I know of several games in the 50s and one who was in the 40s that went to people I know who bought through a distributor. Some even bought two games and both were low numbers. These were not special or reserved games or VIPs etc.

Agreed. It makes total sense from Spooky’s perspective that the VIPs, past customers, etc. could jump the line. It’s just too bad they didn’t mention that in the explanation of how this all would work. Sure, maybe they told people who called and asked, but I felt no need to call after reading their posted info that seemed to lay it all out (and implied that average Joes would have a fair shot at the lowest numbers). I’m sure it was just an oversight, but a mistake nonetheless. Live and learn. As others have said, though, this isn’t exactly the liver allocation list we’re talking talking about. I’m stoked for this game whenever it arrives. BTW, I ordered from PinballStar and haven’t heard about my number. If I’m in the top 50, I’ll switch places with the highest bidder (Not)!

It was $1000. $1500 or so if you got BSE (most people did).

I have no idea why people think they can get $3k or $5k for their spot. One guy (who can't spell "ad") is listing for $5999.

Well I ordered a bse and got a receipt at 10:05 from a distributor plus I’m a previous purchaser. I hope I’m not behind people who ordered direct from spooky with a sales receipt after 10:05. If that was the case I wouldn’t order from a distributor again for a spooky game. Seems like a no win situation for spooky and distributors. Everything should have been through distributor or spooky.

In the end it’s a good problem for spooky since they sold out.

Well whatever you 'know' is wrong lol because I have just about every game in the 50s (51-59) and I haven't slotted anyone yet so you're getting bullshitted... So... don't believe everything you hear. We are still sorting out our orders and hope to have our slotting done by Monday.

Shame on you for spreading facts

Distributor and Spooky games were equally laid out by Spooky prior so early folks would get a relatively early number with Spooky if that's how they laid out their slots and you would get an relatively early number with a distributor as well again assuming the distributor is laying out their slots in same manner. It was a totally fair and well thought out way to do it. There is no disadvantage from buying from one place or the other. You're wrong on that.

Be careful what you say Joe. Next time Spooky has a high-profile title, you'll have 750 people trying to order from you first and then bitching at YOU when they don't get a low number......

Pretty sure if you go back through this mammoth thread, you'll find they did explain.

I am not a buyer so no axe to grind.

However I do remember them saying that they were allocating to distributors and that Fang Club didn't 100% guarantee a game.

They said they were mixing distributor games with direct.

At no point did it say ordering direct got you to front of Q.

It was always going to be a bit of a lottery as to build date.

It would be crazy if Spooky didn't look after the distributors that have supported them.

Anyway there will be probably another dozen NIB games in the next 18 months so plenty of choice.

Ok, I was curious because I can get one through my distributor right now and it would be delivered in Feb. I have to pay the full amount but get it early. I haven’t pulled the trigger on it I told him I’d let him know today

It's no secret that Joe is amazing to deal with and a genuinely honest man. He has gone out of his way on many occasions to help his customers and stand up for what is right on pinball issues.

Thanks Joe!

Did you send out more than one email blast when sales went live?

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Rick and Morty was just added to the Pinside Game Database and it is already flooded by pinstadium ads

because one middle of the road spot just sold for 2700$

Then why do the first direct games appear to not start until about #120 and even according to you, you have distributor games for customers who bought through you in the 50s? This is fair and no disadvantage to one or the other? I’m asking genuinely to try to understand.

Order #1 or so online is #120 in line.
Order #31 or so online is #258 in line
Order #75 or so online is #350 in line

Look, I'm really not trying to complain here, but this is the reality of the situation and just doesn't jive with the original statements about how the line was going to form.

The fact is you were at a HUGE disadvantage if you bought through spooky's website, as far as getting an early number.

Spooky was not up front about how these games would be distributed.

Here is the direct quote from spooky:

1. We allow 375 of our 750 games to distributors. These games are preloaded into the list evenly across the full 750 spots.

2. We do that because many of our customers prefer to buy through their distributor who they have long standing relationships with. Would not be fair to build all spooky direct games first because that would essentially cut our distributors business. All customers have an even chance of an early number this way no matter how they buy.

3. Cartoon network has team games as well as spooky these will have to be built early obviously due to contractual requirements with licensing and suppliers.

4. The remaining spots purchased from our website are layered in starting at #1 so yes you have a real chance of acquiring early places in line when you order direct!

But maybe I'm misreading this? Is this a misunderstanding? I'm just asking for transparency is all. Buying through a distributor got you a chance to get a game as early as January. Buying direct, the earliest is April.

He said "if that's how spooky laid out their spots"

Not just you , but everyone : If you have issues with ordering direct from Spooky , direct your issues to them.

