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Restoring a 1955 United Capitol Shuffle alley


By Jaymach1

3 years ago



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    #1 3 years ago

    Just picked up this shuffle alley. I'm trying to restore it for a Xmas present for my daughter. Overall it's in good shape. All of the mechanicals are in good working order except for the burnt out start relay(new one on the way). My biggest issue so far is the fact that I'm missing a pin. I didn't realize these were so hard to get but I'm a newb to this.

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    #2 3 years ago

    Looks nice, good luck on your restore.

    #3 3 years ago

    Where have you looked for a replacement pin?

    #4 3 years ago

    Worst comes to worst just swap it with one in the back - the puck never actually needs to hit the pins of course, so it's purely cosmetic and the game will/should operate fine without it.

    #5 3 years ago

    I've looked everywhere, contacted a few shops. Good idea with moving it to the back. I can always do that until I finally find one. I'll keep updating the progress as it happens.

    #6 3 years ago

    Started making some templates tonight so I can recreate the original artwork.

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    #7 3 years ago

    A couple more before pics

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    #8 3 years ago

    I have a 1956 United Handicap and could not find any pins either.
    Mine are mounted to a round pin held on by 2 E-clips.
    I would love that coin return piece. I wonder if you could get a close up photo ?
    Also, What is the O.D. of your puck ? I have heard there were different sizes, but there is very little information as to what those actual sizes were. I did not think so, but after I finished the restoration, it gets a lot of play.
    GOOD LUCK and ENJOY.

    #9 3 years ago

    Try Suzo-Happ.

    #10 3 years ago

    Thanks OCD. From What Ive read there are 3 size pucks, 2 1/4 2 3/4 And 2 7/8. I believe the small one is correct for our year games. Here are some pics, hope they help. I will try suzo-happ today. Thanks again

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    #11 3 years ago

    St louis ball bowlers

    They might have what youre looking for

    -Jeff

    #12 3 years ago

    Ya I contacted them, they did have the bow tie gears for the pins which I needed but no pins. The search continues.

    #13 3 years ago

    OCD. I took off the coin return today and there is a pin # on the back (DC-2765 2749) . Hope it helps in your search.

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    #14 3 years ago

    Here's something that "grinds my gears" as the family guy would say. A full set of the pins I'm looking for used as a chandelier. Grrr

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    #15 3 years ago

    What size pins do you need? (Length and how the connect to the mech)

    #16 3 years ago
    Quoted from Jaymach1:

    Here's something that "grinds my gears" as the family guy would say. A full set of the pins I'm looking for used as a chandelier. Grrr

    Yep, those are the pins!

    #17 3 years ago

    I need the 8.5 inch pins made in the mid 50s

    Quoted from bintzknocker:What size pins do you need? (Length and how the connect to the mech)

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    #18 3 years ago

    Ah, I can't help ya with that size. They pop up on ebay every once in a while

    #19 3 years ago
    Quoted from bintzknocker:

    Ah, I can't help ya with that size. They pop up on ebay every once in a while

    Ya I keep checking. I'll find them eventually

    #20 3 years ago

    Hers a little progress on the game. Coin door done. A little before and after. Wood is just sanded, no poly yet. Working on the pin hood now, almost finished.

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    #21 3 years ago
    Quoted from Jaymach1:

    Hers a little progress on the game. Coin door done. A little before and after. Wood is just sanded, no poly yet. Working on the pin hood now, almost finished.

    Nice work!

    #22 3 years ago

    Looks great! Hopefully you find the pins!

    #23 3 years ago

    Thanks guys, been a lot of fun so far

    #24 3 years ago

    nice job on that door!
    Love them 50's united shuffles!

    #25 3 years ago

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    #26 3 years ago

    Does anyone know what this bar is called that crosses near the middle of the alley? I have the bar near the pins that I'm guessing is to keep a wobbling puck from hitting the pins. I'd like to find this other bar but have no idea how to search for one or if it's a waste of time to try and find it. Thanks

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    #27 3 years ago

    You might try Chris at St. Louis Ball Bowlers. They restore ball bowlers as well as puck shuffle alleys.

    #28 3 years ago
    Quoted from Budman:

    You might try Chris at St. Louis Ball Bowlers. They restore ball bowlers as well as puck shuffle alleys.

    OK, thanks I will

    #29 3 years ago

    Finished the hood tonight, came out really nice. I stayed mostly true to the original artwork. A few minor changes. That was supposed to be before and after, not the other way around. Lol oh well

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    #30 3 years ago
    Quoted from Jaymach1:

    Does anyone know what this bar is called that crosses near the middle of the alley? I have the bar near the pins that I'm guessing is to keep a wobbling puck from hitting the pins. I'd like to find this other bar but have no idea how to search for one or if it's a waste of time to try and find it. Thanks

    I call it the foul line bar. You notice it's right above the foul line on the playfield. I think it was to stop your hand going past the foul line = no cheating.

