I had never heard of this, might not be to hard to implement.

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Would be nice to get an update from Joe on when to expect numbers...that’s going to kick off a whole new round of drama in this thread.

Isn't that basically how they do the quantum theater in Dialed In? and basically the basis for old arcade games and Pin2k?

Lotss of room in the garage for a really cool Pepper's Ghost effect for the swirling portal! I hope Scott is listening.

Wouldn't it be funny if Joe messed up and oversold his allotment! lolz!

Okay, not funny. I'm sure everything's fine...

I think he's waiting on hearing from his customers who originally purchased regular editions to see if they want to skip the wait and go bse. Might have a long wait.

Yes, and the hologram on Stern ghostbusters.. One of the first to use this technique was the haunted mansion ride at disney
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepper%27s_ghost

So it looks like there is essentially a plexiglass sheet midway height of the garage that the ball goes under?

Anyone that wanted a BS could have ordered one it was all spelled out in advance, now it's a problem why?

I thought he gave them a deadline that passed a week ago.

let the modders come up with it. scott and the spooky team have already cooked up a real winner

Then you figure you'd have numbers.

Perhaps the number givers are on Christmas break?

I have to say it... Spooky vs Stern. New game vs new game. Who wins Rick and Morty or Stranger Things.

First off we all have to admit Stranger Things is a much bigger license so Stern wins there. But if you're a fan of Stranger Things did Stern deliver the game you were hoping for? Did Spooky? After playing Stranger Things and just based on the videos for Rick and Morty... I think Spooky SLAYED the dragon.

I think if you're a fan of Rick and Morty you're ecstatic about the pinball game. Spooky knocked a home run and made the Rick and Morty fans overjoyed. If you're a fan of Stranger Things, you're now probably wishing Spooky had the license because Stern laid an egg. Stern likes to do this a lot... rain on someone's parade by releasing new code when another manufacturer releases their new game, or in this case a new game over the top of another new game.

They usually win... but Spooky did such a great job Stern loses big league. Congrats to Spooky you went head to head and won you're now a giant killer.

I don't understand this mentality. To be fair, it's too early to say regarding R&M as we've seen very little. I really don't see it as a vs situation either. Of the two, even though I like both properties, I think R&M makes for a potentially funner pin experience. The two licenses aren't mutually exclusive, there is overlap. Additionally, no matter how bad you might think Stranger Things pin is, they'll sell far more than 750, and they haven't even shown the whole package for the high end models. It's just a bigger company in general. Maybe I'm in the minority but I keep my expectations tempered.

I don’t think stranger things is a goose egg at all. I think it looks great and excited to get one. Just like I’m excited to get rick and morty. If it’s not for you that’s cool but pinball sales aren’t make or break based upon your opinion alone. :p

Rick and Morty has a unique layout with lots of clever flow and chaining of shots. This hasn't been made obvious yet, but you'll see. I sense a strong degree of focus, dedication and passion with Spooky; I'd prefer a company wring the maximum amount possibility from something instead of focusing on many irons in the fire.

Stern is kickings ass with how it's making the most of Jurassic Park. There was so much potential from the Goggles in Ghostbusters, the LCD in Star Wars, but were these used to its fullest? Will the Stranger Things projector and the Elvira trailer feature be used to its max potential? I hope so!

Lets be real the only reason Joe offered people the chance to upgrade is because he gets a bigger kickback for every BS sold plain and simple. He isn't doing it out of the goodness of his heart. These games went on sale Monday the 16th and he says people can switch up to the 30th. So theoretically Standard owners got 2 weeks to decide if they wanted to switch. I don't think holding everyone up for people that knew way ahead of time the difference between the 2 and paid for a standard is right but hey the almighty dollar wins yet again. At this point i'm looking forward to the next post he writes saying there's another delay giving numbers out.
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you forget that in order to keep the build numbers consistent with BSE all being built first, Joe would have to move one of his builds to accommodate a standard, correct? That means switching lots of things around.

Do you really need to know what your number is right now? The games aren’t even shipping and waiting another day or week won’t make a difference. Joe is going to get us the numbers when he has them. Not to mention he was dealing with a very serious personal issue.

when the games went on sale Joe had to put quantities of each available on his links. I know when i looked the BSE were already sold out leaving only standards. any fang club member had option to get BSE but they were sold out on his site due to a formality, so i assume thats why he allowed the chance to switch.. But he also had some structural problems which he posted about. Id assume thats going to take priority over getting numbers sorted.. NOONE is getting a game next week no matter what their number is

So if ppl can switch their pinballstar orders till the 30th then y’all will get your numbers after that. Seems pretty straight forward.

