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resto: Gorgar (mof: 20150301)

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9 years ago


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#1 9 years ago

Today, I lost my soul to Gorgar...
GGOORRGGAARRRR... HHURRRRRRTT...

A good (non-pinhead) friend of mine has been telling me for years that "Gorgar was his childhood favorite," and so I've been on the lookout for an affordable one for <$900 over the last 2 years, and each one that came up had some sort of "issues" I'd have to overcome. Sometimes, just waiting for a local Pinsider to help out pays off...

A local Pinsider sold me his Gorgar to free up some cash/space. It's already been "gone through" and works well. He put a nice sound amp in there and added a small speaker behind the grill as well. I can't wait to hook up the external sub woofer as well. It will sound epic (it already does.) How about those nifty Scared Stiff flipper bats, eh? It wasn't my plan, but the more I play it with them on there, the harder it will be to remove them. It adds fun to the look for sure.

I've already cleaned the PF and waxed it, and logged 30+ games. What a sweet game it is. I had no idea Gorgar was this much fun.

-mof

(PICS are in the next next post.)

EVALUATION:

=====================
PARTS/GRADES (6.5) overall
=====================
* Apron: 6: has a few scratches that are "character flaws", replacement would be "nice to have"
* Boards: 9: Everything seems to be working. Two new Rottendogs in there, huge bonus
* Body: 5: pretty fair shape. Lots of scratches for now, otherwise good wood, and decent shine. bondo/sanding in the future and repaint/stencil no question.
* Backglass: 6: good restore candidate, otherwise need a new one from Mayfair $$$.
* Displays: 9: nearly perfect
* Inner Cab: 8: Looks very good at first glance
* Legs: 7: Legs are ok, and original
* Plastics: 7: has a decent set on there, I don't think there are too many "see-through" holes. Just small scratches
* Playfield: 6: flat, planked, crazed, good enough to enjoy for years. Very little isolated wear. Wasn't played too much.
* Pop caps: 9: aged white, but 100% intact. Very nice!
* Shooter and Assembly: 7: needs a good polish
* Side Rails: 8: Flat and clean, all nails present. Didn't see any major bumps at first glance
* Transformer: 8: Looks good.

=============================
Shopping List ($200 budget, $155 current)
=============================

New parts:
* cliffy lane guides $20
* flipper bats $7
* flipper rubbers $3
* flipper switches $10
* 2 new flipper mechs and solenoids $80
* lamp sockets $4
* leg levelers $5
* rubber kit $15
* shooter spring $1
* solenoid sleeves $10

==================================
SOMEDAY $850: New BG, Stencils and Cab repaint
==================================

#2 9 years ago

==========
TASK LIST
==========
Here's the work required on this baby before I deliver it:

