months from now. Probably the smartest way Spooky can set this up given the limitations on production.
Quoted from rai:Not sure how many Pirates were ever made. Don’t think all the LEs or CEs were used.
Total Pirates run was ~1k units across all variants.
Quoted from ralphcousman:GB was a special case where they stopped production due to the legalities around the designer i thought....
No. That happened way after the game release. Stern sold a ton of GB games overall. The entire 500 GB LE game run were made and shipped in a two week timeframe shortly after release.
Quoted from benheck:I predict day one sellout for R&M
That would only be possible with 750+ Fang Club members. Is the ordering process automated? Asking KT to send out 750 emails?
Quoted from Pensfan112:spookycharlie Could you confirm something for me. Starting tomorrow you can put a deposit down with the final payment be required once the games is built correct? Also is the 18 month build time starting tomorrow so if I order it tomorrow i'll have it 18 months? Thanks!
The build date for your game depends on when you order the game. Could be as early as ~30-60 days for number 1 to 18 months for number 750.
Quoted from ThePinballCo-op:Maybe somebody mentioned this, but is the ramp isn't tied down to the playfield? Does it look like it lifts up?
Nope. Normal ramp. Can see the plastic part flush with the playfield on the left.
Quoted from bent98:Do they charge you a fee for credit card ?
Built $25 fee into the deposit price? $1525
What does the BS edition get besides the powder coating? In the key post, Charlie mentioned some other surprises he couldn’t talk about yet before reveal.
Quoted from TheNoTrashCougar:The BSE edition is just cosmetic, but the pictures of the purple do not do it justice. It looks way better in real life. Everything else is exactly the same, which the team and I would have no other way.
This is very important.
--Scott
Thanks Scott. When I saw the photos of the BS edition, I wasn’t impressed with the purple. So much so that I’d just rather wait for a standard. Not sure.
I am not able to add to my cart - It says I must be a Fang Club member. But I am and have logged in. Lame.
Something was wrong with my Fang Club membership and I couldn't add the game to my cart. Spooky had to fix something on the back end, and it all got sorted out.
Quoted from RandomGuyOffCL:No limit and this wouldn’t be happening right now.
People would act normal and wait
Absolutely correct.
I wouldn't take your order number as any gospel. We know that distributers account for 50% of the allocation, and they need to be woven into this build queue somehow.
Anyone claiming that a R&M fan that isn't a pinball person is spending $7 - $8k on a pinball machine is just wrong. Maybe one or two super rich guys, but not many orders from that base.
Quoted from tbutler6:Suprised with all this talk, Spooky isnt one here...Wonder if they are busy? Haha!
Scroll up.
Quoted from nogoodnames222:This doesn't make sense, right? There was no allotment of BSE's, so they should've sold out at the same time as the standards. Unless BSE's can still be purchased, and will push the standard-buyers out of their place in line (I'm concerned).
BSEs would ALWAYS push standards out since they are made first.
Quoted from epthegeek:You can actually dial the filtering up and down; because why not. You could set it for 10% unfiltered, and every time it says a thing, you have a 1 in 10 shot of it being uncensored.
I love this idea! Well done Eric.
Quoted from CoolCatPinball:So, where can one go about pre ordering one of these ??
EDIT - Charlie provided the URL.
Quoted from CoolCatPinball:Seriously?! 1.5 to 2 years until shipping starts???
No. If you get number 750 it could be 18 months. Shipping starts next month I think.
Quoted from CoolCatPinball:I'd love to pre order one, but man, the wait would kill me.
You would probably be number 560 since only BS editions are left. Assuming 25% Standards - Which looks like the trend. So that would be 14-15 months.
750 games is a lot. There will be plenty of secondary market opportunities to buy games and spots for new games. I don't think there will be many shenanigans. Maybe the first 30 days of availability, but once games are flowing steady not so much.
Quoted from FalconPunch:Themes that didn't hit their peak pre-1970 sell pretty well in small quantities.
