#10 ?!?!? fack. I had mine done in '94 and it still sucked and I was young, knees suck, I prob don't need to tell you that.....
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Glad to see you up and going again moving forward on this. That speaker panel look amazing! Cannot wait to see it all lit up and running. Who did you use for the new speaker panel?
Walnut Creek, CA
Quoted from PinDeLaPin:Glad to see you up and going again moving forward on this. That speaker panel look amazing! Cannot wait to see it all lit up and running. Who did you use for the new speaker panel?
Thanks man. So I was able to dig up a nos speaker panel!! Found it on eBay
Quoted from Soulrider911:Ya I got taken out knee surgery #10... no bueno I mean it could always be worse I could not have a leg, but shoot... it’s rough
Been there done that! try the "ice man" .... helped recovery time and pain on my knee and shoulder surgeries...
2 weeks later
Budapest
Been a while but finally got the last major component for the restore... the cabinet from Paul at Virtuapin and boy what a beauty it is, well worth the wait.
THe old and new side by side. The old one actually didn't have too bad of fading. But the new is blue throughout aside from the bottom instide and it looks amazing.
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First started on getting the backbox together. was pretty painless, just had to drill for the gi light panel mounts. Other then that went pretty smooth.
All the boards have been repaired to better than new by @chrishibler, he does such great work.
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waterfall light boards mounted
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new fuse list decal, and lock installed
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cleaned and new sticker on the GI panel
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boards and knocker in (still need to mount LED OCD and waterfall boards)
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gi board is in, topped off with chrome trim for the light boards!
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Backbox all finished!
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Cabinet ground braid in, and speaker mounted
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Next, rebuild the power box, no clutter here lol
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on/off switch wired in and female connector with new jumpers done
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All done! Time to install
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Power box in!
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Line filter box in
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Power cord cover on, and brand new power cord.
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Next installing the LED buttons
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Till next time, this project is finally feeling like its on the downhill 
Saskatoon, SK
this is insane! I hope the Sasquatch Spotlight (https://goo.gl/D42gZr) lives up to your expectations.
Quoted from DW3000:Wow, looks great!
Where did you get the fuse decal in the backbox? I’ve been trying to hunt down one of those and haven’t found who makes them yet.
My guess is he gets them from Soulrider911
cosmokramer
I can make you one or a few if you would like DW3000
Thankyou zene10 I can’t wait to see your amazing mod in action !
Quoted from dmacy:Man, that cabinet is stunning! Been enjoying the thread; thank you!
Thanks man, yes they did an amazing job
Quoted from Soulrider911:Thanks man, yes they did an amazing job
Great work so far soulrider. Fun to watch. I am in Marin so we are pretty close.
I don't know if the information is generally out there, but what does a complete ready to go cabinet like that cost?
Dave
Calipindave I would ask
cosmokramer he does amazing cabinets, mine came from virtuapin I think it was roughly 1100.00
Quoted from Soulrider911:calipindave I would ask cosmokramer he does amazing cabinets, mine came from virtuapin I think it was roughly 1100.00
That seems quite reasonable.
Dave
Holy cow @soulrider911 you have been busy making some awesome progress. It's all coming together now and looking fantastic as well.
Quoted from Ericc123:This is incredibly impressive. I can't wait to see the finished project.
I second that. Attention to detail here is amazing. Love the small things like the chrome pieces inside the cabinet.
@ Soulrider911 ...would you mind letting us know where you sourced that black sheathing that you're using on your wiring harness? I'm in the middle of a pretty meticulous resto on an older Ford truck and I really don't want to go back to the cheap plastic loom that the factory used. Underhood temps make the lifespan of that around 2 years!
Quoted from CubeSnake:@ Soulrider911 ...would you mind letting us know where you sourced that black sheathing that you're using on your wiring harness? I'm in the middle of a pretty meticulous resto on an older Ford truck and I really don't want to go back to the cheap plastic loom that the factory used. Underhood temps make the lifespan of that around 2 years!
Yes! So it’s called “braided split loom”, works great I have used it on cars, motorcycles and now pins haha! It comes in different weaves, colors, diameters, and thickness. The stuff I’m using here was from amazon I think
Alex Tech 10ft - 1/2 inch Cord Protector Wire Loom Tubing Cable Sleeve Split Sleeving for USB Charger Cable Power Cord Audio Video Cable – Protect Cat Dog Pets from Chewing Cords - Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FW3GTXB/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_AxptCb19N32WZ
Beautiful progress. One sweet game!
I didn't read all 222 posts. I'm wondering if the 3D translites ever came to fruition.
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Quoted from ChrisHibler:Beautiful progress. One sweet game!
I didn't read all 222 posts. I'm wondering if the 3D translites ever came to fruition.
