Fish Tales
Williams, 1992Quoted from McCune:Will you Bryan Kelly, be bringing some of these so called ultra cabinets to Expo ? If not, you had better wear a cup !
Don't know yet, Jim. The logistics in getting one to every show may be a little tough. You can stop over and check it out in person anytime.
I'm not sure my cabinet buddy lives close enough to me to make that feasible. I'd love to be able to though.
Quoted from ToucanF16:Brian,
Will your cabinet come with installed grounding braid and side rails?
I would like to see some more pictures. It sounds awesome, and I know you wouldn't recommend it if it was junk.
I've had a HEP pin, but I prefer to restore my own, which I *do* treat like fine furniture 
Might be interested in a White Water cabinet at some point, since mine is held together with drywall screws. I've got another used lower White Water I was thinking about restoring, but by the time I buy the artwork, fix all the issues in the cabinet, and install the artwork....
I was mostly asking about durability, as I know how much stress and weight playfield slides hold, and I was trying to figure out how they would attach with no fasteners through the cabinet.
Man, I'm one of the more anal collectors I know and I have to say that cabinet bolts never caused me to lose any sleep Hard for me to find fault with my HEP/PMD/PinWerks restored cabinets…
Nevertheless, good luck with the new venture…would love to see one in person (pics don't do it justice).
Honestly, John, the pivot bolts that hold the playfield are my biggest issue. I don't feel the way they were done for the show will work but after explaining to my cabinet guy how they work, that's what he came up with. I've already talked to him about it and personally, I don't have an issue with the four larger bolts in the sides but he's one of those kind of guys that simply wants to figure out a way. Not sure yet what we'll come up with.
As for durability, I honestly couldn't tell you. By the time I'm done with this first one, it may not be usable. If that's the case, I'll take a hammer and screwdriver to it and see what happens.
Quoted from johnwartjr:I was mostly asking about durability, as I know how much stress and weight playfield slides hold, and I was trying to figure out how they would attach with no fasteners through the cabinet.
LOL I know exactly what your saying, but after seeing all the great comments about how a WOZ looks, we thought, what the hell. Why not try it with repro cabinets.
This still might be a brain fart, but it's a pretty brain fart.
Quoted from snaroff:Man, I'm one of the more anal collectors I know and I have to say that cabinet bolts never caused me to lose any sleep
Nevertheless, good luck with the new venture…would love to see one in person (pics don't do it justice).
Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:All I can say is that's not my immediate focus.
How about if I buy you a beer and slip you $5 under the table........is it now???? 
You might also have to include sexual favors. 
Quoted from meSz:How about if I buy you a beer and slip you $5 under the table........is it now????
You're going to have to give me another week or so. With the rain on Sunday, I wasn't able to bring it back with me. Charlie was nice enough to haul it back to his place. I'll be picking it up next weekend...as long as it's not raining.
Quoted from turbo20lbs:So all these posts and all we have is that one shitty pic still?
Bryan,
i have a truck going to the twin cities friday night/ saturday (april 25th and 26th).
if you can't figure things out with charlie see if you can someone get him to meet me in madison during the week and we can figure it out
Christopher
King Pin Games
Thanks, Chris, but it's a bit more complicated than that. I've also got an AFM I need to get to Ben Heck and he has a TOM that's coming to me. Our plan was to meet at Charlies and do the swap. He's got some things he needs to do on his game anyway. Let me think about it.
Quoted from KingPinGames:Bryan,
i have a truck going to the twin cities friday night/ saturday (april 25th and 26th).
if you can't figure things out with charlie see if you can someone get him to meet me in madison during the week and we can figure it out
Christopher
King Pin Games
Conquering the hideous problem of grotesque carriage bolts on pinball cabs. Yes, the pinball hobby has officially jumped the shark. smh
Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:LOL I know exactly what your saying, but after seeing all the great comments about how a WOZ looks, we thought, what the hell. Why not try it with repro cabinets.
This still might be a brain fart, but it's a pretty brain fart.
I'd much rather buy your cabinet than have to restore one, so I wouldn't call it a brain fart Bryan. I was actually wondering when someone would start emulating the WOZ cabinets. To me this is a no brainier. I'd standardize on your cabs for all my resto projects. Great work. I need a MB, SS, CFTBL, and TZ.