I think all of them can learn a lesson from Spooky on announce / launch / ordering cadence. But in order to pull this off, you need a theme that gets people excited. Also, Scott Danesi coming off TNA was a huge bonus. I wouldn't have been in without Scott being on board.
Quoted from o-din:I seriously doubt Rick and Morty was on any of the other companies radar. And many in charge of those companies may have never even heard of it before now.
It's also very hard for people to change once they are set in their ways. There is still a huge market for them and their themes anyway.
Maybe form some of the manufactures, but definitely not all. AP themes are have not been strong.
Quoted from jeffspinballpalace:Would be good to know some numbers before we start celebrating.
# Pinsiders who claim this in their collection 18 months from now / 750 = ? If Pinside amounts to 150 to 200 or 20-25%, that sounds legit.
# games sold in US / nonUS = ? I’d say 500/250 or 2/1, this would explain a lot. Only way this sold so well and so fast was there had to be a number of foreign buyers. This would be new for Spooky who hasn’t sold many worldwide. Just a guess.
Pretty sure quite a few TNA went to Australia.
Scott + this theme = instant sellout.
Of course all the other great folks at Spooky working their tails off didn’t hurt.
Quoted from libtech:Im excited to see what bowen comes up with too, Is this the first machine he has coded for? Probably has some cool ideas hes had in the back of his brain for a long time..
Bowen doesn’t code, but he helps manage the rule design. His first game was ACNC working with a different coder. Is this Eric P’s first game coding at Spooky?
Quoted from northerndude:I’m not even sure there should’ve separate versions of these in the pin directory? Since they are exact same with gameplay and options (does armour and such warrant a different model)??
I’m in on BSE, but don’t know if it’s really a different pin
Pinside now has variant options for all models, even Premium / LE from Stern, which has the same gameplay. There is one game, but the alternative versions show up. I think it is a good thing, allows to more easily distinguish when searching for a game to buy or sell.
Screen Shot 2019-12-17 at 10.38.20 AM (resized).pngQuoted from razorsedge:But it is not a different model or variant. It's the "head of the queue" option, that is tied to the candy armor package. Oh and a Blood Sucker Plate that probably 80% of all games have... yeah okay maybe Lol ... but will one get a different top 100 place than the other??
Yeah so really the "Standard Club" is actually more like the "LE Club"
No, they are linked in the top 100.
Quoted from rai:Sorry if I missed it but who are you, position at Spooky?
Is this Eric?
Quoted from epthegeek:Not aiming at co-op for launch. Given that it's a mode based game, it didn't seem as important to prioritize. Always a possibility later though.
Co-op makes a TON is sense for a game like TNA, but maybe not as much sense for this game. Not saying there won't be a cool idea to incorporate team play down the road, but I agree that the focus should be on the core rules and gameplay at this point, not forcing a feature in because it was awesome in another game.
Quoted from rotordave:Doesn’t work for 750 items. Unless you want a $150 per each plastic spaceship.
rd
Or charge $750 for a topper.
So I was at the local mall Christmas shopping and noticed this cool store called Box Lunch. I think it may be owned by Hot Topic. They had a whole Rick and Morty display with all sorts of stuff. A lot of pet clothing and toys strangely.
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Did anyone here receive an automated email with an invoice attached today rather than the Squirrel / KT email? I paid on Monday morning like everyone.
Quoted from Mr_Frog:Well I'm 670 and I have a BSE, so if my math is right at least 90% are BSEs.
Do you win the prize for the highest number BSE?
Quoted from rai:I can’t figure how it’ll lock 2 on each side. Only 2 drop targets correct?
There is an "up post" behind the turnaround area that can keep balls on one side or the other.
Quoted from Spiderpin:How many have added game to collection or should it be added to wishlist when game is delivered?
To each their own, but I don’t add a game to my collection until I have paid for and took delivery of it.
