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Retro Chip Tester

By PghPinballRescue

3 years ago


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    #2 3 years ago

    If you want one- i can send it on to you no problem

    #3 3 years ago

    i didnt until you pointed it out.
    if you want one get an account with planetexpress - they have a uk site

    #4 3 years ago

    Interesting. I may be interested in one if someone ships a handful of these overseas.

    #5 3 years ago

    Rob Anthony sells a unit very similar I think his does more look up lockwhenlit site very good price

    #6 3 years ago
    Quoted from diode:

    Rob Anthony sells a unit very similar I think his does more look up lockwhenlit site very good price

    That's the neoloch tester.

    There is a some overlap between the testers, but there are also some things that each tester can do that the other can't.

    #7 3 years ago
    Quoted from PghPinballRescue:

    Does anyone have on of these?
    https://www.silicon-ark.co.uk/retro-chip-tester-rct
    No shipping to the US for now.

    Interesting device. I'd like to get two of them if they can ship to the USA.

    #8 3 years ago

    Onboard socket for use with SD card adapter to allow for the storage of ROM contents.

    Interesting...that might make ROM dumping a quick & easy process.

    #9 3 years ago

    Cool.
    Does it automatically ID a chip or do you tell it what chip you are testing?
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    Chris Hibler - CARGPB #31
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    #10 3 years ago
    Quoted from ChrisHibler:

    Cool.
    Does it automatically ID a chip or do you tell it what chip you are testing?
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    Chris Hibler - CARGPB #31
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    There is mention of "the selected chip", so I assume at least for certain types chips you might have to select what you're testing.

    #11 3 years ago

    A Pinsider has taken me up on the offer..
    Or I could ship multiple to him and he could send out… if he is willing.

    Any one else?

    #12 3 years ago

    Sure. Why not. What is the price?

    Chris Hibler - CARGPB #31
    Http://chrishiblerpinball.com/contact
    http://www.PinWiki.com/ - The new place for pinball repair info

    #13 3 years ago

    I already have the Neoloch, but with development halted, I was looking for alternatives and I saw this.

    Neoloch is probably all I'll ever need, but this definitely looks interesting!

    #14 3 years ago

    Says 67 pounds so about 94$.

    I'd be interested in one as well.

    #15 3 years ago
    Quoted from slochar:

    Says 67 pounds so about 94$.
    I'd be interested in one as well.

    I want to buy two of them even though I already have the NeoLoch tester.

    How do I order and get shipped to the USA?

    #16 3 years ago

    I sent him an email, but he said he wont ship to USA anymore. Something about being sued.

    #17 3 years ago

    PghPinballRescue Argh....that is a shame. Thanks for the info.
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    Chris Hibler - CARGPB #31
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    #18 3 years ago

    United States isn't listed in the "ship to" drop down on his site. Too bad.
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    Chris Hibler - CARGPB #31
    http://ChrisHiblerPinball.com/Contact ... for board repairs
    http://www.PinWiki.com - The Place to go for Pinball Repair Info

    #19 3 years ago

    Maybe we can get a group-buy together with a 3rd party who is in his shipping location.

    #20 3 years ago

    I'd be down for one of these if they were ever brought state side.

    #21 3 years ago

    Very interesting!

    #22 3 years ago

    Boards in stock on Wednesday..

    Have one Pinsider I am sending to already..
    Anyone else want in?

    Could also ship to just 1 guy and they post on..

    Last offer..

    #23 3 years ago
    Quoted from Pinhead1982:

    Boards in stock on Wednesday..
    Have one Pinsider I am sending to already..
    Anyone else want in?
    Could also ship to just 1 guy and they post on..

    I'm the one that responded. I'm willing to be the USA go-between, but I'm not building them for you!

    If interested, please email direct (pinside messages will not be read or responded to).

    Joe (joemagiera at ameritech dot net)
    [email protected]

    #24 3 years ago

    Email sent Joe.

    Are these kits complete or would I need to source the components?

    #25 3 years ago

    You have to buy all of the components you need to assemble the boards.

    #26 3 years ago
    Quoted from KenLayton:

    You have to buy all of the components you need to assemble the boards.

    Is there a BOM? Any idea of a rough cost?

    #27 3 years ago

    email sent joemagiera .

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    Chris Hibler - CARGPB #31
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    #28 3 years ago

    Email sent as well @joemagiera.

    #29 3 years ago
    Quoted from KenLayton:

    You have to buy all of the components you need to assemble the boards.

    MAJOR key point there. I don't mind being the USA go between, but only for the board itself (or whatever else they include). You will still need to source the needed parts yourself and put it together yourself.

