Here they go again, being dishonest and manipulating the numbers!

Why won’t Spooky just be straight up about how many balls Can be locked.

Scott is saying 4, and then He’s saying 2. 4 times two divided by the square root of my invoice number is an impossible number of balls to lock.

Somebody is lying here.

My distributor said I’d be able to lock all the balls, and now other people are saying they’re able to lock 3 balls.

I just wish people would be honest about the number of ball locks.

I can’t figure how it’ll lock 2 on each side. Only 2 drop targets correct?

There is an "up post" behind the turnaround area that can keep balls on one side or the other.

ha ha holy shit how did I miss this! Only a R&M thread could have a geek post a Railroad ACI plate. I have one on my arcade-entry wall, pulled from a B&O/Chessie System trailer.

(for those of you who weren't really that curious, Railroads developed the "Automated Car Identification" system in the 1960's; it was the direct precursor to / adapted into the UPC barcodes we're more familiar with).

Sorry... even if it was accidental on the OP's part I just had to indulge the rare opportunity to tip a railroad reference around here. I gladly now return you to your "schedule"(d) bickering.

Hey Scott, being (some) licensed music, are there any plans to release a soundtrack like on TNA?

On a side note, I listened to the TNA soundtrack yesterday and wow, it is amazing. Here's to hoping it gets released on vinyl someday.

so looking fwd to the Danesi Horseshoe!

Calm down Ed.... you are forgetting to take into account the Canadian conversion rate. 4 American Balls is 2 Canadian Balls.... Spooky will have to include the game conversion features on all of it's exports. Making pinballs IS hard!

I have a good friend who presses custom vinyl in the INDIANAPOLIS area for pretty significant artists. I can put y’all in touch!!

I mentioned this the other day but speaking of "locks" that thread got one...

So I just wanted to make sure you saw credit to your ingenuity on this new design: Most ball locks have just a single shared entry/exit point, making them sort of "Dead zones" where nothing else can happen there. So it's a commitment of pf space.

The RaM lock seems like one of the few (if not only?) locks that is traversible all the way through, let alone in *both* directions!

I can't wait to see how the rules will play out in terms of capturing balls on each side, or all on one, etc. I imagine having 3 or more could be interesting once they're released, especially if the left side release favors a trajectory toward the pop...

I see that there's some inference in the communications from Spooky, and reasonable people could read their words different ways. But I think the response from a few people here is way out-of-proportion. This is not a Predator or JPop situation. Everyone was told they'll get one of 750 tables, and production starts in January. Nobody here was given a build order.

Spooky's a little company. Making pins will take time. Let's all buckle in for the long haul of seeing "I got mine" posts and people obsessing over how much their shipping company is screwing up. We'll be here for 18 months, give or take.

Yes I was talking about the inner loop, thank you for clarifying.. going to be an awesome game

A portal print design on a vinyl soundtrack would be very cool.

As an International Fang Club member, I paid more for my membership. I should be able to lock more balls. That would be fair... But NO, not with Sneaky Pinball.

I can't either, and I'm the one that would have to build the logic to make that happen.

Three in the lock is not as much of a problem, but to get to 4 we'd have to have 3 on one side for at least some amount of time and then the game wouldn't know where that ball is, which is always bad.

So, yeah, there are 4 detectable ball positions in the thing; but filling all of them would be problematic. Sorry Scott.

Now that's taking Get Schwifty way too literal!

Take off your pants and your panties...

You might be on to something here, Luke said there were 5 balls total in the game - one of them being staged in the portal. If we lock 4 in the Sanesi lock 2.0 and have one in the portal. THEN WHO WAS PHONE?!

Hi. I’m a return customer (18 months for my ACNC) and landed at #707 BSE for another year and a half wait. I don’t think there was any boost for prior game buyers. If there was, I’m not sure how getting #707 was a perk. The good thing is if I don’t want to wait I should be able to move my place to another buyer and get my deposit back. But I have lots of time to think about it. . Also it did not help that I was on the fence in the morning and when I finally committed probably scored one of the Very last BSE’s. My number is reflective of that indecision.

I'm really glad you were able to figure out how to light up the clear drop targets to be included in the light show. Hopefully it's something that can be retrofitted to the TNA drop targets...when you have some...you know...down time

neat insight, thanks man.

So I had a really nice talk with Kayte at Spooky and let me start by saying how awesome she is. She explained a lot more stuff about the ordering etc, and it made perfect sense. I encourage anyone else who, like me, was genuinely wondering what happened to go talk to her or Spooky (be polite!). I'm excited about my pin and look forward to owning my first spooky pin. I apologize for sounding like a broken record, and if I did have any misinformation in my posts it was absolutely not intentional.

Happy Holidays to all.

This mech sounds like it will the swiss army knife of toys. Using it as uper fast horseshoe shot, using it as physical lock, using it as simple drop target shot, using it as a captive ball(s) that can move some side to side. So many possibilities for mini side missions.

Didn’t you sell your spot?

That was my thinking. I figured either side could hold two with a third on the opposite side, but once in that state, I couldn't figure out how to get that fourth ball in place. It was bothering me that I couldn't figure it out. Thanks for clarifying.

