Played some games with these yesterday. First impressions weren't favorable. Shots felt awkward—backhands especially so. I actually was able (if you can call it that) to backhand a ball into a slingshot and out the opposite outlane and generally it seemed I was always pulling backhand shots. Traps seemed a little easier and spinning balls seemed to do fewer unpredictable things. Couldn't get a loop pass to work on any game with urethane flippers. The ball seems like it almost slides down the rubber when you drop the flipper as opposed to bouncing over. I have a bunch coming to try out and perhaps I can give a better description after I play some of my own games with these things.