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Restoring a Bally Knockout.....getting it off the canvas

By slghokie

2 years ago


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#1 2 years ago

Picked up a Bally Knockout from a friend and it was in rough shape with missing parts, cabinet painted over, head damage, and no back glass. Figured I would document as I went to see if we can get it off the canvas and make sure it is not down for the count. Here is how I got it.....

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#2 2 years ago
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#3 2 years ago

Known missing items after inspection:

Shots to the body:
G Relay (I think this is the one in front of the score motor)
Transformer 122-95
Both rails and glass guides
Glass receiver above the arch
Flipper buttons and flipper switches
Chimes
Glass
Legs
Repainted with stars but the cabinet has the original underneath
Center kickout coil assembly
1 flipper bat and much of both flipper assemblies
Lockdown receiver and lockdown bar

Shots to the head:
Back glass
Multiple score reels missing
Paint does not match the repaint on the cab or the known Knockout art. Either they repainted or was a head of another machine perhaps? If anyone knows what it came from would be appreciated.

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#4 2 years ago

Jets_1479 and pinhead52 both helped me obtain parts for the missing score reels. Including the backbox contents from an Aladdin's Castle (also 2 player and similar timeframe). Gonna print off that schematic so I can do surgery at some point. Need to source the transformer and what I believe is the G Relay.

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#5 2 years ago

This will be a great victory when complete. Good luck!

#6 2 years ago

Kruzman has a NOS playfield for sale.

John

#7 2 years ago

So much further from my skill level.
Will be watching!

#8 2 years ago

I have a big Ole box of Bally parts from a scrapped EM . I will look later today and see.

#9 2 years ago
Quoted from chad:

I have a big Ole box of Bally parts from a scrapped EM . I will look later today and see.

Thank you chad

#10 2 years ago
Quoted from Dayhuff:

Kruzman has a NOS playfield for sale.
John

Thank you @dayhuff, I will look into that. There was also one on EBAY recently. The one I have looks decent and should cleanup

#11 2 years ago

Just did a visual compare on KO VS Aladdin's Castle and certainly feature differences so surgery to fix the reels and other missing relays will be fun....

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#12 2 years ago

Watching!

#13 2 years ago

Do you have a picture of the "G" relay? None of mine are labeled.

#14 2 years ago
Quoted from chad:

Do you have a picture of the "G" relay? None of mine are labeled.

chad I was guessing it was G based on a Bally parts catalog photo. If I compare mine to what should be there.....
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#15 2 years ago

What is missing is the Game Over relay / trip relay assembly.

#16 2 years ago
Quoted from Skidave:

What is missing is the Game Over relay / trip relay assembly.

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Thank you Skidave !

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#17 2 years ago

Thanks to James on Ebay I got a major missing piece...the transformer, and the receiver/lockdown bar.

And my buddy Brian had the kickout hole mech.

Just need the G relay for the bottom board and one of the steppers is likely missing parts. But with the transformer I can at least check if I can get 6v and solenoid voltage.

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#18 2 years ago

I was just at Graceland a week ago but couldn't see the playfield condition but I'm sure that one was nice since the cabinet sure was.

John

#19 2 years ago

Is there a G-relay on Aladdin's Castle relay board? I may be able to help if so.

#20 2 years ago
Quoted from play_pinball:

Is there a G-relay on Aladdin's Castle relay board? I may be able to help if so.

play_pinball it looks like it is behind the score motor on AC..

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#21 2 years ago

Inspected the steppers. Bonus under the playfield, I believe ball count in the head, match looks gutted, and the bottom board had the center lane and hole steppers. Need to check the Aladdin's Castle wiring and see if match is on it.

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