COMPLETE (59.0 hrs)
* Install new leg levelers and floor sliders (.5)
* Legs, set pitch and level (.25)
* Plug, ensure it’s in good shape, or replace (x)
* Playfield, clean and wax (.5)
* Lamp sockets, review that all work properly, and clean/replace any that need it (.50)
* Dipswitches, set them for freeplay, etc and/or set functions using coin door buttons (.25)
* Shooter, ultrasonic, and re-assemble it (.5)
* Reposition both flipper return frames to better score "D" and "E" inlane switches (2)
* Replaced both flipper mechs and upgraded the coils to 28vdc (4)
* Flipper button switches, replace with new parts (.75)
* Flipper buttons, ultrasonic and reinstall (.25)
* Flipper return frames, remove bells, and install new set from Cliffy (1)
* Cabinet, troll it for parts with magnetic wand, and vacuum/clean it out (.5)
* Shooter lane protector, polish and reinstall (.25)
* Backglass, clean both sides carefully (.25)
* Displays, wipe down glass and rubber (.0)
* GI lamp board, remove all bulbs, wash 'em all, and install only 10 (my personal taste) (.5)
* Caps on power board (were already done) (.0)
* Pit plastic, clean it (.0)
* Acorns, install new set to match plastics (.25)
* Ball guides metal walls x 4, polish and re-install (.5)
* Orbit bar, buff and polish (.25)
* Switch test (ensure CPU and Physical switches all register each switch) (.25)
* Ball stop (above saucer), ensure it is polished and clean and reinstalled (.25)
* Posts, tighten, tumble and re-fill all stripped holes (.25)
* Bulbs, install ultrasoniced 44s and a few LEDs where needed (topside) (.25)
* Lockdown bar, de-rust, clean and install new foam (.0)
* Playfield guides and edges inside the cabinet, clean/wax them for ease of movement (.0)
* Plastics, install new ones where needed, and verify you have the supporting hardware (.0)
* Cabinet wires, ensure the 4 harnesses move freely when playfield is rotated up/down (.0)
* Backbox, clean and vacuum it (.25)
* Fixed bad socket (.25)
* Installed 2 new sockets and adjusted wall and starpost (3)
* Drops "GAR" cleaned and reinstalled (1)
* Apron, trough area, and shooter gauge clean it, new sleeve (2)
* Playfield brackets, (that seat in the lockdown bar) tumble and reassemble (.5)
* Added two blue LEDs (.5) to flippers and "cave"
* Ball guides, (wireform) polish x3 (.0)
* Added green LED (.5) to snake pit
* Plastic protector made for "GAR" (1.0)
* "GAR" drops need to reset more frequently after 3rd target drops (.5)
* Backglass, install new grip tape to better hold the backglass to trim (.25)
* Playfield glass channel, polish it (.75)
* Solenoid check, review to ensure they are all to spec, check resistance (.25)
* Switch adjustments (1-2-3 lanes, inlanes, outlanes) (.5)
* Coin door, clean it, replace (.25) plastic (1.75)
* Cabinet sides cleaned and waxed (1)
* Paint pen inside and outside of cabinet, coin door, and head edges (1)
* Legs, de-rust, polish and wax (1) (30)
* Work the GAR drops again until they always reset (1)
* Fuses, review and replace to spec (.5)
* Fuses, review recommended upgrades to improve safety (1.5)
* HV Driver Board rebuilt (2/3 complete) (1)
* Coin door carriage bolts, remove and clean and polish them (2)
* Plastics, clean and flatten (1)
* Lockdown bar receiver, de-rust, clean and reinstall it (3)
* Coin door flap, remove and de-rust it (1)
* Flipper nails re-install and dremel off bottom-side (2)
* Drops, try to make them work well again (1)
* Leveled insert (1)
* install red start button (2)
* de-ruse, clean, and reassemble lamp door brackets (1)
* triple-thick and touch up backglass (4)
* create new instruction cards that are more clear (3)
* replace J2 connector, and sand/clean contacts (1)
* shaved spacers in backbox so displays lay more flat, added foam to protect backglass (1)
* Power, check all board Test Point’s (TPs) against spec (.5)
* Set up clean "away" coin box with extra fuse set, extra bulbs, documentation, etc. (.5)
* replace resistors for flashers: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/firepower-tech-repair-and-restore#post-2276980 (.5) 57.5
* Final touch ups on backglass (1.5)

#3 9 years ago

Pics!
-mof
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#5 9 years ago
Quoted from practicalsteve:

Well done MOF, glad you finally got it. I kinda like the Scared Stiff bats as well. Not going to lie, I always thought this game was kinda a snooze, looking forward to when you get it dialed in to the level that you approve of and come over and play some serious games on it so it can change my mind.

Thanks man. I've only played it a few times at PPM (where you can never enjoy the sounds), and it never "wowed" me there either. It won't play like my "blue edition (tm) High Speed", but I'll make sure it feels great.

-mof

#8 9 years ago
Quoted from Fast-Ed:

I love my gorgar! Glad to see other people enjoying it also. Be sure to screw the back leg levelers all the way out to get the most enjoyment out of it.

