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RFM software update problem


By rajung

7 years ago



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#1 7 years ago

I currently have 1.2 version
I did get a 9 pin null cable and connected to PC with windows vista home version.
Installed pinball 2000 update manager ( V1.3) program to upgrade software to 1.5 from 1.2
I have the update manager running in compatibility mode for win 95 and installed and running fine.
When I click on connect to game on the program it runs and says 1.2 version installed.
I did download the 1.5 sound and program file
When I click on the drive letter of where the file is and scan it says scan/copy of update file failed
thanks for any advice on what may be my issue.

#2 7 years ago

Find someone to borrow from or buy a PUB card. A local pinball guru lent me his and it was easy to do and took about 10 minutes. - Barry

#3 7 years ago

Make sure you do not unzip the update files. They should stay as 1 zip file.

-Mike

#4 7 years ago

I upgraded from my 0.9 version to a 1.5 and it has radically changed the game play with new "?" and Ball Save. A insider helped me. Took 10 mins and I hope you get it up and running very soon!

#5 7 years ago

Initially I unzipped and didnt get it to work.
I just tried and d/l the file again without unzipping and put it on a thumb drive but it does the same thing. Cant find files error ,Is the sound and program file only 2.24mb?
Seems to me kind of small and maybe a incomplete download
thanks again

#6 7 years ago

I can't swear to this but it did not work for me when I ran it in windows 95 but did work for me when I ran windows Xp. Not sure what vista can do with it.

#7 7 years ago

Try a incremental upgrade to 1.4 first.

#8 7 years ago

I ran program in Xp service pack 2 and didn't help
I also downloaded 1.4 sound and program file and ran that
instead of giving me an error / copy failed when doing scan of drive file is on, it just says scan complete but nothing pops up, as if no files exist.
I am d/l the files from planetary pinball
I have tried these both zipped and unzipped.
Do I just need the sound/program file?
Also just tried sound file separately, and same thing
thanks

#9 7 years ago

Where is the actual zip file located on your computer? On your desktop? there is a file name limit on that old school software, so it reads the path as well as the file name.... Move the zip to the root of your machine (C and give it a try...

#10 7 years ago

I downloaded the sound/program file onto my win 7 64 computer and transferred to a thumb drive.
My other pc is win vista which has the manager update program installed.
I ran that program and connected to the machine and shows that 1.2 version is installed, so that part works.Once I click on scan drive for program update,directing it to the drive letter of the thumb drive, it errors right away,the error shows the update version in the string followed by a a long set of numbers.I also copied and pasted the program,opened up C drive and placed directly there but still get the same errors.The error line I get, I think is just the long file name

#11 7 years ago

I ran into this issue on windows 7 a few years ago... it was a dos file name limitation... going from memory... I placed the zip file into the root drive (c) and renamed it update.zip. I ran the software and it picked up the files inside the renamed zip..

#12 7 years ago

just tried that and no go.
What a PIA

#13 7 years ago

You copied the file to the root of c: (c:\), correct? And you are coping the exe program file, not any extracted files? Are you still using the Windows XP system?

I just did my RFM tonight with XP and I placed the file long file name in c:\ and it worked like a champ. I went from 1.2 to 1.5.

#14 7 years ago

I put it on desk top and tried, and opened up C drive and placed it there.Either location shows C:\users\....
I wonder even though the program update manager works, that the file itself cant be read correctly
by a Vista based pc trying to run in comparability mode for other software which it wasn't intended for.
Here is the file/files just in case I am doing/loading something wrong
I have just copied /pasted the program unzipped but just to eliminate I did try unzipping and that wouldn't work also..

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#15 7 years ago

Trying putting the file into the real root of C:\... Hit windows key-E to open explorer and navigate to the root of the C: drive from there. Here is a screen shot with the update file in the root, from my virtual machine. Hope this helps... good luck!

-Jay

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#16 7 years ago

Thanks
I just put it there and will try hooking it all back up in a short while.
I did notice though,the zipped file as highlighted in your screen shot has a .exe extension as mine does not.I didn't want to change the file name but might have to add that

#17 7 years ago

No need to change it... Looking at your screengrab, you have the "hide known file extensions" checked in Windows... No biggie, you can see Vista recognizes the .exe as an application.

#18 7 years ago

I would also switch to your XP machine if you can. XP definitely works. 64 bit Vista/Win7 makes things a bit more complex. There are instructions from a third party on doing the upgrade with 64 bit but it is command line based using extracted files from the installer.

#19 7 years ago

OK, well it didn't work anyway
still get the following after clicking on scan drive for updates

SCAN/COPY OF UPDATE FILE FAILED

c:\PIN2000_50070_0150_07252000_B_10000000.EXE:0

as far as switching pc's, the other one is a Vista operating system Vista home version 32bit, no XP available
I am running the program in compatibility mode as both win 98 and Xp.The update program 1.3 runs in the vista machine but I am thinking the update file 1.5 wont work on the vista one regardless what compatibility mode its in

#20 7 years ago

the software was made in 1999 when it was only win98 and win 95 so trying Vista win 7 or even XP will not work
so for me has worked update manager 130 only on a win 98 old machine
put the pin2000_50070_0150_07252000_B_10000000.exe
in a folder "workfolder " click on it to extract archive the then browse to this folder when started update manager 130 for the pin2000_50070_0150_game.rom ONLY
and yes to find it better put "workfolder" in C:
should look like the picture in attach

I have also version 1.8 developed in germany and in english ,,,,,I will put a link later but it seems it need more RAM original is 4MB and it need 8 MB or 16 MB

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#21 7 years ago
Quoted from doctor_pinball:

the software was made in 1999 when it was only win98 and win 95 so trying Vista win 7 or even XP will not work
so for me has worked update manager 130 only on a win 98 old machine
put the pin2000_50070_0150_07252000_B_10000000.exe
in a folder "workfolder " click on it to extract archive the then browse to this folder when started update manager 130 for the pin2000_50070_0150_game.rom ONLY
and yes to find it better put "workfolder" in C:
should look like the picture in attach
I have also version 1.8 developed in germany and in english ,,,,,I will put a link later

A link would be great, I couldn't find it. I know some reports were that you have to have Win 98, but I can confirm that XP definitely does work. I just did it last night on my RFM with a USB to serial adapter and a null modem converter.