Quoted from KingPinGames:If ANY distributor is asking you to pay more than the initial payment required by spooky, please let spooky know... and then find a better distributor!
here is the list of the Authorized Spooky distributors (to the best of my knowledge). If you don't see your's on there, then ask Spooky to confirm
Pinball Star (PA)
KingPin Games (WI)
Nitro (WA)
Lock When Lit (MO)
there are obviously international distributors too, but i am not as familiar with them.
fyi, initial payments required by Spooky are
Blood Sucker Edition $1525
Standard Edition $1000
Is Great American Pinball (GAP) a distributor? They are claiming to be on Facebook.
I don’t think it is unreasonable for the pinball star folks to have an order number by now. He has had a week to organize 100 spots with the aid of PayPal time stamping, understanding that for various reasons certain Spooky repeat buyers, etc may have priority. Modern tools like MS excel are very fast and good.
Quoted from Pinzap:Sorry in advance for the repost from another thread... but some people just don’t get it and maybe there are more eyes on this thread.
——
There was once a businessman who was passing through a small town in southern Wisconsin.
When he stopped for lunch at a local diner, he ran into a pinball manufacturer who was eating lunch with some friends, family and employees.
The businessman saw how happy everyone was at the table and asked the pinball manufacturer how his business was doing?
The pinball manufacturer replied, “Really good... we made 10 pinball machines this week.”
“That’s awesome... but I’ve heard that some companies can build 10 in an hour!”, the businessman exclaimed.
“Maybe so, but I make enough money from these 10 each week to feed my family and keep my employees family fed as well,” the pinball guy said.
The businessman then asked, “So, what is a typical week for you like?”
The pinball manufacturer replied, “Well, I usually wake up early in the morning, work hard all day building pinball machines but leave enough time here and there... in the afternoon, evening or weekends to hang out with my kids and wife. I also frequently join my buddies in town for a drink — we play pinball, sing and dance throughout the night.”
The businessman offered a suggestion to the pinball guy.
“I have a PhD in business management. I could help you to become a more successful person. From now on, you should spend more time at work, hire more employees and try to make as many pinball machines as possible. When you have saved enough money from your profits, you could build a bigger factory and make even more pinball machines. Soon you will be able to afford to buy more licenses, expand even further, expand your company even more. By then, you will have moved out of this town and to Chicago, where you can set up headquarters to manage your other branches.”
The pinball manufacturer continues, “And after that?”
The businessman laughs heartily, “After that, you can live like a king in your own house, and when the time is right, you can go public and float your shares in the Stock Exchange, and you will be rich.”
The pinball manufacturer asks, “And after that?”
The businessman says, “After that, you can finally retire, you can move to a house in the country in southern Wisconsin, wake up early in the morning, maybe work a few hours but only doing what you love, then return home to play with kids, and when evening comes, you can join your buddies for a drink, play pinball, sing and dance throughout the night!”
The pinball manufacturer was puzzled, “Isn’t that what I am doing now?”
This again? Just when I thought we had moved on from the folks whining about the production capacity....people here get it.
Quoted from razorsedge:I don't think you know do you.
It absolutely is... money... and Greed.
Your post confirms alot.
Sorry, as you were.
Is this coming from the guy who wanted the USA buyers to subsidize his international Fang Club shipping fees? That would be a better description of greed.
Quoted from razorsedge:Is this coming from the guy calling Spooky Dumb just because they choose not to "capitalise"?
Nope. Never did. Just stop with your narrative. It’s not interesting.
Quoted from razorsedge:Stop whinging that this Limited Run makes Spooky Dumb.
What would you know about running a boutique pinball company?
I don’t know your deal, and I think you have the wrong person. I have never said the limited run was wrong. Quite the opposite actually. Move along.
Quoted from gliebig:Did he say if he had any other blocks besides 51-59?
He has said he has 100 games. So probably spread across the entire run 10 blocks of 10 I would imagine. Just a guess.
Quoted from CKrueger:Agreed, it’s table stakes for me these days. Seeing it first on JJP tables with some very nice light shows on Hobbit, and then done REALLY well on TNA, a game would have to be incredible for me to buy without RGB lighting.