Another Fun weekend in the garage drinking coffee and working away on Whitewater. The cabinet interior is really starting to look like a pinball machine. Almost ready to drop the playfield in.
This chrome looks like liquid metal "get to da Raft" - in Arnold voice
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Replaced the fliptronic opto interrupters, they were pretty hammered.
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Wrapping the cabinet harness in split loom, going to look super clean in here
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I should have done this on all my restores, looks so much better.
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Wire guides installed looking clean!
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New coin door about to go in!
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Lockdown bar with my favorite decal from Titan_Pinball
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just need to get a new plumb bob and this is done
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The must-have boulder shooter... though my friend said it looked like a wad of chewed gum hahahah
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Got my awesome Bigfoot mod in thanks so much to the amazing work and documentation by @zene10.
The Bigfoot spotlight
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One of two hotfoot mode lights
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And added the - controversial - inner cab art. Personally, this game has one of the best “worlds under glass” and the side art significantly adds to that
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Well major snag in the build. So I got the side rails on, playfield in - ya playfield supports where backwards duh...
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Then I was test fitting glass, and noticed a major discrepancy.
The glass would not “sit” in the guides at the base, the guides where too far apart, hmm... you had to carefully hold the glass until it sat in the rails about 10” up from the base of the glass guides.
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Ok, so that’s not right. Next try to test fit the lockdown bar... no go, so I bent the ears a little bit, which sometime you have to do as chrome adds thickness. I then tried to install it again gave a little push... “crrraaack” both side rails chrome cracked, dunzo.
So brief panick attack and then got out the measuring tape.
Back is 22” on the dot
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Front is 22 1/8” there it is, I have a trapezoid
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So I contact Paul at virtualpin, and I must say, that guy is a stand up customer focused businessman. He is not only going to build be a new lower cab, he is also going to pay for the damaged side rails. As much as all of this is unfortunate, knowing he is taking care of me makes this all just a minor bump in the process. Onward!
I have always wondered how the side rails attach, as mine is loose on one side. Other than the one bolt, is it double sided tape? Is there a certain type or thickness recommended?
@poleposition yes double sided tape, if to do remove them you will most likely want a chisel, heat gun and lots of patients if you need to remove them. Also it’s veey hard to fully remove them without damaging them, but it can be done. Most likely what is loose is that plastic guide under the metal trim?
I put mine back on with double sided gorilla tape. you could pull a car - bumper to bumper with that stuff!!
Also, I used a long knife and pulled it over and over again in the same direction under the rail, worked well.
Quoted from Soulrider911:Well major snag in the build. So I got the side rails on, playfield in - ya playfield supports where backwards duh...
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Then I was test fitting glass, and noticed a major discrepancy.
The glass would not “sit” in the guides at the base, the guides where too far apart, hmm... you had to carefully hold the glass until it sat in the rails about 10” up from the base of the glass guides.
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Ok, so that’s not right. Next try to test fit the lockdown bar... no go, so I bent the ears a little bit, which sometime you have to do as chrome adds thickness. I then tried to install it again gave a little push... “crrraaack” both side rails chrome cracked, dunzo.
So brief panick attack and then got out the measuring tape.
Back is 22” on the dot
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Front is 22 1/8” there it is, I have a trapezoid
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So I contact Paul at virtualpin, and I must say, that guy is a stand up customer focused businessman. He is not only going to build be a new lower cab, he is also going to pay for the damaged side rails. As much as all of this is unfortunate, knowing he is taking care of me makes this all just a minor bump in the process. Onward!
Wow that really sucks but super cool that the seller is going to remedy the problem. Always good to hear about stand up people in the business!
Quoted from Soulrider911:@poleposition yes double sided tape, if to do remove them you will most likely want a chisel, heat gun and lots of patients if you need to remove them. Also it’s veey hard to fully remove them without damaging them, but it can be done. Most likely what is loose is that plastic guide under the metal trim?
The metal trim is loose, but it may be the plastic guide as well. Near the backbox, I can tap on the side rail and it will move in and out about 1/8" to 3/16". Now that I know its held in place with double sided tape, I can try to gentle remove it without damage. Its just the back half of one side, so I'll want to avoid any cab or rail damage hopefully.
Thanks!
Quoted from Soulrider911:Well major snag in the build. So I got the side rails on, playfield in - ya playfield supports where backwards duh...
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Then I was test fitting glass, and noticed a major discrepancy.
The glass would not “sit” in the guides at the base, the guides where too far apart, hmm... you had to carefully hold the glass until it sat in the rails about 10” up from the base of the glass guides.
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Ok, so that’s not right. Next try to test fit the lockdown bar... no go, so I bent the ears a little bit, which sometime you have to do as chrome adds thickness. I then tried to install it again gave a little push... “crrraaack” both side rails chrome cracked, dunzo.
So brief panick attack and then got out the measuring tape.