No doubt -- I always try for 6.5' and usually get all my games past 5.5', depending on the floor location.
-mof

#9 9 years ago

Grinding right down the list (in random order)

All bulbs working -- always thankful when the lamp matrix is happy.
There are a few old/corroded sockets that may deserve a replacement some day.
-mof

#13 9 years ago

Shooter assembly polished, ultrasoniced, new sleeve, check.
-mof

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#15 9 years ago

I was getting fed up with how I could not score the "D" or "E" inlane switches from a ball with momentum moving back up into the lane from the flippers.

I had never in my life seen a pinball machine where the flipper return frames were placed in completely the wrong location.

The location of these frames made the ball travel so bad, that with "ANY" force weak or strong, I could NEVER get the ball to score from the inlanes (going up). This meant the "back door" way to score the 1-2-3-4 lanes could never be had with an alley pass or ball trap.

-mof

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#16 9 years ago

I then had to fill all 6 holes with super glue and bamboo toothpicks, and pack them good -- especially the middle ones -- since I would be drilling up against that middle hole in a few minutes. I let that sit for 15 minutes and then came back to win the fight.

I then took the NEW:
"Enhanced Gorgar flipper return frames" from Cliffy, and measured using it, starting with the ideal location for the inner (of the 3) bells. I took a poker, and pushed down and made my "starter" hole. I then took a flashlight, and shined it in there to ensure I had the hole in the right place. I did. I then drilled with a 3/32" drill bit, and then I set up the hole with by screwing in a hex screw to get all the threads started. Once complete I screwed in the screw for the first bell. Next, with one bell complete, I aimed the curved end of the frame to the best position on the "inside" of the ball guide, and then poked my hole. I was off a little when I checked it with the light for best "middle" position, so I dug another hole just next to it and dug between the two -- drilled it, and screwed in the second screw. Now the third one was easy, since the frame was holding itself in place for me. I poked, removed the 2 screws and frame, and then started the hole with the hex screw. I then screwed all 3 screws back into place and then play-tested it.

I took a pause, and bent the switches a little bit to get the switches to lay a hair lower in the switch, to enable easier pass-through of the ball. I also took some 400 grit, and shined up the switch a little. (Repeated on both sides)

I repeated steps for the other side.

Now I can score on an alley pass from either side, and I score many more D's and E's when trapping a fast-ball. This is how it should play.

Success!

-mof

You can see how far off the original frames were from where I decided to put mine. I only had 1 NEW Gorgar prototype from Cliffy, so I decided not to install it. I re-installed the old ones instead, which had very little wear on them, but I very much look forward to the newer set with 1mm more height and a few mm more material covering the "hinge" of the flipper.

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#17 9 years ago

And once again my favorite pinball proverb comes true:

"The more you restore, the higher the score" (tm)
-mof

Just got my first ever free ball on Gorgar with 345,000. F I N A L L Y...

#19 9 years ago
Quoted from Fast-Ed:

Does the ball move smooth to the flipper? I hate when the ball hops to the flipper.

Yes, it's even better with the new enhanced return frames with the extra 1mm on there.
-mof

1 week later
#21 9 years ago

Tonight was a triumphant night. 4 hours on the flipper assemblies -- best 4 hours of the entire shop job.

The grody-to-the-max original flipper assemblies were removed and put in a coffin.

New mechs were installed, and they worked like a charm immediately after install.

1. I did have to remove both plastic clips that keep the wires in place.
2. I invented new orientations for both brackets and just started using hex screws (2) to install each assembly (before I install another 6 each)

Game now plays like funnn smash-mouth 1979 pinball should feel.

-mof

Here are the pics...

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NEW PARTS
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NEW
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HAVE FUN!
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#24 9 years ago
Quoted from Fast-Ed:

Cool! That's what I'd like to do with my gorgar. I put all new stock flippers in mine but they still seem to push the ball. Where did you get them? What do I ask for? I can't wait to play Gorgar with some real flippers.

