RFM Pin2K: LED/LCD monitor upgrade advice?

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RFM Pin2K: LED/LCD monitor upgrade advice?


By Whysnow

4 years ago



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#1 4 years ago

Hello all, I am nearing the completion of my RFM full restoration
http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/why-not-an-ongoing-revenge-from-mars-restoration/page/2#post-1298072

and trying to weigh all the options surrounding a monitor conversion/upgrade. I will admit up front that I basically know nothing about monitors, CRT, LCD, LED or other.

Advice and tips from the experts would be greatly appreciated.

I am currently running the stock CPU but I do have a Nucore waiting in a box.
My understanding is that with Nucore, a LCD/LED would look much better than just running my stock pin2k CPU.
My understanding is that if I run the stock CPU I need some sort of additional CRT to LCD converter but with Nucore a LED/LCD TV would be plug and play?

I researched old threads and it seems like some complain that the LCD blacks are more grey? Has anyone done a LED monitor in place of the LCD? I was under the impression that LED monitors have better blacks?

At this point I have put so much in to this game, it is beyond the point of return so I might as well go all the way

WHat would be the best case senario to do the BEST monitor conversion and what do I have to do to make it work?

I am guessing I need to buy some sort of new monitor bracket, maybe conversion cables, and the actual TV?

#2 4 years ago

Basically
What is the best monitor/ TV to use and how do I go about making it all happen?

#3 4 years ago

bump for help

#4 4 years ago

Mine has a HAPP LCD CRT replacement in it. I'm not sure if they even make them any longer, but the one I have is amazing.

If you can get this one, I recommend it....

#5 4 years ago

do you have any info on specs?

#6 4 years ago

I put an 22" LCD in mine with original p2k computer. I made my own mounting bracket out of aluminum angle iron. You need a converter card to convert the standard CGA signal to VGA. You also need to build a small sync adapter so video will sync correctly.

I have not had anytime to adjust colors but I did notice my blacks were not very black. Like you mentioned, blacks are supposed to be better with LED monitors. So, I purchased another 22" LED monitor during black friday. Waiting for my ankle to heal up before I can swap monitors.

With nucore, you can just plug monitor straight into computer. No converter or sync adapter needed. From what I have read, the graphics are better.

#7 4 years ago

If I wanted to use this conversion bracket kit >>>
http://www.greatlakesmodular.com/index.html?http://www.greatlakesmodular.com/products/pinball/p2k_lcd.html

And wanted to get a 22 inch LED monitor what specs do I need to look for?

Does the monitor need to be something specific? Just a standard 22inch? widescreen 22?

Sorry, but like I said I know nothing about monitors or TVs really. I have always have good luck with samsung and that is about all I know...

#8 4 years ago

Yes that bracket will work perfect. Lots of p2k owners use it.

From what I read, any monitor 20"-23" will work. These will all be widescreen and supposedly fill up the playfield nicely.

I mainly read tons and tons of reviews on monitors. Looked for comments on black levels, color, and contrast. I ended up settling on a 22" Hanns-G LED. I chose it mainly for the price(on sale for $90 from $160) and it had decent reviews. We'll see. I did not want to spend a lot.

One thing to make sure you look for is that the monitor is able to be mounted. Quite a few that I was considering did not have mounting holes on backside.

#9 4 years ago

Great info! Just curious when you think you may do the swap to the LED?

I would love to hear your review.

thanks!

#10 4 years ago

Just curious, why not keep the original CRT? I think they look the best, especially in terms of black levels.

#11 4 years ago

Mine does not look all that great compared to others I have seen (my blacks are kind of grey and not as crisp as I would like) and I was under the impression that with nucore, a new LED monitor would be both much lighter and look better?

#12 4 years ago

Unfortunately probably not for a few months. Just had cast put on my ankle last tuesday and im supposed to have it on for 8-10 weeks. Then to a air boot.

Maybe I can talk a buddy into swapping it in for me.

#13 4 years ago

ouch, and sorry to is going to be that long of a healing process. At least it is good drinking on the couch weather

#14 4 years ago
Quoted from grbgemen:

22" Hanns-G LED.

Do you have the model number handy?

#15 4 years ago

also, how do I know if a monitor can be mounted? Is that identified as something specific? looks like most are just a built in stand...

#16 4 years ago

Not to push the issue of using the original CRT, but have you adjusted it? There are controls on the neck board and sometimes on a little satelite board as well. I'm just a big fan of the CRT. Mine looked lousy when I got it, but a $20 cap kit and about an hour of work had it looking perfect again. If you do go with an LED or LCD, make sure you get that old CRT to an arcade collector and not the dump!

#17 4 years ago

The black levels of the CRT are hard to beat. If your tube is good and no burn in (image) I would re-cap the chassis & neck board and enjoy it. Adding a video amp REALLY makes the image pop. If your CRT died then I would go the flat panel route.

#18 4 years ago

I'm in the same situation with a NIB Nucore that I've been sitting on, just waiting to pimp out my RFM. I feel like my CRT loses its crispness after it's been powered up for 10+ min, although it's not too bad.

I'd like to install the Nucore and a flat screen at some point and will be watching this post.

#19 4 years ago

Any display that physically fits the space will work. I've had good luck with 22" widescreen Dell, Acer, and Samsung.

The GLM mounting kits, and CGA/VGA plug-n-play converters, are available from my site.

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#20 4 years ago

the original was either a 19" ducksan or well-gardner. wouldn't it be preferable to replace it with a 19" 4:3 lcd/led panel to keep the same aspect ratio and positioning of the content projected onto the playfield?

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