Marco has a bunch of 26-1200. Might be able to call them with the dimensions and ask. When I called they were very helpful
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Quoted from Buzztime:Marco has a bunch of 26-1200. Might be able to call them with the dimensions and ask. When I called they were very helpful
So far I only needed the one coil because when I took it apart the coil fell and basically unraveled
I saw this post a while back:
twintiers.craigslist.org link
Also read somewhere you can unwind a few coils and resolder the wire back onto the contacts and see if it works
Quoted from PinDeLaPin:I couldn't find the coil for the score reels on marco or pinball life or even doing a google search. 3-26-1200 coil.
You're looking for Score Reel coils? I can send you 3 or 4 for a buck a piece plus shipping..
This pinhood is beyond filthy and has been lets say "Improvised" to keep working. I have taken 3 pin assemblies off now and 2 had nails through them holding the pins on. I can only imagine how the rest will look when I get to them. Good thing is they are looking real good after a nice warm bath in the ultrasonic cleaner.
20200418_141720 (resized).jpg20200418_141609 (resized).jpgSometimes I shake my head, and sometimes I'm the guy making a "quick fix" that I tell myself I'll get to later.
Glad you are taking the high road.
Walnutport, PA
Quoted from electricsquirrel:Man........do you ever sleep?
Let's just say I am more motivated on this project than most others I have laying around that are on my list to get done 
Quoted from electricsquirrel:This thing is really cool. I wish I had room for one.
There is a back story here to me obsessing over this machine. About 35 years ago when I was 10yrs old my dad would drag me to this little tavern where you could also buy beer to go. While he was waiting for his order to be ready I would get to play an old ball bowler which i'm pretty sure was a 20' machine because it seemed so far down to the pins. I always told myself one day I will get one of those and now that day has finally come and like I said I am seriously motivated. A lot of happiness for sure came from buying this machine and I am sure a lot of happiness will come from playing it with my wife and kiddos and friends. My only regret is I never got one in time to share that fun and reliv that tiny moment from so long ago with my father.
Quoted from DBLM:What are you drinking this time, pindelapin?
Just a little Bakers 8yr
Ok i'm going to give this a pending WooHoo! Pretty sure i'm 100% done now with the pinhood but when i reseated the armature into the motor it just didn't seem right. The metal wheel is spinning when i spin the toothed armature on top so fingers crossed i'm making something out of nothing. Hopefully Mopar will weigh in on this and let me know if I f....ed something up or not. Otherwise I will now be moving on to the components on the door.
20200419_151814 (resized).jpgQuoted from PinDeLaPin:when i reseated the armature into the motor it just didn't seem right.
Pindel, From that angle, I couldn't see the armature's tail, but that tail should spring out maybe about
5/16" When sticking out, the cam should turn freely. When the armature is inward (which it does when
energized) is when the armature should turn the cam (gear motor), and also the cam would have
quite a bit of resistance when turning by hand from the armature being in.
If the cam turns hard while the motor is in a resting position, then the armature must not be springing
out. The reason would be that the small spring at the other end inside of of the gear box must be out of
position..
Looks fantastic.
I'm jealous mine won't have that "bowler" look.
I'd bet you're enjoying this more than the shuffle project!
Quoted from RonSS:Looks fantastic.
I'm jealous mine won't have that "bowler" look.
I'd bet you're enjoying this more than the shuffle project!
Oh yeah this is way better than the shuffle alley. I was off last week so was able to really work at it but back to work this week. Will be just doing bits and pieces probably all week long.
Quoted from RonSS:What's your estimated ready to play this thing time frame?
Hmmm.. Well obviously I want this going asap but I am following @mopars advice to a T and being methodical with it. I don't think it is too far off to say I believe it will be up and running within the next 2 weeks. At this point the only things left to tackle are the components on the door and cleaning and lubricating the ball lift motor and assembly. I ordered a new set of pins for it also as the old ones were totally shot and they should be here by friday. I also ordered a new power cord and actually found a schematic for it on Marco so I grabbed that also. All in all I am very pleased where I am with it right now but of course I wish I was further along also. I am really striving for functionality first and then anything cosmetic will come 2nd. Long drawn out answer Ron but realistically I think within the 2 week window is where i'm hoping to land.
Quoted from RonSS:2 weeks is fantastic! That's a quick turn around in my book, especially doing it right!
Well Ron maybe I am being overly optimistic but I truly believe that I am in the home stretch at this point. While I am tentatively banking on 2 weeks it could be more that is possible. I may come across some things that need to be readjusted which should be completely expected. However all I am doing is thoroughly cleaning a very very filthy game, rebuilding all steppers and adjusting any switches and then reassembling. You have to remember that this game was 90% functional when I got it so it was not a complete wreck like the last one I did. There have been a few people who have chimed in and offered up some advice on a few issues but as I stated I would not be anywhere near where I am with this machine had I not had all the help of @mopar. He is a wealth of knowledge and has freely shared it with me which is what has allowed me to get this game up and running so quickly and I am forever thankful for the help of his and everyone else who has been so kind with their information. Nothing will bring me more joy than to post a fully functioning video of this machine as soon as it is done so keep your eyes open for a video and you will know it's done.
Well I ended up making good progress today after I finished up the flash motor I then got the spare stepper and the game selector unit and the frame control stepper done but ran out of time to finish the extra shots step up unit. That only leads me to finish up the extra shots stepper the score motor and the two banks of switches and to finish filing and cleaning the contacts and tightening the screws on all the switches and relays. Moving right along...