If the numbers aren't such a big deal why has it been so difficult for people to get numbers in the first place? If numbers aren't a big deal then why did Spooky wait till after everyone bought their spots to tell us the first 100 were already taken. The numbers are a big deal and if you don't want yours then that's on you. I spoke on the issue of letting people switch and in the process holding everyone else up who knew what they wanted to purchase ahead of time. I understand about the support beams but if people think that's the only reason numbers continue to be delayed than people are dead wrong. If the spots were refundable i'm sure he'd move a lot quicker but they aren't so he doesn't have to move any faster than he wants to. Like i said I'm looking forward to the next response from him explaining why numbers are getting delayed once again

That's why i wrote "I don't think holding everyone up for people that knew way ahead of time the difference between the 2 and paid for a standard is right" Do you think he's switching people around and dealing with all this trouble for free. The answer is hell no and the reason is bigger kickback.

This is also the principle used for Pinball2000, as well as the Theatre in Dialled In. My bet is (by the arangment of the garage) that this could have even been something that was being considered for inclusion in the game. The garage arangment is conducive to having a Portal graphic spinning in the actual playfield portal. Easy to see how it could blow out the BOM though as well.

Would we want a holographic portal if it were at the expense of the spectacular RGB lightshow?

Especially if it can easily be modded in later by those whom really want it.

Congrats to all those who got in on a R&M. I would be thrilled to have any number as these sold out so fast. These machines will be coveted by many. And always remember it is much better to wait a while for a great quality machine than get a piece of junk yesterday. Can’t wait to see the unboxings and game play videos. Great to see Spooky on their way up.

Perhaps you may have some luck selling your spot to another person in this thread?

Can someone please get harryhoudini on this?

I agree we've seen very little but we have seen enough to know the game was designed around the WORLD of the TV Show. The same can't be said for Stranger Things. I think Rick and Morty is the best theming job that Spooky has done to date, and I believe they will sell more than 750. If the demand is there they will make more why wouldn't they? I bet Rick and Morty sells more than Stranger Things because the game is better and if Spooky has a lot more demand they will make more. Its pointless right now because they haven't even made 1 to sell, so how about get thru 750 and see where your at. Stranger Things is not a fun game. Rick and Morty looks like a blast.

Funny you say this because I'm the one who says all the time that Kaneda opinion doesn't impact anything either. So I agree with you, however I never said my opinion impacts anything. I do feel there are a lot of people afraid to say anything negative about Stern. I really don't understand that honestly. If they lay an egg call them out. Period. If you want more, expect more demand more then CALL THEM OUT! Stern wants the same money as JJP now, but they don't do half the work. If you want 9k for something then demand 9k worth of bells and whistles.

I know I haven't played Rick and Morty but I can tell the heart and soul of the cartoon is in the game. The same can't be said for Stranger Things. Again just my opinion.

He used PayPal for his preorders. Because he could not estimate how many standards and BSEs we’re going to make up his allotment, he created a set amount of BSE and Standard preorder slots. It wasn’t set in stone though. Time to take your tin foil hat off.

I did send a PM... it could probably do with a little diagram for the mod thread too...

*edit: Added a diagram to mod thread-
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/rick-amp-morty-pinball-mod-co-development-thread#post-5381784

Not wanting spooky to sacrifice what they have, not saying that at all. Im thinking it would be easy for us to do if we wanted. My plan is play the crap out of it and look for ways to make it my own.

Rick and Morty pinball adventures 2 fomo before the first one ships.

Good man.

I disagree. Joe is as solid as they come, I have dealt with him many times -- in person. I am pretty sure his other businesses are the way he actually makes money. I don't get the impression there is a great deal of actual bottom-line profit in the pinball stuff.

The numbers are probably a cluster fuck of organization, it's the Christmas holidays and he probably has lots of family stuff like we all do...and he's had his balls busted by his emergency last week.

There are a few distributors that still have spots if you are serious.

I think it's becoming increasingly clear that Stern is a corporate machine with a huge "automatic" market of distributors and operators while the smaller manufacturers like Spooky; JJP; American and (if they get rolling and stay in cashflow/business) Deeproot will increasingly be seen by hobbyists as the more "hands on" boutique specialists.

Stern is crushing it, sales-wise. Stern will always crush it, sales-wise. There are many pinball sales outside of we Pinside maniacs. But, to US...the small crowd of Pinside maniacs purchasing things like this 750 Rick & Morty and other niche titles....I think many of us are starting to back off on some Stern purchases due to their mass market/release it with unfinished code/low quality mentality.