You can order the kits pre-made from Terry at PBL. That's the best route.
I recommend being ready to go with molex'ing as well. (That way you don't have to remove the PF, or practice "vertical soldering", and most important -- you can easily remove the assembly some day for inspection/cleaning)
With Terry's site you simply order the L and R brackets and the whole assembly, then there's a drop-down menu for the correct coil, and then you EMAIL him that you want a specific switch type on there instead.
Also, there's a drop down menu for the coil stop. I am pretty sure I have been going with all: 12111 on all my solid states and system 11s.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/system-11-club/page/6#post-1019065
http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=172
The coils should be: Williams SFL-19-400/30-750 Flipper Coil
Coil stop: 12111

Note: There is an extra set of steps when doing a flipper assembly upgrade on a 1979 machine.
See this post:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/resto-gorgar-mof-20150301/page/3#post-2484072

-mof

#25 9 years ago
Quoted from nasco62:

Worth the cost for the upgraded flippers??? Also have you added additional fuses with the upgrade?

Worth the cost? No question.
I've done new flippers/assemblies/mech upgrades on all of my pins. It's the first thing I upgrade, and the most rewarding thing to improve.
-mof

#26 9 years ago

When you combine:

1. new flippers

with

2. new enhanced flipper return frames (also re-aligning them within the game)

with

3. well-aligned inlane switches that allow the ball to travel in both directions smoothly over the switch

you now have a really nicely playing game. I like trapping a fast ball that then rolls through the inlane and flies up through the switch (D or E) and BACK up into the playfield, then back down into the inlane (scoring D or E twice) and then back into the flippers. If your Gorgar doesn't do that (like most of my 80's Williams pins can do), I'd consider upgrading your pin to do so.

-mof

#27 9 years ago

Tonight I need to clean out the cabinet flipper buttons in the ultrasonic, and replace the flipper button switches. Then we'll be really rocking and rolling here.

-mof

#28 9 years ago

Shazzam!

(1 quick hour)

Someone beat me to the punch, and the flipper buttons were already clean.

I tell you what, there is no better feeling than brand new flipper button switches, set up perfectly.

Here are the pics of before and after...

-mof

OLD
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NEW
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GOOD GAPS / PARALLEL SWITCH LEAVES
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#30 9 years ago
Quoted from skywalker:

Looks great Mof,
Must be a real blast to play, Haven't got the courage to do it to mine, Would have to try out yours 1st.

TY man...
I'll take a movie when I'm done so you can see the play action for yourself.
-mof

#31 9 years ago

Cabinet was actually pretty clean. Now it's all cleaned up. Makes it much easier to find screws when they fall.
-mof
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#33 9 years ago
Quoted from Jabbles180:

I bet this bad boy is playing quite nice by now. I'm glad you are putting your touches on it. Your buddy is getting a great gift.

Thanks!
-mof

#34 9 years ago

Trough kickout plate (or whatever it's called) all polished up, and the screws too.

(15 minutes)

100 baby steps, and we'll be there! Dang it sure is a pleasure to work on a 1979 machine. Easiest game I've ever worked on.

-mof

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#36 9 years ago
Quoted from genex:

can't wait to play this
nice work MOF!

TY,
Look forward to seeing you enjoy it.
-mof

#37 9 years ago

(1 hour)
Pulled ALL bulbs from backbox, rinsed all bulbs in water for a few seconds, dried 'em off by hand, threw out the 20 that were bad, and re-installed ONLY 44's in the controlled lamps around the perimeter, and put TEN 47s where "GORGAR" and the lovely lady are. Rest is bulb-less. My #1 goal is limited glare on the PF, since it's for home use.
-mof

"The more you restore, the higher the score..." (c) mof 2015.

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#39 9 years ago
Quoted from Fast-Ed:

What kind of sound set up do you have in it?

Previous owner put a pre-amp in, and then included a new speaker and then put a small speaker up top in the backbox to push some high end ut up there. Also has ports and wires ready for an external sub (can't wait to try that)
-mof

#40 9 years ago

She's REALLY starting to play like a gem.

I removed both ball gates. I like the challenge of not getting all the "easy" 2x 3x bonus multipliers now. AND when you rip the lit spinner, it coughs it right back at you, without adding tons of bonus, which dares you to strike again. This puts more points on the spinner, and less on the bonus. I like that.