Flat pack option would be awesome
Mike, I have no doubt someone like yourself would have no issue assembling something like this. It's the do it yourselfer guy that really doesn't know what he's doing that concerns me.
I talked with my cabinet guy this weekend and we just don't like the idea of flat packs. It's not so much the shipping of the cleared panels as it would be the individual putting it together. I hate to say it, but I have this feeling there are those out there who, while attempting to assemble it, would damage a panel and guess who's getting an Email saying their panel was damaged? That would be me.
I'd also feel a lot better knowing the cabinet and head are assemble before shipping and will be done correctly.
Quoted from PinballMikeD:I'd much rather buy your cabinet than have to restore one, so I wouldn't call it a brain fart Bryan. I was actually wondering when someone would start emulating the WOZ cabinets. To me this is a no brainier. I'd standardize on your cabs for all my resto projects. Great work. I need a MB, SS, CFTBL, and TZ.
Flat pack option would be awesome
Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:Mike, I have no doubt someone like yourself would have no issue assembling something like this. It's the do it yourselfer guy that really doesn't know what he's doing that concerns me.
I talked with my cabinet guy this weekend and we just don't like the idea of flat packs. It's not so much the shipping of the cleared panels as it would be the individual putting it together. I hate to say it, but I have this feeling there are those out there who, while attempting to assemble it, would damage a panel and guess who's getting an Email saying their panel was damaged? That would be me.
I'd also feel a lot better knowing the cabinet and head are assemble before shipping and will be done correctly.
I hear ya.
When do you envision having MB units available?
Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:It's not so much the shipping of the cleared panels as it would be the individual putting it together. I hate to say it, but I have this feeling there are those out there who, while attempting to assemble it, would damage a panel and guess who's getting an Email saying their panel was damaged?
Whatever, my tools are ready to rock for flat pack assembly. Edit----Tony would make a great Proctologist.
No idea at all, Mike.
Quoted from PinballMikeD:I hear ya.
When do you envision having MB units available?
Quoted from PinballMikeD:I'd much rather buy your cabinet than have to restore one, so I wouldn't call it a brain fart Bryan. I was actually wondering when someone would start emulating the WOZ cabinets. To me this is a no brainier. I'd standardize on your cabs for all my resto projects. Great work. I need a MB, SS, CFTBL, and TZ.
Flat pack option would be awesome
If you're buying that many, make the drive up to MN and play some pinball!
Quoted from lordloss:If you're buying that many, make the drive up to MN and play some pinball!
I might do that
Anyway, I'll keep an eye on your thread Bryan regarding future cabs. Best of luck with this project. I think you'll do quite well with this venture. At the price you listed it's really a no brainer.
Quoted from centerflank:Whatever, my tools are ready to rock for flat pack assembly. Edit----Tony would make a great Proctologist.
Just grab onto the edge of this pinball cabinet... this might be a little uncomfortable 
FT cabinet was so beautiful. I wish you all the best on this endeavor BK!
Quoted from PinballKen:FT cabinet was so beautiful. I wish you all the best on this endeavor BK!
Me too! Hopefully the license headaches don't bog down your work.
I'll take the TZ prototype when you decide to do a widebody. You got a bunch of other shit to do to it anyway.
Just keep your friggin cheesy poof covered fingertips away from it when assembling. Still trying to get my truck clean from your cheese covered corn snack addiction.
If I work on your TZ, you'll pay me in Cheesy Puffs. Lots and lots of f'ing Cheesy Puffs.
Quoted from PinManV:I'll take the TZ prototype when you decide to do a widebody. You got a bunch of other shit to do to it anyway.
Just keep your friggin cheesy poof covered fingertips away from it when assembling. Still trying to get my truck clean from your cheese covered corn snack addiction.
I saw this at the show, and I must say it was VERY impressive. Well done, really looking forward to your progress.
How did you source the original art. Was it always a yellow/orange or would it have been more of a red/organe possibly?
This was our attempt at replacing the pivot nut carriage bolts with something that didn't require the bolts through the cabinet. My cabinet guy came up with a couple different options, none of which I thought would hold the weight of the playfield, so I came to the conclusion, there will have to be those four bolts through the cabinet.
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