To me, at the end of 2019, it's starting to feel like: do you want a Ford...or do you want a different kind of car with a bit more thought (and less corporate motivation) behind it?

I am just now watching R&M show and find it's really good just watched the love potion and the alien baby episodes and some of the funniest things are just in the background (like when the PA announces said: don't go to the flu dance if you have the flu, you don't bring dead babies to Passover). But the episodes are so tight that they feel longer than the half hour run time they have so much that I re-watched a few of the early episode and found more on the repeat viewing.

Hopefully (I am sure) that RM pinball will have a ton of funny quotes and super attention to detail which both Scott / Spooky as well as the creators of RM show with every episode. It's still so early but I am getting more excited regarding the future of this pin.

Done!

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/rick-amp-morty-pinball-mod-co-development-thread#post-5381784

Didn't really mean you were saying that

More answering question and adding broader comment.

Just exactly as you stated though, one might guess that Spooky took this same view, if they Were considering something like this. It is something that can be left up to modders that want it. An option that, if excluded, would not take anything major away from the ball interaction or gameplay. The RGB sacrifice comment was a rehtorical question really I suppose. If I had to choose factory Holo-Portal or More RGB, I'd still go More RGB.

I'll still add a mod like this as well, though!

Yeah this seems really strange to me. Demand is red hot, proclamation of "sold out" in 4hrs, but yet spots are still floating around without mention? Are distributors not permitted to advertise that they have slots left? I purchased #563 BSE this morning. I had thought these were long gone.

You must not have bought from Pinball Star because Joe already addressed this to his customers via email..... That he makes the same commission whether BSD or not.

Not to be critical but this is something that might be looked into on future sales (with lessons learned) but hopefully there could be a master pool of games and as people buy form Spooky or dealers the numbers can be assigned in order. I mean if someone bought a BS 10 minutes after they go on sale from xyz dealer and get a worse number.

I don't care all that much but as someone who did order within 7-8 minuets (from PinballStar still waiting to hear my number) it just something that doesn't make sense of someone orders weeks later can get a better number (potentially).

“Sold out” doesn’t always mean sold out, in fact it usually doesnt. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve bought primo seats for “sold out” concerts days before the show on ticketmaster. Spooky has sold out, distributors haven’t.

Also, the initial FOMO frenzy is over. Given a couple weeks to think about it people may have moved on.

There’s apparently there Rick and morty games available right now here. I’m sure they aren’t the only distributor either.

With people allegedly paying thousands over face for spots seems kind of silly these are just sitting here like a lox.

https://nitropinball.com/products/rick-morty-blood-sucker-edition

Cant sell a spot/number i or anyone who ordered from joe dont have.

I never insulted him or his character. All i have said is he isn't giving people the opportunity to switch out of the goodness of his heart and that switching is one of the big reasons why people who ordered from him are sitting around twiddling their thumbs. You say "Cluster Fuck of Organization" How is first come first serve so difficult? Slot people in the order they purchased. Boom i just solved the issue. He could even filter on paypal and categorize it there. These numbers arent being given out fairly and people including myself are realizing that. If they were it wouldnt be so difficult for Joe to slot people.

I did. Got my receipt and everything. If he's sending information out to people who purchased from him well please tell him id like to know the same information as other paying customers.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/rick-amp-morty-pinball-from-spooky/page/65#post-5356368

How hard was this info to find?

A fool and their money are soon parted.

Hey that’s what I was referencing. Thanks for finding that post. Joe said the same thing when I talked to him although I didn’t end up buying from him. There’s your proof Mrawesome44

The whole problem stems from the mutually exclusive parameters the games were sold under.

You can't give blocks of games to distributors of yet unknown BSE vs Standard counts, AND promise to build all the BSEs first, AND assign numbers before knowing what the distributor version counts end up at, without either having to renumber or else having to build the distrib standards out of order.

Which wouldn't have been so confusing if it hadn't been an instant sellout.

I am sure that almost every Rick and Morty fan knows this already, but for those that are just starting to watch the show. Watch all of the credits. At then end of the credits after every episode (except the pilot), there is a hidden scene. Most of them are hilarious, and many of them answer questions that came up during the episode you just watched. I know that some people see the credits and stop the episode, moving on to the next one. This is one of the shows that you want to watch the last scene.

I have told people this before that finished season 3 and had no clue. They then went back and watched them all over again.. lol