Rusty gates...
-mof

#41 9 years ago

* Acorns, install new set to match plastics (.25)
* Ball guides metal walls x 4, polish and re-install (.5)
* Orbit bar, buff and polish (.25)
* Switch test (ensure CPU and Physical switches all register each switch) (.25)
* Ball stop (above saucer), ensure it is polished and clean and reinstalled (.25)
* Posts, tighten, tumble and re-fill all stripped holes (.25)
* Bulbs, install ultra-soniced 44s and a few LEDs where needed (topside) (.25)
* fixed a broken lamp socket (.25)
* installed a missing T-nut (.25)

Enjoy the pics!
-mof

DIRTY ACORNS
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DULL METAL
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BLOWN SOCKET
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LOOSE POSTS
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MISSING T-NUT
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#42 9 years ago

Can't see in this pic... trying RED colorbombing the 1-2-3 lane plastics. It's ok... We'll see.
Playing really sharp, can't wait to take a vid of the action...
-mof

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#44 9 years ago
Quoted from mwsmith:

I see those infamous upside down switch blades in your missing t-nut photo.

LOL !!! WTF is going on there, haha nice catch !
Is that from factory?

-mof

#46 9 years ago
Quoted from mwsmith:

Yep. Most early Williams solid states through system 7 have this issue. One blade was installed wrong. You can take them apart and flip it, but the other contact will have been hammered by the rough backside of that reversed blade and it will eventually become unreliable due to the gold plating being damaged. At least one new contact will have to be installed to have a reliable switch. I've been rebuilding mine as they become to contrary with blades and contacts from Pinball Resource.

I'm pretty sure these are working properly in both directions. I'm all for being prepared and having 2 new switches ready. Can you link the ones you like?
-mof

#49 9 years ago

Put in a few fun hours tonight. I had a few problems that were bugging me:

1. The "cave" on the left, has a starpost that sticks WAY out, when a slow-roll comes back out, the ball bounces off that in a very unsexy way.

2. The "cave" left wall is too far off the paint, and should line right up with the edge of the starpost.

3. The "cave" should have more light on the right edge

4. The "cliff" on the other side should have more light

Got my drill and vacuum ready and got to work...

-mof

#50 9 years ago

1. Moved starpost back.
2. Moved the wall out.
-mof

Starpost sticks out:
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Wall moved out:
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Checking alignment for perfection:
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#51 9 years ago

3. Added light to the cave
-mof

Prepped the socket:
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Too dark:
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MUCH BETTER:
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#52 9 years ago

4. Cliff is too dark:
-mof

Needs more light:
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Prep socket:
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BETTER:
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Check out the color now!
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#53 9 years ago

Now we REALLY have more light, even on the center targets, and the blue really shows up on the right (cliff).

Happy camper. Cave shot is slightly easier to make, and the ball return from it is great now. No nore strange bounces out of there.

-mof

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#57 9 years ago
Quoted from skywalker:

Looks great Mof, your gone over & beyond on this project

Quoted from Razor:

Very tastefully done, mof.

Quoted from rottenrobert1313:

Looks awesome mof. I'd love to find me a gorgar.

Thanks, fellas.

Next up deck: Green LED behind the snake pit (try it out) and Blue LED coming up from the flippers.

-mof

#60 9 years ago
Quoted from skywalker:

Mof, did read somewhere here you need to do a wiring mod for the snake pit Led flasher to work ?

I'm actually gonna leave all the incanny flashers alone, and just try adding a green LED to the GI behind it, just adding a socket/bulb.

But I'm still interested in learning more about what is required to support LEDs in the flashers in case I ever route it... Do you know where you read that?

-mof

#63 9 years ago

Next up -- solving intermittent drop target resets on the "GAR" bank.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/gorgar-weird-drop-target-problem
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/replacement-for-those-sliding-horseshoe-contacts-in-williams-drop-targets

My plan is to molex both drop target banks and get them out of there and clean/inspect them.

