Lightning Ball
Gottlieb, 1959hi I am a newbie to pinside and have just got my hands on my first pinball machine, its need to be brought back to life. I have a few tech question about the machine to get it working again. I will post some pics for you guys to see the insides and what the problem might be.
Quoted from wez:hi I am a newbie to pinside and have just got my hands on my first pinball machine, its need to be brought back to life. I have a few tech question about the machine to get it working again. I will post some pics for you guys to see the insides and what the problem might be.
Welcome aboard.
You might want to post tech questions in the "EM Tech" sub forum of this forum you posted to.
thanks for the welcome. i'm trying to upload pics but it won't work, what format and max size must the file be to upload?
Quoted from wez:thanks for the welcome. i'm trying to upload pics but it won't work, what format and max size must the file be to upload?
Are you using the manually select files(s) to upload option at the bottom?
Quoted from wez:thanks for the welcome. i'm trying to upload pics but it won't work, what format and max size must the file be to upload?
Quoted from wez:i'm trying to upload pics but it won't work
This site seems to work best with Chrome.
here's a pic ,where the extra chute relay is missing and they connected some wires together. will i need this relay to get the machine to work. what do you guys think?
Do you have a schematic? If not, you need to order one from www.pbresource.com
Read this:
http://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=EM_Repair#Gottlieb.C2.AE_Score_Motor
match it up to your schematic and you can figure out where to put your switch stack.
Regarding your extra chute relay - my gut feel is that you are OK for now. It looks like your bus wires are twisted together, so you don't have a break in the feed lines. You won't have "extra chute" function, but you probably want to be on free play anyway.
If you're going to leave those wires like they are, insulate them somehow. A bit of tape temporary, just so they can't short.
Those switches by the score motor might have been to pulse the replay unit for multiple games per coin through the extra chute. You need to see if there is a card stapled on the cabinet side by the score motor. If there is, it will tell you what the various score motor switches do. If there isn't a card, are there staples which once attached one? You need a schematic anyway. I'm not sure on a game that old where the score motor switch description is. I know it's on the cabinet side on my 1962 game.
thanks for your help nick.
what do you guyz think of the wires that are connected to the score motor?
in the pic where the chute relay is missing, the two wires ,red and black where connected together with a thin piece of wire and the score motor spun ,when i took the two apart ,the motor would stop. should i reconnect them?
another thing i noticed ,was the reset relay would engage and stay like that while the score motor ran all the time.
i'm relying on you guyz with your past experience fixing pins to try and help me get this machine working again, i dont have any schematics ,i live in south africa and buy them from a sorce in the usa is a mission.
Mate, order one from the pinball resource. You'll be lucky to get a Gottlieb schematic without buying one, they're licensed.
Normally the reset relay is energised whilst the game resets. When reset is complete, it de energises.
You can see a description of the start up sequence here.
http://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=EM_Repair#Start_Up_Sequences
Mate, on the hundred thousand unit, I can see two wiper snow shoes connected together and to a rivet. The other end of the wiper, is there one that is connected to nothing. It's hard to tell from the image? I see a wire from one to the rivet, I can't see a wire to the other.
No mate, I can see the wires now, it all looks like it's original. Couldn't see one wire in the previous images. You really need to order a schematic from somebody, I suggest PBR. It's going to be awfully hard to sort your game without one. At around $16 plus shipping, the information one contains is for nothing. A working game + a few Dollars versus something to look at for sod all.
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In this image, front right snow shoe doesn't look lined up with the rivet very well, all the others do. Need to check it, it's so hard to tell from pictures.
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