It is all about the implementation also. With great RGB power comes great responsibility. Don't make it into a competition on how many skittles you can cram on a playfield. We don't need to worry though because Scott obviously gets it.
Quoted from Zablon:You sir, are the problem with the world today. In case you haven't watched the show, there's quite a bit of...not quite so PC humor. Judging by what you've written here though, you just live in constant fear. I'm sorry for whatever happened in your life that gave you such a negative outlook.
Well, his initials are “PC”
91693765-3169-4FB0-A011-921FAB7F35C9 (resized).jpegQuoted from Mr68:I hope not. I was told the BS machines were first in line and I order it based on the advancement my extra money would purchase.
Correct! If spooky did that they would need to allow all BSE buyers to downgrade since a huge number of BS orders were because they would be built first. No way they do this.
Quoted from jeffspinballpalace:I am confused now. Didn’t Spooky mention that they were no longer going to build blood sucker editions first?
No.
Quoted from RichieWrench:Yeah -- Your right - It would take like a miracle to get #12.
We get it. Your a front of the line guy. Now you are just being mean to all the PinballStar customers 
Quoted from Calfdemon:Ugh... and here I was wanting a 700+ BSE (not kidding either). My problem of no room for this pinball machine will rear its ugly head sooner than I had hoped.
I’m sure someone here will happily trade spots with you.
Quoted from dnapac:If the garage floor is plexi...it makes one wonder about a projected image...otherwise they could save money and make it not plexi, just no plexi. What does Spooky have planned?!?
I would NOT plan any mods until you see how everything works together including the full RGB light show.
Quoted from f3honda4me:Don’t even need a load balancer for this little traffic. Problem really is out of spookys control I believe, as they use a 3rd party for their web shop.
All major web hosting services offer ways to bump up capacity on demand. Spooky will hopefully do it next time. Worth the extra few bucks for a better customer experience.
Quoted from davisjl1979:With cloud systems it actually is that easy . You don’t even have to manage servers anymore if you don’t want to.
This is absolutely correct.
Quoted from JustEverett:Add butter to your options....should move you up in the line.
That’s no longer a thing like previous games. Butter doesn’t bump it up.
Quoted from JustEverett:After checking back on the ACNC thread, I received my game (#286) about the same time as the standards in the 170-180 range. So it did move me (and a few others I know of in that range of builds) up in the production process. That said, it doesn't mean it will work out the same with RM. There are so many variables, it's impossible to say.
Spooky has come out and said that butter won't move you up like it did on TNA and ACNC. I am sure someone here has the quote.
FYI - The Scott Danesi interview starts at 59:10.
Use your podcast app on your device or go to:
https://www.spookypinball.com/podcast/spooky-pinball-podcast-show-118/
You are welcome.
Quoted from toyotaboy:Thank you, thought I was the only one. My wife thinks his speaking is very fake and can't stand it, so i just fast forward.
Agree. Very painful to listen to.
Quoted from Whysnow:Memory leak issue is a code/proc thing and they have beefed up CPU to help deal with that. In my experience, It only happens when you leave your game on for days at a time. Just power off the game once in a while. Problem solved.
Memory leaks are not a minor issue. I asked some folks in the ACNC club thread and it seems to be worse than you are saying, as one user was reporting it resetting every 2-3 games. My main concern from reading the owners on there is that the game hasn’t received a code update in many months and the “fix” was to put an auto power cycle in the code to prevent resets mid game. Is David Fausma still working for Spooky? I would expect such a critical issue to get worked much quicker. Is it a PROC operating system issue (Jimmy)? Maybe they just still haven’t figured it out yet but that’s a bit concerning to me.
Quoted from TheNoTrashCougar:Just a clarification on this. The memory leak is not a Multimorphic P3-ROC issue. It is a software issue on the PC. This issue is being worked on for ACNC as we speak (I have seen the new code) and this has been proactively addressed for R&M and will not be an issue there. The reason we put a larger computer in it was to handle the vast amounts of HD video that are going in this thing. We wanted more RAM, more CPU, and a better video processor. The PC that we are using is also made from off the shelf parts, which I am a huge advocate of.