-mof

#64 9 years ago

Success!
Cleaned drops and installed a new solenoid sleeve. Found 2 missing screws and a few bent drop target switches.

Old high score: 450,000 (where the drops wouldn't reset much)
New high score: 700,000 (where they reset most of the time now)

Remember kids,
"The more you restore, the higher the score!" (c) mof 2015

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#65 9 years ago

Before cleaning them:
(forgot to take an after, not a big deal...)

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View of the contacts... I am wondering why there are two leaves with each contact? Aren't they always touching?

-mof

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#67 9 years ago

Here's a video to show how things are coming along at the 18.5 hour mark on the game.

Note:

1. new flipper return frames are not in
2. new flippers are in (note the ball speed)
3. one-way gates are removed from 1-2-3 lane area to improve skill shot and reduce 2x-3x from scoring
4. left "cave" wall and star post have been moved to improve ball flow
5. flipper return frames have been moved to improve ball flow

-mof

#68 9 years ago

* Cleaned trough assembly
* Polished playfield brackets
* Added blue light!
-mof

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#69 9 years ago

Blue light on flippers is ALWAYS good against a warm incandescent GI in the slings...
-mof

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Hold on a sec "party/indoor mode" makes for WAYYYYY better color adjustment.

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#70 9 years ago

* Added blue LED to "cave" that only turns on when the first "10,000" is lit up.
-mof

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#72 9 years ago

LEDs installed. Added green to snake pit for JUST the final light when it's in "GORGAR HURT" mode for 50K.

-mof

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#73 9 years ago

So you see, there's nothing wrong with using ALL 47's and a few well-placed LEDs to spice up the game.
No color-bombing.
-mof

#75 9 years ago
Quoted from Fast-Ed:

I think it looks amazing.

Awww shucks...
Gorgar is a looker! (I sure am a fan of spilled-crayon, primary color early SS pins)
-mof

#77 9 years ago

I moved the inlane posts out 1/16" last night. The results are incredible.
-mof

BEFORE (tell me this doesn't bug the $hit out of you)
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AFTER (now you can exhale and relax)
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#78 9 years ago

Some more shots of the adjustments.
-mof
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#80 9 years ago
Quoted from CNKay:

that is awesome!~ But now the rings of missing pf paint is bothering the hell out of me.. when will it ever end.....

Thanks...

Yeah, there were already some scuff marks there when I started, and so I didn't mind it.
And again. I don't focus on that area when I'm playing...

I decided 'performance > looks' and it's the damn truth for me... You don't play the looks.

Overcoming design/factory flaws to get the game to FEEL really good (like all my other games do) is making me very happy. Again, I've never seen one this poorly aligned before.

-mof

#81 9 years ago

In this video, you can see the SWOOSH of the ball that feeds into the right inlane and flies into the right flipper @ 2:40, and you'll hear me yell, "Woooo" when it happens -- since I was hoping for some action like that.
-mof

#83 9 years ago
Quoted from rottenrobert1313:

Awesome video. Really cool how fast the ball went through the in lane. Cracks me up with your carrying on during the video. Like the sigh during one of the ball launches. Sounded like some new sounds from Gorgar. lol

Thanks -- yeah, looks like I had 1 good ball, and 3 fails.

It's good to shoot and post video, it makes it easier to see the flaws in the game:

1. "2" lane scores too many points, need to widen the gap on the switch.
2. it appears only the POP bumpers create enough vibration to get the "GAR" targets to reset. Not horrible, but not ideal.

-mof

#85 9 years ago
Quoted from pinballdork:

Looks great. I would also like to see where you placed the lights below the flipper. I think it would look good in hell red, or even swamp green

There's just room for one socket right behind the apron. Didn't give it much thought. Just linked right into the socket for the bulb that's under the apron.
-mof

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#86 9 years ago
Quoted from rottenrobert1313:

Awesome video. Really cool how fast the ball went through the in lane. Cracks me up with your carrying on during the video. Like the sigh during one of the ball launches. Sounded like some new sounds from Gorgar. lol

If that video cracked you up, maybe this one where I score like 299,999 and almost earn the extra ball might crack you up as well. Of course it takes me 10-20 games to have one good one like this... No point posting the out-takes with scores of <100K.

