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Reward!!! Help with lamp matrix

By paynemic

7 years ago


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#1 7 years ago

$10 PayPal for the first person who can point me right to the problem(s) to get this fixed.

Ok. So I'm a noob. I broke the number one commandment and did leds with power on in my friends data east Star Wars. I suck. I should have known. Now I have all kinds of lamp matrix problems. Single lamp tests often light up two and three lamps. There is a decided pattern. I tested the board, its fine. I'm guessing shorts and or diodes out. I will do some wire tracing, but I'm wondering if anyone can identify the problem from my single lamp test results:

I will attach my notes scribbled on the lamp matrix in the manual (I labeled with letters the lamp tested and a the same letter starred or primed ' on the lamp that also lit incorrectly) but I will try to make sense of the pattern to the problems.

Basically, row 7 seems to mostly work normally. But anything above it in the early columns (1-3) lights itself, the lamp in the same row in column 6 and in the same column but 7th row. For example, lamp 2 also lights lamp 7 and lamp 42. Or lamp 11 also lights 15 and 43.

Column 6 has similar bahavior. Anything in c7 or 8 mirrors over to same row, in c6.

There are some other patterns, but hopefully this will be enough to get me something to fix to reduce the chaos for further testing.

#2 7 years ago

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#4 7 years ago
Quoted from lyonsden:

Sounds like a diode. Have a multimeter to test them?

Yes. On the lamp matrix, do I have to desolder? And are there any logical places to start?

#8 7 years ago

Oh crap. I have no idea. It was from a grab bag sampler I think I got from pinballlife. Can that really happen?!!

2 months later
#12 7 years ago
Quoted from seb951:

Hi There, i had just about the exact same problem. Single lamp test would light other lights in the matrix on multiple rows. What it was is I had a few of diodes solder backwards in three lamp locations. In my case, both R2D2 Dome Left and Right and the Jabba's right power scoop light. Soldered them the right way and everything worked. Go over all your diodes on the playfield for the lamp matrix. I didn't change any of the LEDs so the messages about that are just plain false --- as I have LEDs from just about all the manufactures including incandescent regular bulbs .

Much appreciated. I will go over them one by one. I'm just a little worried I wouldn't recognize a properly configured one from incorrect. Do diodes in circuit in the lamp matrix test normally? Or do I have to unsolder to test if they're bad?

9 months later
#14 6 years ago

Yep. For me it was a backward diode after all. Good quality led or incandescent can mask the problem so it seems to appear when some people switch to led.

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