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Quoted from Soulrider911:What an anbsolite fiasco this playfield has been. Decided to send it back to the original seller (whom is being VERY difficult) and just order a brand new one from micro
Mirco, not Micro.
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You might pay a little more going straight to mirco, but it makes more sense if there was a problem. Pinball people like to buy, hold, sell, hold, sell, so mirco isn't going to help the second, third, buyer of his products. In all that time it gets shipped around even more potentially and more problems arise. Makes sense to only work with the original buyer.
Quoted from Soulrider911:What an absolute fiasco this playfield has been. Decided to send it back to the original seller (whom is being VERY difficult) and just order a brand new one from Mirco
Good decision. I have a new Mirco playfield, really nice.
Sacramento, CA
Quoted from Davi:Wrinkle out? You are very brave. This is going to be a high risk/high reward try.
any luck on the wrinkles?
Quoted from Crash:How would you suggest cleaning Bigfoot's rubbery plastic?
Warm water and a soft toothbrush
Quoted from twinmice:What kind of glue would you guys use to re-attach bigfoots fur? Thanks
I used good old Elmers on mine. It's held up fine for over 7 years.
If you keep running into trouble with the pf situation let me know. You are close, I recently got mine from mirco for a future swap but certainly willing to help out.
Quoted from Soulrider911:Any idea why the previous owner shimmed two of the Upper payfield supports?
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Just a guess, but possibly to help give it more of a slope, so the balls don't get stuck on the divot from the lower to upper VUK, and ormthe small gap in between the upper to lower ramp.
Also, the hole on the first pic where the support is looks hogged out, so mayb for that too
Winnipeg, MB
Why are you replacing the playfield? Didn't you say in the first post it looked great? Can you just clean and clear the original?
Quoted from Crash:How would you suggest cleaning Bigfoot's rubbery plastic?
I use Purple Power degreaser on most everything. I would also use it on his face and fur.
Lots more progress over the weekend. The goal was to clear the top, and start labeling parts and organizing them. As I removed more and more parts, I found lots of interesting things. Overall the Playfield is still in decent shape. The area near the pops needs new mylar is cracked and coming off.
Boulders are pretty rough but the top and right and left sides are pretty good
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I do think this machine was exposed to some moisture at some point as some of the lamp bases are rusty, as seen here, they will get replaced
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Ramps are cracked in the front, common.
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Otherwise most the ramps are in good shape! Nothing a bath and some flame polishing cant cleant up - these will be for sale soon!
Insanity ramp is in really good shape
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Clearing the playfield went smoothly didn't find too much out of the ordinary which was kinda a nice surprise.
Slings are beat
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Pops area, mylar is dunzo
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Some smart indivisual added this metal disk in the upper PF ball drop area
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About to remove the Upper
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Just need to remove remaining ball guides
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Basically, all cleared
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Removed all the mecks from the bottom of the playfield
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Pop bumpers where pretty rough, these guys are getting totally rebuilt.
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Cleaning parts as I go, some are getting removed entirely for cleaning
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Targets looking like new!
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I noticed something where the subway mounts... this does not seem right? Just a larger rubber spacer and a MASSIVE screw that went all the way through the playfield? Is this normal?
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Quoted from Soulrider911:I noticed something where the subway mounts... this does not seem right? Just a larger rubber spacer and a MASSIVE screw that went all the way through the playfield? Is this normal?
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Of course this is not normal. You need a white plastic spacer, and this machine screw (~1.8 inch).
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Lol! Thanks so much buddy I actually think I found a loose spacer matching that description in the bottom of the cabinet! Just need the screw.
Quoted from Soulrider911:Lol! Thanks so much buddy I actually think I found a loose spacer matching that description in the bottom of the cabinet! Just need the screw.
Ok, last one 
Screw diameter is 4mm.
20181003_183944 (resized).jpgOk I was confused for minute, then realized that caliper must be centimeters. The spacer I have found is part 03-8371 measure 1 1/8” which is roughly 2.75cm so I think this is it?
http://www.planetarypinball.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=PPS-03-8371
Quoted from Soulrider911:Ok I was confused for minute, then realized that caliper must be centimeters. The spacer I have found is part 03-8371 measure 1 1/8” which is roughly 2.75cm so I think this is it?
http://www.planetarypinball.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=PPS-03-8371
That is the correct one.
thank you to pinball life and Marco, dunno what I would do without you guys .Quoted from Davi:I see only USPS boxes.
What's inside?