-mof

#87 9 years ago

Here's one with a sweet 3-target sweep of "GOR" -- wait for it! @ 2:55

I thought I had lost the game, and then the BONUS got me across the finish line with no time left on the clock... Of course my free ball was a fail after that...

-mof

#89 9 years ago
Quoted from rottenrobert1313:

Very nice! Boy your making me want a Gorgar more and more.

This Gorgar is making me wonder why I overlooked this game for years...
-mof

#94 9 years ago
Quoted from rottenrobert1313:

Pm me a price and I'll see want cash I can round up.
Mof you should keep the videos coming as you progress on this game. Kinda cool how you're making the game play better then when new.

My regret is not capturing a movie of how horrible the inlanes played when I got this thing.
WAIT. I have a short one that I made for Cliffy.
-mof

#95 9 years ago

Here's what inspired me to start filling and drilling and moving all the parts around. If this is stock Gorgar, then the design team or factory failed on this release. The location of the inlane guide in relation to the wireform ball guide was not aligned, such that the ball smacked into the ball guide, and returned back down the inlane. This made it impossible to score a "D" or "E" o a trap or pass, which is part of the game.

-mof

#96 9 years ago

Next up: creating plastics to shield the precious plastics from damage. I'll start with the middle drop target plastic of course. I think I'm good with the round post washers on the slings for now. I'm off to the plastic shop to rummage through their bins for cheap finds.

-mof

#97 9 years ago

Plastics made for "GAR" targets. Went with 3/32" width Lexan (polycarbonate).
First time, made a few mistakes, but recovered ok, will use the piece.
Had a blast using the belt sander from Harbor.
It feels good to know I cannot blast apart that middle plastic now. I put pre-made round lexan washers on the other vulnerable spots. (pinbits, cpr, big-daddy -- all sell them)

I used a hot-poker to start the hole, and plastic drill bit 5/32" to make the hole, and an exacto to cut away the excess. Worked great.

-mof

TRACING PLASTIC
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BACK FROM BELT SANDER
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INSTALLED
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#98 9 years ago
Quoted from TimeWarp1:

Was it just me or at the 4:06 point you were only one more bonus away from a maxed out bonus counter?

I think 29 x 3x = max possible bonus (87k)
-mof

#99 9 years ago

It's gotta be done -- playfield glass channel -- needs to be clean and really shine to reflect all that good light...
-mof

BEFORE
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#100 9 years ago

WINNING
-mof

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#101 9 years ago

Playfield glass channel before/after:
-mof

BEFORE
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AFTER
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#102 9 years ago

You add up 100 subtle differences together, and what do you get?

Something that looks stunning. Take that next step. Keep adding up little acts of resto...

=)

-mof

#103 9 years ago

"The more you restore, the higher the score!" (c) -mof

Just got my first EVER red-arrow extra ball, Woooo !
-mof

832,250
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#105 9 years ago
Quoted from paulywalnuts23:

Why is your backglass so dark?

(Mostly it's the camera, but since you asked)
I'm a night-time player, playing in a home collection.
ALL my backglasses have 9 or 10 47s in there to reduce glare.
Wouldn't have it any other way.
-mof

#107 9 years ago
Quoted from paulywalnuts23:

So you have removed all the other bulbs then?

There are 9 or 10 GI bulbs in the backbox.
-mof

#108 9 years ago

Next up, coin door. Always an adventure.
This time, I'm going to dip in the anti-rust, scrub a little, THEN ultrasonic. .25 plastics have some serious crap on there. Had to scrub 20 minutes.
-mof

GAG ME WITH A SPOON
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SITTIN' PRETTY!
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#109 9 years ago

YESSS...
Now onto de-rusting that coin flap.
-mof

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#110 9 years ago

Let there be chrome...
-mof

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#113 9 years ago
Quoted from rottenrobert1313:

Nevermind. I just re read the post from top to bottom. I like the idea of more spinner.