--Scott
Thank you for the detail Scott! That makes a LOT more sense. Throwing a larger PC at something isn't how you fix a memory leak, so that sounded strange to me. Much appreciated you chiming in on this thread.
Quoted from screaminr:For $45 you have to get the knocker . You can disconnect it if you want but at least you know it's there . Nothing better than when the knocker scares the crap out of someone not expecting it . Imo a real pinball machine has a knocker .
I agree. Scott designed a knocker for Stern Spike games that Pinball Life sells. I put in in my Star Wars Premium and its fantastic and LOUD.
When you get the "Bill Acceptor Coin Door" option from Spooky, what voltage is wired to the door for the DBA?
This thread has it all. Pinsiders that have some strange anal insertion trigger with no sense of humor. Knocker haters and lovers. Can’t wait to see the next blow up.
Quoted from Shapeshifter:Guessing same as TNA.
Would be interesting to see how many people would pay for the quiet version as an optional extra? Probably $100 extra?
Makes sense not to include quiet version in BOM, but as an optional extra it would be popular I think.
PinMonk sells a replacement quiet Stern fan for much cheaper. Wonder if they use the same type of power supply?
Quoted from PinMonk:Or at the very least, Spooky could offer an upsell buyers to a different meanwell power supply that has a thermal switch to turn the fan on and off like Spike meanwells do. Meanwell has them, just not on the one Spooky's using for some reason. The main reason Spooky is probably using the 600W power supply they are is cost. All the 600w ones with thermal switches for the fan were a little to a lot more dough.
For me it’s a lot of analysis for a little fan noise. My basement is an arcade, not a library. I’ve never been bothered by any of the Spike fans.
When I turn on my Daytona USA 2, now THATS a fan!!
Quoted from tarzxvf:How is 545 of 750 90%+ exactly? Am I really bad at math?
The distributors had pre assigned numbers. Those held true and they all had a mix of BSE vs Standards. Standards are built last. So a 535 distro standard is probably built in the 700 build order range. Distro standard numbers are probably lower than Spooky build numbers but in reality they are all around the same.
Quoted from Zablon:I just want to know if it is going to ship with the projector.
Yes but Lonnie Danesi is still working on the code.
Quoted from Pinball-Obsessed:I hope Spooky machine is better quality.
What would you do if your R&M machine arrived with the lock cam missing from the coin door?
Quoted from Pinball-Obsessed:kermit24
Whine about it on pin side?
Maybe. If you were another owner you would return your machine to Spooky. True story.
Quoted from Pinball-Obsessed:That seems extreme
It's true and idiotic. As a joke that's why Scott posted the photo of the coin door lock and why new ACNC owners post photos of their locks when they unbox.
hawkmoonQuoted from P1nhead:I'm not sure why this quote was down-voted? It is an excellent example of how Spooky is keeping the American Dream alive. Greed is not good and Charlie gets that. He makes decisions for the company with his family, company, and employees first.
We, as customers, benefit from this business model because it is what will keep Spooky alive if tough times ever come. Scaling back production to 500 from 750 is a lot easier to manage than from 2500 to 500. Who is to say the next license or original theme will be as popular as Rick and Morty?
I admire the business model and cannot wait to get my first NIB pinball machine.
Edit: missing quote of a quote...
Hawk quoted: "We consistently build 10 games a week at this point. We very rarely ever miss that mark anymore. We have done 500 a year the last 2 years. We dont plan on breaking that system for now. We have to be very careful as a small company. All of our guys are full time and they count on that paycheck to feed their families. If we get to the point where sales consistently demand we could expand easily. However you just never know how that next title is going to go over and how the market is going to be the next year. We never want to have a day at spooky pinball where we have to walk people to the door because we dont have work for them. It's just not what any of us are about. There are more important things than big numbers."
Lots of words there. Not sure why you felt the need to copy and paste information and posts that are already out there
I'll play the game as Scott intended. Not going to redesign a game I haven't played or even seen in person.