    My guess is $100 for the unit, $11 to reship from me to someone in the USA and guessing $10 more for the shipping from the UK to me (in the USA). I could be WAY off on the UK to USA shipping. I would expect that one shipped from the UK to USA would be like $25, but hopefully getting 5 or so shipped wouldn't be that much more than one.

    If interested, please email direct (pinside messages will not be read or responded to).

    Joe (joemagiera at ameritech dot net)
    [email protected]

    Added over 3 years ago:

    8-4-2021 update: You can order directly from the creator (see his responses in this thread). It will save significant shipping time and cost by cutting out several middle men. I have emailed all that responded to me with info. If you didn't get that email, please ping me and I'll resend. Otherwise, I am bowing out of being the USA re-shipper.

    #30 3 years ago

    email sent.

    #31 3 years ago

    I'm having some difficulty finding a BOM to put together a buy list.
    The parts are silkscreened onto the board, but a list of parts should surely be available somewhere.

    The other difficulty for most of us will be the loading the board software.
    It shouldn't be too difficult but someone would need to figure out how that is done.
    --
    Chris Hibler - CARGPB #31
    http://ChrisHiblerPinball.com/Contact ... for board repairs
    http://www.PinWiki.com - The Place to go for Pinball Repair Info

    #32 3 years ago

    According to the website, a BOM is included with the boards. Supposedly, the assembly manual includes a BOM, but I looked all through it and could not find it.

    The surface mount chip that comes already installed on the board is already flashed with the software. It is mentioned:

    "Supplied in "Bare Bones" format (main board PCB and Power PCB) for the home constructor to self build with the ATMega surface mount chip being pre soldered and pre-flashed...so only basic through hole soldering required for everthing else."

    This website also has information on the chip tester:

    https://8bit-museum.de/sonstiges/hardware-projekte/hardware-projekte-chip-tester-english/

    #33 3 years ago
    Quoted from KenLayton:

    According to the website, a BOM is included with the boards. Supposedly, the assembly manual includes a BOM, but I looked all through it and could not find it.
    The surface mount chip that comes already installed on the board is already flashed with the software.
    This website also has information on the chip tester:
    https://8bit-museum.de/sonstiges/hardware-projekte/hardware-projekte-chip-tester-english/

    It's their device so maybe going right to the source instead of the UK place?

    I just watched a video on this and thought it was pretty neat.

    #34 3 years ago
    Quoted from slicknick13:

    It's their device so maybe going right to the source instead of the UK place?
    .

    Might be the best choice. I wonder if they ship to the US?

    #35 3 years ago
    Quoted from KenLayton:

    According to the website, a BOM is included with the boards. Supposedly, the assembly manual includes a BOM, but I looked all through it and could not find it.
    The surface mount chip that comes already installed on the board is already flashed with the software. It is mentioned:
    "Supplied in "Bare Bones" format (main board PCB and Power PCB) for the home constructor to self build with the ATMega surface mount chip being pre soldered and pre-flashed...so only basic through hole soldering required for everything else."
    This website also has information on the chip tester:
    https://8bit-museum.de/sonstiges/hardware-projekte/hardware-projekte-chip-tester-english/

    I looked through the same manual and could not find the BOM either.
    I missed that the ATMega chip would be pre-flashed. Nice. Thank KenLayton
    --
    Chris Hibler - CARGPB #31
    http://ChrisHiblerPinball.com/Contact ... for board repairs
    http://www.PinWiki.com - The Place to go for Pinball Repair Info

    #36 3 years ago

    Here is the BOM in English, also posted on KLOV.
    Hope this helps.

    #37 3 years ago

    Hi,

    I am the dev of the RCT. When you have any questions I am happy to answer these.

    But I have one request: Please do not post any documents in a public forum. Anyone can download the manual (and supported IC lists) from my website. All other documents are updated frequently and it is not a good idea if old documents are lying around in some forums, which can lead to errors (incorrect ordering of components, incorrect expectations because something has changed, etc.).

    Therefore my request to SCUBAking to remove the BOM from both forums. On request, I will be happy to send you the current version personally.

    Many Thanks,
    Stephan aka slabbi (8bit-Museum.de)

    #38 3 years ago
    Quoted from slabbi:

    Hi,
    I am the dev of the RCT. When you have any questions I am happy to answer these.
    But I have one request: Please do not post any documents in a public forum. Anyone can download the manual (and supported IC lists) from my website. All other documents are updated frequently and it is not a good idea if old documents are lying around in some forums, which can lead to errors (incorrect ordering of components, incorrect expectations because something has changed, etc.).
    Therefore my request to SCUBAking to remove the BOM from both forums. On request, I will be happy to send you the current version personally.
    Many Thanks,
    Stephan aka slabbi (8bit-Museum.de)

    This is just my opinion, but I would suggest posting the BOM somewhere on your site for us to find. If its there, none of us could find it.