IMG_3585 (resized).PNGOk what jerk I was finally a few pics of some parts. We have
Full pop bumper rebuild parts,
switches,
bulb sockets,
new stand up targets,
new coils wrappers,
cab protectors,
led flipper buttons,
3x flipper rebuild kits,
new B.B. clamp,
new playfield hangers,
new posts (going all light blue)
New light domes in orange
and a bunch o other stuffs
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Quoted from Soulrider911:Ok what jerk I was finally a few pics of some parts. We have
Full pop bumper rebuild parts,
switches,
bulb sockets,
new stand up targets,
new coils wrappers,
cab protectors,
led flipper buttons,
3x flipper rebuild kits,
new B.B. clamp,
new playfield hangers,
new posts (going all light blue)
New light domes in orange
and a bunch o other stuffs
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Are you 100% sure about that protector? It helps to protect the leg, but not the cabinet. I have seen many damaged decal due to this method.
Quoted from Davi:Are you 100% sure about that protector? It helps to protect the leg, but not the cabinet. I have seen many damaged decal due to this method.
Actually Davi I would agree with you on that one, when it’s brand new decals, yes they can and will cause rincles. However my new cabinet has metal cab protectors, and then these are used on top (more for aesthetics) so they will. Or even be touching the cabinet art
. I did it on my fishtales works like a charm
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More cleaning, and starting to replace switches and bulb sockets. This is actually the first game I have had to restore a significant amount of the sockets. It's pretty interesting that the majority of the rusty sockets are along the left side of the playfield and not as bad on the right.
Chain of sockets behind the river targets where the worst, they are getting replaced
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More rusty sockets
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Brand new sockets and new wiring
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Wired back in the GI circuit
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New switches
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New Targets
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Next moving on to rebuilding all the coil mecks... ya this thing is beat
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Quoted from Soulrider911:Actually davi I would agree with you on that one, when it’s brand new decals, yes they can and will cause rincles. However my new cabinet has metal cab protectors, and then these are used on top (more for aesthetics) so they will. Or even be touching the cabinet art . I did it on my fishtales works like a charm
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Plastic alone can damage the decal. Standard metal protector alone is too thin, the leg can damage the decal, at the height around bottom screw.
My final method is a thicker metal protector. It is able to protect the decal. Left: modified, right: available at pinball shops
20181005_191813 (resized).jpgFINALLY!!! Got my money back for that playfield, good god that was a nightmare, the seller was... let's just say VERY difficult to deal with. I think he knew the clear was flawed and played it off like he didn't know... then when I wanted to send it back he kinda fought it tooth and nail, but paypal obviously ruled in my favor, thank god it DID NOT send for friends and family.
But New playfield on the way from Brian thanks Bryan_Kelly !! Onward we go
Well made tons of progress on all the mecks. Every one was de-greased, washed, new coil wrappers, new coil tubings, any questionable part replaced, and put back together.
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Pops like new
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This coil is toast, was from the VUK
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Like new
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The yeti was a total mess
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Yeti bath time
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Time for some veneers
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All clean just need to reglue one of his arms to the hand
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Just got word from ChrisHibler that my boards are on the way back to me. He found the Chase lamp board was a bit of a mess. Someone had begun repair and left parts off. Root cause was probably a blown trace. It works 100% now. Driver was ugly with jumpers. Repaired that properly with headers, etc. the MPU Had corrosion under the battery holder that would have caused issues soon. Mpu now has nvram installed as well. Ready for years of fun!!
Well replaced almost every gi socket due to rust, and even some feature lamp sockets.
The topper light board had a busted socket
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Started cleaning the ramps, then going to lightly wet sand, flame polish and then they all will be up for sale.
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I don't think I left the garage today, for more than about 45 minutes. Lots and lots of soldering. Basically replaced almost every gi socket, about 6 feature lamp sockets, and a few flashers due to rust. The tumbler has been going 24/7... and I'm on my second one, the first one kinda blew up haha, good think i got the 15.00 added protection .
Reproducing the shooter lane decal
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cleaning all the harnesses and i found a nice place to hang dry them 'Merica
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Painted the cabinet vent screen blue found a spray paint that is darn close to the Whitewater cabinet color
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Lots of polishing, half these parts you won't even see when playing.. but i like detail.
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Micro switches getting replaced everywhere:
BEFORE
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AFTER
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A bunch of IDC connectors are getting replaced, and I had to do a ton of harness clean (soldering /splicing / etc...) up this is by far the worst harness I have worked with.
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The power transformer is getting the royal treatment
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Guess what arrived today playfield number 2! And boy look at that clear... this is how its supposed to look, no waves thank you @bryan_kelly
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