Quoted from Cheeks:For one, I hate (like truly despise) toppers. But putting that aside, I will never again pay Spooky (although technically I paid Fawzma directly) for something that promises future game-integrated functionality. I bought the Rob Zombie apron mod a few years back because of what it was promised to evolve into. Well, that never happened. I still support Spooky when it comes to their games -- I bought TNA and have a R&M reserved. So I don't hold animosity toward the company in general. But I would never, ever buy something related to a game based on "all the cool stuff" that it will supposedly do someday. Fawzma seems like a cool dude, and he was certainly busy frying bigger fish than the RZ mod. Who knows, maybe he'll actually work on it someday before I die. But for now, none of that makes my burnt $300 feel any better.
Live and Learn!
I believe that Bowen and Eric were hired to help with deficiencies in the area you are describing. No worry with Rick and Morty from me. Regarding the RZ apron mod specifically, I think they just tried to squeeze too much out of the “pinheck” board set. Happy to see they have moved on to a more robust platform.
I am sure Jack will drive his gear up to Spooky like he did for ACNC. I'd expect Bowen and Scott to be playing on the stream. My guess is Friday, January 31. Hopefully this year he doesn't get lost in a snow storm on the way back to Chicago.
Wow. Blown away. I know I’m more inclined to add stuff to my game now based on that gesture alone. That’s how you get customers for life.
Quoted from Whysnow:The Spooky coin door option (with DBV slot) is the standard style like pictured/ you are use to.
If you plan to use a headphone jack set up, then I suggest selecting the DBV door upgrade when the time comes for your R&M.
What voltage DBA is it wired for?
Quoted from Mitch:4 post up 7937 has a link to the bill acceptors that work.
That post didn't answer the question. The Mars 2400 or 2600 "series" could either be a 12v or 110v wiring option.
Quoted from garretswinning:Am i reading this wrong or what. So if you choose the bill accepter you only get the cut out for it. If you choose to do headphones you will lose your ability to have a bill acceptor also? Please correct me if im wrong
There are multiple ways to have a headphone jack / volume control in the front of the machine. One of them is to use the spot where the bill acceptor would be. But you could only do this if you upgraded your machine to the DBA "style" coin door from Spooky. Default has no DBA slot.
Quoted from Thespiffy53:Is the game wired for a bill validator if you don’t get the door upgrade?
Very important question for anyone who is planning to route the game.
Quoted from ThePinballCo-op:The seller on eBay and the person who listed the R&M here on pinside is basically located on the same city (Dublin/Colombus).
I'm guessing that he tried to sell on ebay, the buyer didn't pay for it for some reason, and now the guy is trying to re-sell it here because of the fees and pain in the rear for selling it on ebay. He's asking for the same price that it sold for on ebay since that's the "market value".
Just a guess.
Something is smelly about it.
Quoted from DanQverymuch:Do you want spooky blowing money on better fang club swag (perhaps those stupid giant head figures?) or using it to make the game as great as possible?
Exactly. The way I look at it, the Fang club allowed Spooky to be very generous and give everyone an interactive topper!
Quoted from Fytr:For historical reference here are some key dates from the ACNC release:
Sept. 16, 2016: Initial theme announcement
March 26th, 2017: First game showing @ TPF
March 26th, 2018: Pre-orders open
July 30th, 2018: 1st Deadflip stream (buggy sw, not recorded).
Sept. 11th 2018: Factory pictures showing production games being made, first customer shot video of game setup at home.
...
Dec. 31st, 2019: Final batch of games produced?
So a loooong period of radio silence between the first showing and orders and the first gameplay stream, and even longer to first games shipped. However, Spooky was also running TNAs at the time and ramping up their production team.
With the well-oiled crew they have now I don't expect anything like these kinds of delays for R&M. However, it's always good to realize that making good pinball is hard, and takes longer than you'd think/like.
I really don't mind, I love the anticipation.
Historical reference is all this is. Nothing to do with Rick and Morty. Spooky learned a lot from this and the timing wasn’t what they wanted.