    I would hold off on buying one until I had an idea of what the parts would cost, what parts I already have on hand, and if there were any surprise parts in the list that were hard to find in the US.

    Having a Mouser shopping list would be ideal, as most of us in the US use them as a first line distributor. And even if we don't buy from them, we can print the list out and buy elsewhere or supply our own parts.

    #39 3 years ago

    Good point, I will make an overview about the required parts available.

    Update:
    Done. You can see which components are required.

    #40 3 years ago

    Also, let me be the first to say: thank you for developing this board.

    #41 3 years ago
    Quoted from PghPinballRescue:

    Also, let me be the first to say: thank you for developing this board.

    Thanks. But I wasn't as noble as it sounds. I developed the RCT out of self-interest. I have a fairly large collection of home computers and there is always something to do.

    #42 3 years ago

    I started a parts source and pricing spreadsheet today.
    Most of the parts can be found at least at GreatPlainsElectronics.
    Some will have to be sourced elsewhere. I'll check into those sources later.
    --
    Chris Hibler - CARGPB #31
    http://ChrisHiblerPinball.com/Contact ... for board repairs
    http://www.PinWiki.com - The Place to go for Pinball Repair Info

    #43 3 years ago

    Edit: Some folks were kind enough to point out a BOM list that someone has already put a lot of work into. It is complete and vetted so consider it a better source than what I put together. Find it here:
    https://www.digikey.com/short/vwfzb0bw

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    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Z8CvTjgb5S07UL8EXOOUbyMF-406Pzs6gT_eyx425sk/edit?usp=sharing

    Above is the link to a Google "sheet" that I started.

    I'm missing a source for some parts.
    I made some assumptions about part form factor (size, lead spacing, axial, radial, etc). These should be double-checked.
    There are probably cheaper suppliers but the total BOM right now is less than $50.
    I have not incorporated "bulk purchases". i.e. all quantities were "1".

    Feel free to update or correct the sheet.
    Rather than revising the sheet for an alternate source, add another line and call it "Alternate Source" or something like that.
    LMK if you have problems accessing the sheet.
    --
    Chris Hibler - CARGPB #31
    http://ChrisHiblerPinball.com/Contact ... for board repairs
    http://www.PinWiki.com - The Place to go for Pinball Repair Info

    #44 3 years ago

    ChrisHibler Great, thanks for the work, it is good to have another source for the components.

    Please note that for Reichelt (European distributor) and Digikey there are already lists available:
    https://www.digikey.de/short/vwfzb0bw
    https://www.reichelt.de/my/1859729

    #46 3 years ago

    So.....didn't have a chance to go thru the website this morning, but it do love new toys. What does this do that the neoloch tester doesn't?

    #47 3 years ago
    Quoted from Tallon:

    So.....didn't have a chance to go thru the website this morning, but it do love new toys. What does this do that the neoloch tester doesn't?

    Maybe you should check the manual:
    https://8bit-museum.de/sonstiges/hardware-projekte/hardware-projekte-chip-tester-english/
    It explains what the RCT can do for you

    #48 3 years ago

    slabbi and @wiredoug, thanks for those additional links. I wasn’t aware of them.

    It seems that finding information about this tester is a bit piecemeal.
    Hanging out on KLOV would have helped as the folks over there seemed to be up to speed on it.


    Chris Hibler - CARGPB #31
    Http://chrishiblerpinball.com/contact
    http://www.PinWiki.com/ - The new place for pinball repair info

    #49 3 years ago
    Quoted from ChrisHibler:

    It seems that finding information about this tester is a bit piecemeal.

    I see it as grassroots "actually fun" project instead of just "paint by numbers". Lots of love for slabbi for taking the time to come here and guide us on his project.

    Im looking forward to ordering mine when it gets to the uk.

    #50 3 years ago
    Quoted from wiredoug:

    I see it as grassroots "actually fun" project instead of just "paint by numbers". Lots of love for slabbi for taking the time to come here and guide us on his project.

    Definitely.
    I've edited my prior post and included a note in the Google "sheet" that I created.

    I'll use DigiKey for some parts. GPE is my normal go-to for parts. The support that Ed provides to the pinball community is of great value. I like to reward that. Not lobbying...and YMMV as always.
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    Chris Hibler - CARGPB #31
    http://ChrisHiblerPinball.com/Contact ... for board repairs
    http://www.PinWiki.com - The Place to go for Pinball Repair Info

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