Not fair to try and have Joe answer about how spooky laid out their allotments. His point was about the games numbered in the 50's.

I'm perfectly fine with the preorder situation. I had a very low number at 1812 but knew there would be many more before me. I'm a little relieved actually that they'll have over 100 done by the time they do mine and may have any kinks worked out if there are any. I bought the Fang club membership in the hopes of just getting a machine, not just getting to the front of the queue. It gives me more time to decide on some of the upgrades.

If I was Spooky I would have dumped you both already.

You're right. You did say that......

You guys keep saying you're done complaining. Not gonna post anymore. This is my last post. Fucking pick up the phone and call the company you purchased from or fucking chill.

You should try to get out however you can. You're not going to be able to deal with the wait. People are trying to explain this to you and you're calling them liars.

Totally fucking annoying.

Joe interjected himself to this thread so it is fair.

Because I'm simply asking why what we were told isn't what happened? How dare I simply ask the question. Bring out the bell and yell shame!

There is no conspiracy. No one has to tell you shit other than your order was successful and you will get your machine.

Refer back to post #1636

Finally. Thank you mods. This thread was becoming unbearable.

I can't believe this is still going. You two are perfect examples of why companies keep people in the dark. Let it go already, it isn't a big deal. If you don't want it, someone will gladly take them off your hands and you can try to buy one later. Unless the only reason you are mad is because you were going to try to flip them for BIG MONEY!

Let's ,move on already guys!

I ordered direct at about 9:27 AM and I'm build number 650 something! oh well!!! No big deal!!!

I'll wait because I decided to buy the machine that I think I will enjoy and didn't want to miss the opportunity .... I didn't decide tp buy the machine on some notion of when I would get it!

LETS MOVE ON>PLEASE

I wouldn't be surprised if Spooky pinball stops pushing any cool new info or videos now to this website because of the BS they have to respond to here.

Huh, I was wondering why I got an explanation of how the game numbers were determined in the e-mail...this explains it...you people are insatiable!
And I am not at all upset with our place in line...approximately 74 weeks away...oooweee! We're just glad we got one.
(I'll add that our order was placed direct, within the first hour of sales, in case you were wondering...)

I'm certain we'll get to play one in the wild waaaay sooner than that, and that's ok!

The wife and I both decided we liked the Rick's-space-ship-garbage-grey over purple :3

Bingo, that's a big part of it. Have to flip when hype is at the peak.

And here I was thinking entitlement was just a Millennial generation thing....

You can backhand the right side lock from the right flipper no problem. You can also backhand the left lock from the left flipper. The new lock is perfectly symmetrical to the flippers. I hope that is what you were asking.
--Scott

Edit: Ohh, if you meant hit the inner loop that is on the left upper side of the playfield, no, you cannot hit that with the right flipper. The upper flipper is the only one that can hit that shot.

The right flipper can hit the 3 standup targets, the left ramp, the noob noob taget, the left lock, the scoop, and the right lock.

We have a winner:

"one is going on route near me so this is not a must have at home"

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Scott, TNA has some amazing music, can you provide any details on this game? Is there a mix of custom music plus songs from the show?

This is just like TBL hassle!! maybe we should table this thread for about 6 Months!!!

Glad you asked! I made a crap ton of exciting music for the game and remixed some of the show music as well. I also did the sound effects with the exception of the sounds from the show. If you liked what I did on TNA and ACNC, you shoudl be happy.
--Scott

Hi Scott,

RM pin looks awesome! I can't wait to get mine! #653.

can you tell us how many balls lock for a MB in that new ball lock mech you designed???

Second that. I'm very interested in how this works.

This is big for me. Music in Pinball is so underrated. A great sound package makes a big difference! If you can share anything in advance would love to hear. You're very talented!

The lock can lock up to 3. We are currently using it in really cool ways as a lock, a movable captive ball, and a fast-ass u-turn. I am extremely happy with how it turned out.

This game is going to be awesome

Finally. Something worth reading...

Is this the state changing mechanism? Sounds like a lot of options are being squeezed out of this.

sound great!

Thanks Scott.

hope there are multiple MB modes as well!

The minute I heard the theme music in the promo video is when I decided to purchase.

“Danesi soundtrack - CHECK!”

you need to find a better distributor. do you have to pay more to get real service in a timely matter?

find a distributor that does their job and doesn't "sell" their spots to the highest bidder.

this makes me sick.

The first cut of the teaser was done without any voice over and you could really hear the music. It gets a little lost among all the callouts. Which is good and bad I guess.

I love this as an inner loop shot too. Hoping it will be open a good part of the time.