Jack will do a great job. Is this upcoming stream at Spooky? I believe he streamed ACNC with Bowen @ Spooky at one point.
Quoted from Chitownpinball:I dont have season 4 either. He may pay for a premium hulu or something. I have ads.
I know Adultswim.com is currently streaming Season 4 on the website for the month of January.
If you in the USA, Hulu does offer the option to sign in using the TV provider, so I would guess that's where is it coming from if they are seeing Season 4 on Hulu. Not sure which providers work. I know DIRECTV does not, but they have Season 4 on demand on DTV.
Quoted from rai:I have Hulu premium and it has some bleeping. Might have been a specific time or they forgot to delete the bleep.
Pretty sure he was joking.
Quoted from Chitownpinball:TV PROVIDER??? OK BOOMER. Lol...jk, but seriously who has a tv sub any more?
About 87 million households in the USA snowflake.
Quoted from scruffypinball:Does Scott, Bowen, Charlie or anyone associated with spooky have a twitch account?
Any reputable streamer within a large radius would show up at Spooky and stream the game. I wouldn't be surprised if arrangements have already been made. Streaming pinball is tricky to get looking great, especially if they are new at it. I am sure IF Spooky streams it they will use someone with experience.
I do think it is a wise move for Spooky to stream the game directly for the first stream. That way they can answer questions real time, vs a random fang club member's buddy that has a couple cameras.
Quoted from scruffypinball:I agree. I’d want them doing it on their channel so they can give that perspective. Why let a random streamer who doesn’t know shit about the game “figure it out”. If that is the case I hope they choose a streamer that ain’t Jack Danger as he gets to do all the stern stuff. Get it to a spooky fan!
Jack has driven up to Spooky to stream Rob Zombie and ACNC. He would put out a great stream with the Spooky crew. Jack did a stream of TNA prototype at Scott Danesi's house that got a TON of attention and helped propel TNA to get more attention. This is before the TNA sharpie art prototype at TPF, before the Spooky agreement to make the game. So the history is certainly there.
Quoted from epthegeek:Just so you’re not rewriting history, the debut of the ‘sharpie art prototype’ was at expo in Chicago. That’s where it caught attention; that’s where the spooky deal started. Jack did not stream it before those things happened.
A lot of momentum was gained at TPF. Never said TPF was the debut. So Charlie and Scott already had the deal before TPF? I thought they mentioned on the podcast that TPF was when things were formalized. Thanks for the clarification. Not trying to rewrite anything Eric.
Quoted from bangerjay:I think Tpf was a victory lap, expo the beginning, mgc the deal seal
First bangerjay
DeadFlip stream thong reveal at
TheNoTrashCougar 's house? Hopefully not rewriting history there.
Quoted from frankmac:At first glance I thought this was Rick and Morty.
Not sure what it is.[quoted image]
Not sure about you frankmac
Quoted from drfrightner:I agree the Rick and Morty Superbowl ad didn't hurt this game at all but didn't help either unless Spooky plans to announce another 250 games. I'll make a superbowl prediction... an announcement will happen at some point 250 more games.
What is the line on that? 2 1/2 to 1 maybe?
This is one Dr. that isn't needed in this thread.
Quoted from stevevt:Surprised nobody posted this yet. (Did nobody post this yet?)[quoted image]
Looks like the last two digits of the score represents the number of adventures completed.
Quoted from MikeS:Maybe it's total number of balls as opposed to ball #. If you were on ball 3 and had 2 EB's along the way it would be a "05" possibly for the last two digits?
Why would this be needed? To validate a high score only needed three balls? I would think its related to an accomplishment in the game.
Quoted from algorhythms:Number of megaseeds collected?
Winner winner! Not bad for your 4th Pinside post.
Usually after a gameplay reveal there is a little bit of a let down because the reality of "it's just a pinball machine" sinks in and it doesn't measure up to exceptions that were in our minds for it. For me this absolutely isn't the case for Rick and Morty. I am more excited for this after seeing the 15 minute preview. This game is going to be a grand slam home run!!