    The bar near the front of the pins was actually the lead edge of a piece of plexiglass that covered the switches. Protected the pins, maybe, but I think it was another anti cheat device so you could'nt trip the switches manually.

    The last piece to the puzzle is the pin surround/protector. It was an integral part of the assembly and prevented the dreaded pin assembly droop you see on so many of these old games. The surround attached to the lift up cover, and rested against the left and right rear uprights, and on top of the plexiglass switch protector when in the down position. This gave support to the cover, and then that screw through the top cover would give support to the pin rack , thus preventing any sagging of the pin rack.

    Foul line bar.
    I was missing mine, just made one out of 1/4 inch brass rod from Menards, fabricated two brackets, painted gold, done.

    #31 3 years ago
    Quoted from OCD_pinball:

    I call it the foul line bar. You notice it's right above the foul line on the playfield. I think it was to stop your hand going past the foul line = no cheating.
    The bar near the front of the pins was actually the lead edge of a piece of plexiglass that covered the switches. Protected the pins, maybe, but I think it was another anti cheat device so you could'nt trip the switches manually.
    The last piece to the puzzle is the pin surround/protector. It was an integral part of the assembly and prevented the dreaded pin assembly droop you see on so many of these old games. The surround attached to the lift up cover, and rested against the left and right rear uprights, and on top of the plexiglass switch protector when in the down position. This gave support to the cover, and then that screw through the top cover would give support to the pin rack , thus preventing any sagging of the pin rack.
    Foul line bar.
    I was missing mine, just made one out of 1/4 inch brass rod from Menards, fabricated two brackets, painted gold, done.

    Thanks Again OCD, really apprecite the input.

    #32 3 years ago

    So my back glass is missing paint in a few spots and cracked and peeling in others. I was thinking of fixing it on photoshop and having it printed out on a thin piece of plexiglass and then sandwich it with another thin piece of plexiglass. After that was done I was going to send out the original to bgresto when I have the time. Any thoughts on if the plexiglass idea will work for now. I've been fixing it in photoshop all night and still a bit to go. I'll post the photoshop repaired version when I finish.

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    #33 3 years ago

    Starting to put some parts back together. Replaced the broken bowtie gear on the 1 pin. Found it at St Louis Ball bowler company. Still searching for a couple pins but still hopeful. I've been "fixing" my back glass on photoshop. I probably have more hours into that than anything else at this point.

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    #34 2 years ago

    Almost done, still need to make a plexiglass pin guard. A few more scoring reels to take apart and clean too. Made some brand new oak legs last night and having a new backglass printed today. Here is a preview the printshop printed out on posterboard for me to take home and see if it matched up. The photoshopping on the backglass took me longer than any part of this restoration.

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    #35 2 years ago

    Beautiful work!

    If you have the time, would it be possible to give a more detailed description of the process you followed by fixing the backglass in photoshop? I have never seen this done before (typical newb) and am intrigued. The print you in the final picture looks great.

    Thanks for sharing your project.
    Brad

    #36 2 years ago

    Nice job on the cab, hood, and legs!
    ok on the bg redo too, cept the top blue is too dark. shud look like the blue at bottom.
    still, tho, nice photoshop work!

    #37 2 years ago
    Quoted from bek1966:

    Beautiful work!
    If you have the time, would it be possible to give a more detailed description of the process you followed by fixing the backglass in photoshop? I have never seen this done before (typical newb) and am intrigued. The print you in the final picture looks great.
    Thanks for sharing your project.
    Brad

    Ya I changed the colors a little on the top. First step was to take out the glass, then put white paper behind it so the areas that needed to be fixed showed up. Then I took a bunch of hi res pics with a dslr camera, loaded them on my computer then used photoshop to "fix" the areas that had flaked off and recreate it to mostly original condition. Then I put the final fixed image on a thumb drive and dropped it off at my local printshop. I also dropped off a thin sheet of plexiglass that they are going to adhere the vinyl sticker to. When I get it back tomorrow I'm going to put another piece of plexiglass over that piece so it looks like it's printed behind the glass like original. I'd like to get it eventually remade at bgresto.com but for now this will work and all together only cost me about $75 and my time. The photoshopping does take forever though. I had quite a few hours into it.