Thank you.

whenever I see a post from donkadelic, all I'm visualizing is this:

seriously, some people need to realize that pinball is a hobby and a luxury item. move on and complain (or doing something) about real world things, not pinball

What is the price difference between the base model and the blood sucking LE?

So with someone posting their BSE #710 in here, that means 40 or less standards were made. How many Big Lebowskis are out there? I am fully expecting my June 2021 production Standard to quickly appreciate to TBL values.

Also, why did standard + BSE get their own game pages considering the differences are just cosmetic? If Stern Premiums/LE's get one page I'd think this should be consolidated at some point just to avoid confusion.

Incredibly pumped for this game, every time Scott posts I just get more excited. So much potential for cool shit with these mechs + the lighting, I assume by the time my game shows up this thing will be absolutely kick ass.

We are almost neighbors. I was receipt 1860, and I'm game number 295.

$6995 standard
$7520 blood sucker

Thanks, is that all in cost including delivery?

I am #740, so I have a chunk of time to wait. But I expected that and waiting doesn't bother me (I was also waiting a long while for RZ, which is still my wife's favorite game). I went with the standard because the purple armor was not my favorite and I can powdercoat myself anyway and choose my own coloring. Now if we could just get someone to make either Archer or Bob's Burgers...

I will pay 50,000* for spot #1.

That does not include delivery as delivery charges vary based on your location. Picking the game up in Benton is always free though.

They released a rick and morty double album. Prob all the songs from that in this game. I ordered mine!

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Thanks, I had a quote for an all in cost of 7250 from a distributor so I was curious

I ordered the same one. Boy, I'm going to spend a lot of money in the next 10-11 months on R and M gear.

Wow...checked the thread yesterday afternoon and come back to see 500+ posts. Interesting.

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Are you still in our have you claimed your refund from Spooky they offered you?

It's "jibe" not "jive."

Which, while not nearly as funky, makes a lot more sense.

Also, regardless of whether or not you like to invent meanings for words that make no sense, possible long waits are part of the Spooky deal. Everybody knows this. I don't get buying a Spooky game and then complaining it may take two years to get one.

We all knew it was only a matter of time before the throngs would start to turn on Spooky...but it hasn't even been a week since these things went on sale! Tranquilo, baby!

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Exactly neighbor. I have 1818, and feel the same way. I'd prefer to not have one of the very first pins too. Here's to a fun spring!

I completely agree. Hopefully it's used like that alot

Those aren't the only 2 options.

How dare I point out that they're making 250 offline games before the 31st online order...

Again, this is 100% FINE. Just tell us ahead of time, don't make it seem like it's 50/50 and online had an equal shot at an early game # when it clearly wasn't the case.

BSEs (75)

----- 051-059 pinball star
----- 082 nitro
----- 084 nitro
----- 111
----- 118
1790 120
1791 121
1792 122
1794 123
1802 128
1804 130
1805 131
1812 ---
1816 141
1818 143
----- 170
----- 255
1823 258
1824 259
1827 262
1839 273
1841 274
1849 282
1853 284
1855 286
1856 287
1859 294
1860 295
1862 297
----- 351
1867 355
1869 357
1873 360
1875 362
1882 369
1886 373
1887 374
----- 376
1900 386
1906 390
1910 393
1912 395
1917 399
----- 420
----- 422
1931 413
----- 414
1940 423
1944 427
1946 429
1956 435
----- 440
1977 476
1980 457
----- 459
1982 458
1986 461
2012 484
2018 488
----- 493
2034 498
2041 653
2057 666
2065 670
2091 683
2099 689
2121 705
2127 709
2128 710
charity 750

STANDARDS (13)

1793 712
1815 717
----- 719
----- 721
1847 722
1870 725
1908 727
----- 733
1981 736
----- 737
2000 739
----- 740
2075 749

Yeah and I must have missed the part where they said in advance that the first 100 were already spoken for and that the NEXT 50 would go to dealers. Probably my fault so no worries.

Heck I barely remembered it was that morning so I knew with my late response I'd be pretty far back in line. If only more people would have gone for the standard...

no, that is just the cost of the base game. no extras, no tax, no shipping.

If you buy from Kingpin and ask for the butter option, he will deliver your game wearing this.

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The wait is killing me The good/bad news here is that the code is very premature. How raw is it - maybe 10% - 20% complete?

So if the first 100 games are delivered in 1Q20, those getting the game will be playing early code That code doesn’t exist today, but it will be created and available then. Now if your game # is around number 250, your game will arrive by June 2020 and it should have solid code. Game can be enjoyed and evaluated at that point. Many of the production woes will have been resolved.

Did I mention the wait is killing me ????

Imagine if he tried.

Just a suggestion to Spooky to keep the line orderly..... They have made it clear from the start any buyer can have buyers remorse and there is no issue selling your spot. They Should however note that you are buying a Spot and any buyer sale transfer will form at the back of the line! All numbers stay the same just that last minute buyer steps to the back of the line. Pretty much an industry standard and would dispel the few trying to make a buck off the spooky orders. Just a thought.