Quoted from goingincirclez:"If the guys who designed and made this and have played more than anyone still can't make that shot, what's the problem?"
To be fair, the designer wasn't playing the game. I think Charlie will be the first to tell you that Bug, David, and himself are NOT Bowen level players. Its way too early to criticize the layout.
Time to open the club thread. I have a suspicion the first games are being picked up / delivered this week.
Quoted from slashfive:Call the club either, C-137 or Wubba lubba dub dub!
Scott already created the club. It's locked until games ship. Time to unlock it.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/aw-jeez-official-rick-and-morty-club
Quoted from Fytr:IMHO the subject material with this theme is totally unsuitable for kids, regardless of whether you remove the swearing or not. Rick's relationship with Morty and others is completely toxic. It's all in good edgy fun for adults but you need to have a level of maturity that kids simply lack to discern the layers here. Just my opinion, of course, and I'm far from a prude, but I would NOT let my kids younger than 14 or so watch this show at all.
I guess we'll have to see what the Family Mode actually presents to judge, but it's hard to imagine how the adventures can be made "safe" enough for kids will still having enough "there" to base a game on.
My impression is "family mode" is strictly related to beeping out the swearing and/or alternate callouts and does not alter the video assets in any way. I am sure epthegeek can clarify / elaborate.
Quoted from toyotaboy:and still nobody has recieved their game besides adult swim.. crazy
You sure about that?
The BSE #440 that supposedly sold a few weeks ago on eBay has been re-listed several times. Things are not as they seem. I smell a rat with this standard also.
I have #253 from Spooky direct and would be potentially interested in trading up in line depending on the offer. Shoot me a PM.
Quoted from Skyemont:Just a question. Is Jack employed by Stern?
Employee? Maybe contractor. I bet the reality is that he is a guy that loves pinball, free airfare, hotel, food to shows like CES, and pinball machines on loan in his studio to stream. A pinball influencer if you will.
Quoted from Dr-pin:Just two questions:
Why jack, bowens would be yay.
Love the custom options, but why no playfield protector option?
Who said Bowen isn't going to be there? Wouldn't be surprised to see him there.
Didn't the BSE #440 sell on eBay only to be re-listed for some reason? I take all of these with a grain of salt.
Quoted from Zablon:Really surprises me that no one ever made a Harry Potter themed pin.
It’s not because no one wanted to make it.
Quoted from o-din:I'm kinda glad it never happened.
Yet. I think it will see the light of day eventually.
Quoted from Alwaysbrokenpins:Who the hell release the product week before Christmas when one’s paying attention? There was no party to be late to. It was a 24 hour party before they were all sold out. 24 hours is hardly a party.
Did someone say party?
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Quoted from wesman:Thanks for the firm recommendation! I've had people recommend that, and never followed through. Bought that and the lubricant you recommended for shooter rods too!
So the shooter rod grease just goes where the front, longer spring goes or the entire rod?
And the other spinner lube, just a dab on the ends or directly over the contact point for the spinner?
Shooter rod grease? Sounds like someone is trolling
Quoted from Diospinball:They might bring it back in 2-3 years. Never say never.
I’ll say it. Never.
Quoted from floyd1977:Wait, are you trying to say I can't take "10 per week" or "40 per month" as gospel and pinpoint the precise minute I receive my game or make a "99 bottles of beer" type post every day with game counts? Huh...I guess that's why it's called an estimate.
Totally get it's an estimate, but it would be nice to see the next wave of owners (after 40ish) report games arriving.
Quoted from Pinballer31520:#52 Up and running at The Pinball Palace in Brunswick Ga. Anyone near by come check it out . Very well done Spooky.[quoted image]
Wish I was a bit closer. I’ll be over there someday.
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Quoted from BMore-Pinball:*** Not my picture nor comments, posted in the R&M Facebook Group *****
spookycharlie
"Post rubbers very thin and don’t last long at all"[quoted image]
I think these are the Pinball Life "perfect play" rubbers. Not 100% sure.
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