Quoted from PinDeLaPin:There is a back story here to me obsessing over this machine. About 35 years ago when I was 10yrs old my dad would drag me to this little tavern where you could also buy beer to go. While he was waiting for his order to be ready I would get to play an old ball bowler which i'm pretty sure was a 20' machine because it seemed so far down to the pins. I always told myself one day I will get one of those and now that day has finally come and like I said I am seriously motivated. A lot of happiness for sure came from buying this machine and I am sure a lot of happiness will come from playing it with my wife and kiddos and friends. My only regret is I never got one in time to share that fun and reliv that tiny moment from so long ago with my father.
Your father has a huge grin on his face, I am positive of that.
Ordered bulbs for the machine this morning and it's hard to believe but there are 162 bulbs in it plus 2 long fluorescent bulbs. Couldn't believe there was that many and had to count again to double check myself.
Quoted from PinDeLaPin:Ordered bulbs for the machine this morning and it's hard to believe but there are 162 bulbs in it plus 2 long fluorescent bulbs. Couldn't believe there was that many and had to count again to double check myself.
Funny was just telling my kid that the pitch and bat needed 114 bulbs Crazy
Quoted from bssbllr:Funny was just telling my kid that the pitch and bat needed 114 bulbs Crazy
Yeah when I folded the back glass down and saw all those bulbs I was absolutely amazed and then when I removed the lower back glass and counted 48 more I was really Blown Away! Oh well I'm going through this machine from top to bottom so whatever needs swapping out will get swapped out. I went with sunlight 2smd frosted kens bulbs from comet pinball.
You are doing a great job and I am having a good time watching the progress. I picked up the shuffle bowl that needs a going through which I am in the process to start. I’ve cleaned and dry lubed with Teflon all the mechanical switches on the alley which were rusty, so they took a bath in evaporust. Also the coin door and all hardware cleaned and dry lubed. So now just got my grease with Teflon from amazon to start cleaning s.u. And such.
Quoted from bssbllr:You are doing a great job and I am having a good time watching the progress. I picked up the shuffle bowl that needs a going through which I am in the process to start. I’ve cleaned and dry lubed with Teflon all the mechanical switches on the alley which were rusty, so they took a bath in evaporust. Also the coin door and all hardware cleaned and dry lubed. So now just got my grease with Teflon from amazon to start cleaning s.u. And such.
Do yourself a favor and go through it and clean everything and get it all done at one time so you don't have to come back later and mess with something that you didn't clean the first time
Quoted from PinDeLaPin:Do yourself a favor and go through it and clean everything and get it all done at one time so you don't have to come back later and mess with something that you didn't clean the first time
That’s what I’m planning on doing after following you. Like you already know there is a lot to go through but I have time. I also got a pitch and bat game a week later from the same guy as a gift so that was cool but it also is apart and getting cleaned up. So both are in the living room and dining room. Haha to the wife but she’s been good so far. With those two and a DH pinball I have a great place to put the three but like you said want them to be working good because it would be a pain to pull them out later and to keep messing with them.
Quoted from PinDeLaPin:So far I only needed the one coil because when I took it apart the coil fell and basically unraveled
As you learned those coils can come apart. A couple I had to clamp together while I had the mechs apart. Plus I learned to gently tug on the ends to see if it would pop apart and unwind - thus helping me figure if I could leave it dangling by it's wires.
Quoted from PM_Jeremy:As you learned those coils can come apart. A couple I had to clamp together while I had the mechs apart. Plus I learned to gently tug on the ends to see if it would pop apart and unwind - thus helping me figure if I could leave it dangling by it's wires.
Yeah it happened a few more times also. Luckily Mopar had some extras that I was able to buy off of him that just showed up today.
20200422_134036 (resized).jpgQuoted from RonSS:Wow man, you are kicking ass with this thing!
I'm giving it hell Ron
When I get to the ball lift motor assembly what exactly are the steps for getting it cleaned up? Are there any specific points that I should lube/grease and for the chain assembly anything special for that?
Quoted from PinDeLaPin:When I get to the ball lift motor assembly what exactly are the steps for getting it cleaned up? Are there any specific points that I should lube/grease and for the chain assembly anything special for that?
I plasti-dipped my "forks" that carry the ball as they had no soft coating, just metal.
Does your motor turn freely?
Quoted from RonSS:I plasti-dipped my "forks" that carry the ball as they had no soft coating, just metal.
Does your motor turn freely?
Yes it's fully functional and lifts the balls no problem and it's got some plastic tubing stuff around the forks so that part is good. I guess what I'm referring to is in the process of removing the motor and cleaning it up in general I wasn't sure if there was some specific spots to add oil or just the typical Armature parts and then as far as the chain assembly I can see it has grease on it I didn't know if there was a specific type of grease that anybody like to use for that purpose.
Quoted from PinDeLaPin:Old ball was missing a chunk the size of a dime[quoted image]
Oh, that's the professional ball. The divot is there so you can really put some spin on it
Glad to see that I’m not the only one who does that, except I only do that on EMs - I don’t have the room for a bowler.
One extra step I take though, is to use a meter on every set of contacts once I’ve completed a relay. I only find a bad one once in a awhile, but it dramatically improves my confidence on my work.
Love what you’re doing.
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