Rajung, as far as Vista/Win7 you can try this approach if you are running out of options (which is sounds like you are) : http://www.brianpeek.com/post/Pinball-2000-Software-Update-with-Windows-7-x64

#22 7 years ago

Thanks
I will try that and I am running out of options.
One thing I am doing,I have/remembered that I have a Toshiba laptop with Vista installed as a upgrade from XP that I did free upgrade at the time when purchased.I still have the XP disc so right now I am formatting back to XP, hopefully it takes.Was going to junk this thing but may find new use for it again.Though luck has it, no rs232 9 pin serial port, but I do have a USB to rs232 adapter
never had much luck with those things but maybe this time.Thanks all for tagging along.Ice storm heading through and lights are a flicking, What else.

#23 7 years ago

They work pretty well if you get a decent one. If you do use the USB to RS232 adapter you still need a null model converter (either that or you could try to hack the cross over of the pins). I got the female to female since most USB to serial adapters are male and the Pinball 2000 interface card is male. Newegg has it for $4.99 shipped : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812200512

#25 7 years ago

I used windows XP and it worked no problem for me..

#26 7 years ago

I used XP as well.

#27 7 years ago

The USB to serial rs232 adapter cable I have has male pins, the 10' 9 pin null cable I have is female on both ends, am I assuming that the null modem cable you are referring to would not be need then?
But actually it doesn't matter anyway,I did get XP installed back into the laptop but the serial/usb cable wont install correctly since it cant load drivers for it and it never came with a disc.
I went ahead and ordered a RS-232 PCMCIA Card for the laptop,hopefully it works like a installed port
thanks all

#28 7 years ago

If I recall correctly a null modem cable has a pair of wires swapped vs a normal serial cable, but it's been so long I'm not sure if I recall correctly.

#29 7 years ago

any one have info on how to upgrade unseeing a Prism Update Board? just looking at more options.
I see "pinballsparepartsaustralia" has some
thanks

#30 7 years ago
Quoted from rajung:

The USB to serial rs232 adapter cable I have has male pins, the 10' 9 pin null cable I have is female on both ends, am I assuming that the null modem cable you are referring to would not be need then?
But actually it doesn't matter anyway,I did get XP installed back into the laptop but the serial/usb cable wont install correctly since it cant load drivers for it and it never came with a disc.
I went ahead and ordered a RS-232 PCMCIA Card for the laptop,hopefully it works like a installed port
thanks all

It sounds like you have everything you need now. XP, the right cable, the right null modem adapter. If the right drivers are your only obstacle, you should be able to find them online. If you can't find them, tell me exactly what is says on the USB to serial cable and I'll see if I can dig them up for you and send you the link.

#31 7 years ago

well after a bunch of trial and mostly error I have finally got the program updated from 1.2 to 1.5
Using a reverted windows Vista back to Windows Xp operating system on a laptop I had,Installing / plug in style RS232 serial port buscard into slot and changing the default comm port it installed itself into from comm port 4 to comm port 1 it finally decided to work.
For me, I have never had luck with USB to anything convertors/adapters trying to fool the computer into thinking it has something it doesn't.
Just want to thank those who did post help

#32 7 years ago

Excellent! It is great to hear that everything finally worked out for you.

#33 7 years ago

Good work. Glad to see your persistence paid off.

#34 7 years ago
Quoted from doctor_pinball:

I have also version 1.8 developed

Has anyone installed this? What are the benefits over 1.5?

3 years later
#35 3 years ago

Saving this thread as I will be trying this soon. So not a good idea to try with a Vista laptop I gather?

#36 3 years ago

Vista should be fine.... just run in compatibility mode.... i did mine from a windows 7 box and it worked fine.

#37 3 years ago
Quoted from lurch:

Vista should be fine.... just run in compatibility mode.... i did mine from a windows 7 box and it worked fine.

Ok what is compatibility mode and how do I access it? I'm pretty green with this stuff!

#38 3 years ago

Here: http://brianpeek.com/post/Pinball-2000-Software-Update-with-Windows-7-x64

This should help. Its a little more complicated than running compatibility mode like it did, but its a step by step guide. (i dont have my machine anymore so i cant give you a step-by-step walk-through.

#39 3 years ago
Quoted from lurch:

Here: http://brianpeek.com/post/Pinball-2000-Software-Update-with-Windows-7-x64
This should help. Its a little more complicated than running compatibility mode like it did, but its a step by step guide. (i dont have my machine anymore so i cant give you a step-by-step walk-through.

OK thanks for the link. I'm hoping to find a win xp laptop as that appears to be easier (to me). Wish me luck

#40 3 years ago

No problem. Let me know if you have any questions.... i think the most crucial part is finding a PC/laptop with a serial port.

#41 3 years ago
Quoted from lurch:

No problem. Let me know if you have any questions.... i think the most crucial part is finding a PC/laptop with a serial port.

Ok will do thanks!

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