    #38 2 years ago

    Looking beautiful Jason, really nice. Can't wait to see the finished product..
    OCD, I have 3 United Handicaps (one for parts) and I think I have an extra
    coin return cup. I can check once some of this snow melts down..
    My Handicap glass was usable, but did have issues and my second Handicap
    is really nice, but had no glass, so I had that glass made. It came out nice.
    Jason, it'll be nice if you could take a snap the moment your daughter
    sees the Capitol.. (T)

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    #39 2 years ago

    That glass looks awesome Mopar! Did you have it done at bgresto or somewhere else? I battled the plexiglass pin surround tonight and I think I won. Wish I went with a little bit thicker plexiglass but I'm pretty happy with the result. It's still cloudy because the protective film is still on it.

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    #40 2 years ago

    NICE, VERY NICE.

    #41 2 years ago

    The glass shield came out nice. Years back I used 1/8" plexi and had to heat it so it would bend without
    breaking. Since, I've been using what is known as 60 thousands lexsand. Its lexsand that's about 1/16"
    thick and works beautifully. It bends to a very tight circle without breaking..
    The glass I had done with my Graphic Designer. He digitizes it and then puts it in reverse on clear vinyl
    so when stuck on the back of the glass, it's facing properly..
    I had the Small Ball United "Bowling Alley" glass done also.. I restored many United Bowling Alleys which is
    why I looked for something other than plexy, and the 1/16" lexsand nicely did the trick..
    BTW, this is Tim Jason. That's why I know your Daughter will be pleasantly surprised when she first sees
    the Capitol.. (I believe lexsand is spelled wrong, but that's pretty much how it's pronounced).

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    #42 2 years ago
    Quoted from Mopar:

    The glass shield came out nice. Years back I used 1/8" plexi and had to heat it so it would bend without
    breaking. Since, I've been using what is known as 60 thousands lexsand. Its lexsand that's about 1/16"
    thick and works beautifully. It bends to a very tight circle without breaking..
    The glass I had done with my Graphic Designer. He digitizes it and then puts it in reverse on clear vinyl
    so when stuck on the back of the glass, it's facing properly..
    I had the Small Ball United "Bowling Alley" glass done also.. I restored many United Bowling Alleys which is
    why I looked for something other than plexy, and the 1/16" lexsand nicely did the trick..
    BTW, this is Tim Jason. That's why I know your Daughter will be pleasantly surprised when she first sees
    the Capitol.. (I believe lexsand is spelled wrong, but that's pretty much how it's pronounced).

    Lol, hey Tim. Ya your backglasses look great. I had to use a heat gun to get the bend in the plexiglass for the pin surround . It was kind of a pain but came out nice. A few more score reels left and put the pins back in and I'm pretty much done. Just waiting on the new #s for the pins. I'll send you a pic when it's done.

    #43 2 years ago

    Well I'm just about finished. The scoring on this machine was a little confusing to figure out because you also have to time your shots for the highest score. The frames only advance after a miss. If you throw a strike or a spare you keep shooting. Im not sure if this is correct or not. What do you guys think? Besides that, the game seems to work 100% except for a couple lights that don't fully illuminate sometimes.

    #44 2 years ago

    Finally put the backglass back in

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    #45 2 years ago

    That is a beautiful resto you have completed-congrats

    #46 2 years ago

    Nice job Jason, very nice. Are the pins on with the numbers, or not quite yet?
    So you have a Speed Bowler (or that's what Bally called theirs). Not only
    accuratecy, but also timing is the key. I never new United put out a Speed type
    Bowler..
    I'd say keep shooting could be how it's might to be played, but I take it that there's no
    adjustment (United used the type that turns with a screwdriver) for keep shooting or regular play,
    right? It does kinda interest me that the 2nd Shot Relay doesn't energize while shooting an open.
    I'll shoot a quick email.. It does look nice in that Room.. (T)

    #47 2 years ago

    Correction, I meant to say that it kinda surprises me that the 2nd Shot Relay only energizes
    while shooting an open, which could be the way it's meant to be played. Ballys Speed Bowler
    played without that feature..
    Out late last night. I need to reread before I send (or at least this morning I need to).. (T)

    #49 2 years ago

    Thanks Tim and dasvis. Ya I am wondering
    if that's how it is supposed to work. If you remember I also have the other skill jack. I'm going to move the plug to the non skill side and see what the difference is when I get home from work later. I am putting the pins on tonight, the numbers i ordered haven't been delivered yet. If they aren't there when I get home I'll just put the pins on without them. I figured it would be easier to apply the numbers with the pins off the machine. Oh well

    #50 2 years ago
    Quoted from wayner:

    That is a beautiful resto you have completed-congrats

    Thanks Wayner

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