Back is 22” on the dot
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Front is 22 1/8” there it is, I have a trapezoid
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So I contact Paul at virtualpin, and I must say, that guy is a stand up customer focused businessman. He is not only going to build be a new lower cab, he is also going to pay for the damaged side rails. As much as all of this is unfortunate, knowing he is taking care of me makes this all just a minor bump in the process. Onward!
Thanks for posting this info. I’m going to be buying a cabinet from Paul in the near future and it’s great to hear that he stands behind his work.
Hmmm, thats weird...it looks like 22 1/32" (almost looks like 22 1/16) in the rear and 22 1/8" in the front, only 3/32" difference...Im suprised you are having difficulty as I have had some customers have me build a few cabs at 22 1/8" so they can put in mirror blades with no issues...
I wonder if the chrome adds that much thickness?
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Im glad you are getting a replacement with no issues, Paul is a stand up guy
cosmokramer ya it’s kinda crazy how much that additional 1/8 adds. I mean I can’t fit ANY lockdown bar on even with no rails... unless it’s oretty significantly bent. I tried 3.
Quoted from Soulrider911:cosmokramer ya it’s kinda crazy how much that additional 1/8 adds. I mean I can’t fit ANY lockdown bar on even with no rails... unless it’s oretty significantly bent. I tried 3.
Well, your work looks incredible, every one you do looks better than the last...I can't wait to see the end result
Thanks so much cosmokramer means a lot coming from you.
2 months later
Well another long but enjoyable day in the garage. got the main harness swapped over to the new playfield and a whole bunch of other stuff
Painting all the bolts matte black
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Then the first major order of business was straightening the lockdown receiver that was bent to all heck
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Installing all the T-Nuts. Im sure some of you are freaking out seeing a mallet in there. I prefer a mallet to "tap" the t nuts in just enough to hold, then i use my handy dandy puller tool works wonderfully, the key is the bearing.
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Time to make some custom cut mylar for the pops and ramp lane drops
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Lets mover er' over
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Ball guides and stands up targets in
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Pre-drilled the holes so these guys go in nice and easy
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Decided on orange bodies and white wafers, i like
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Time to wire in the pop lights to the GI circuit and using my favorite long nose staplerWhat size/depth staples do you use??
Quoted from lordloss:Any update on the project?
I have been patiently waiting as well, this game looks stunning and Im really looking forward to seeing it all buttoned up. WH20 is probably my next resto after I recover from the TOM resto I am currently working on.
. And I really want to get started on my creech restore. Thanks for checking in folks!
2 weeks later
Quoted from Soulrider911:Man this has been killing me... been waiting almost 2 months for my replacement cabinet from virtualpin as pps it out of decals . And I really want to get started on my creech restore. Thanks for checking in folks!
I ended up going with rad cals for mine (wont be kicking off my restore for a few months). Hope your able to get yours soon.
Quoted from lordloss:Anyone have any ball guides for white water?
I have a VUK available. PM sent.
Brady, whats your opinion on the skull mountain mod? I saw you painted and installed yours and was curiuos how you thought it look
Im considering ordering one for my game. I have had the game for about 2 years but just recently started playing it after packing it up to move.
I really had no idea how much there was to do in this game...
Quoted from Soulrider911:Front is 22 1/8” there it is, I have a trapezoid
I wonder if the CNC Kulek allegedly bought is acting up...
Quoted from cosmokramer:Brady, whats your opinion on the skull mountain mod? I saw you painted and installed yours and was curiuos how you thought it look
Im considering ordering one for my game. I have had the game for about 2 years but just recently started playing it after packing it up to move.
I really had no idea how much there was to do in this game...
I really like the skull mold design. I think it looks great and fits the game well.
Unfortunately a few downsides:
- the paint/color didn't match my boulders
- the LEDs used for eyes aren't very visible and are dependent on direct line of sight.
- mine cracked after a few games. The plastic isn't strong enough to survive a direct strike
cosmokramer Looks wise, once I matched the color i really like it. However, I am yet to turn on my game lol...
It's interesting the comment Reznnate made. When I was installing this mode on my game, I literally stopped at one point as I was mounting the mod and thought... "as soon as a ball strikes either one of the legs (pieces that extrude on the bottom to rest on the ramp sides) this thing is going to break." That being said have to see how long it lasts... the mounting is garbage IMO, any ball strike and it's going to be all sideways.
I am on the fence on the skull mountain mod myself, I was worried it was perhaps hiding too much of the PF. With the stated build quality (and I thought the LED's in the pics looked kinda dinky as well, so it was nice to see Reznnate confirm) I may pass for now.
The virtual pin cab dude should just spring for rad cals so he can get you your damn cab already, crikey (mine ended up only being maybe 10 or 20 bucks more that vinyl in the end)
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