You are correct everything is a trade off. Now 2x and 3x are much harder to earn. The skill shot is much harder to make now. But now I can rip more Spinner because the ball comes back to the flippers.

The game is still in balance, I just shifted things a little.

-mof

#115 9 years ago
Quoted from rottenrobert1313:

I added your post to my favorites in case I ever get me a Gorgar. So many helpful ideas.

Nice to hear. Good news is there are a LOT of Gorgars floating around out there. Hope you find one...
-mof

#116 9 years ago

Time to pull the legs out of the tube of evaporust and apply wax to both sides.
Ready to see some sexy legs?
-mof

#117 9 years ago

Evaporust and wax are your friends. It takes 1 measly hour to get your rusty old crap legs looking great. Sure these don't look like "new" but for a very good player, these look great (in person). I should dig up the befores so you can see them covered in rust.

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-mof
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#118 9 years ago

30 hours in 35 days. Almost caught up on preferred pace of 1 hour a day. Looking like 30 of ~55 hours complete. Over the hump now, and should be wrapped up by end of April -- as long as no distractions come through here...

happy camper...
-mof

#119 9 years ago

SEXY front end...
Too bad this pic comes out so much darker than in real life.
-mof

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#121 9 years ago
Quoted from Tanooki:

Amazing the work you've done on this.

Ty!
-mof

#124 9 years ago

(I found a very injured Nine Ball) -- Gorgar will be on hold for two weeks!
-mof

#128 9 years ago

Darn "G" target on "GAR" is sticking and not registering the "down" position again. I've already taken it apart 2x. This bites. I was starting to love 1979 tech...
-mof

1 week later
#130 9 years ago
Quoted from rottenrobert1313:

Well mof I got one. Now I need to do the flipper mod and get this game playing better. I still don't know how I got so lucky on this game. It's in awesome shape. Oh and my gor targets sometimes won't reset. I also need to look into a few of the rollover switches and see why the are advancing the bonus more then a 1000. Loving it so far.20150423_171727.jpg (Click image to enlarge)

Nice, man!
Get those new Cliffy return frames...
-mof

#132 8 years ago
Quoted from mof:

Darn "G" target on "GAR" is sticking and not registering the "down" position again. I've already taken it apart 2x. This bites. I was starting to love 1979 tech...
-mof

Now that Nine Ball is working really well, I'm back to Gorgar.
Blownfuse had a great idea for the horseshoe contacts...
It worked -- solder the backside of each one so that there's great contact through the system.
SHAZZAM!
-mof

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#133 8 years ago

After playing 20+ games, I have a new problem. The targets don't like to fall, you have to slam them hard -- which is actually kinda cool for lower playfield targets. I like that the G-O-R targets up top fall easily by strikes from the pops, that's good pinball. I know I don't want the drops to fall with a whisper for G-A-R, but they are really declining to go down right now. They almost require 2 hits each. haha. Still, it's a way better problem to have than targets resetting infrequently. Moving in the right direction. I would hope that over time they will fall quicker.
-mof

#134 8 years ago

Another 20 games later and they are falling a bit better. By the time I deliver this game, I may adjust them one last time, we'll see.
-mof

#135 8 years ago

Finally fire-proofed a Williams system 3-11.
Next up will be rebuilding the HV section.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/vids-guide-to-bulletproofing-williams-system-6/page/2
-mof

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1 week later
#137 8 years ago

HV section of Driver Board updated.
Less wear and tear on the displays going forward.
-mof

1. 100v 1N4764 Diodes ==> 91v 1N4763 (Z2 and Z4). This dims the displays slightly, but makes them last 10x longer.

2. The 680 ohm resistors (R2 and R5) get changed out to 1.2K ohm 1/2 watt resistors.

3. R1 and R4 should be replaced with 39k ohm 1 watt flameproof resistors. (Still need to do these)

#139 8 years ago
Quoted from rottenrobert1313:

Mof I just wanted to say thank you. You were so right with the flipper upgrade and Cliffy in lane guide recommendations. Wow what a difference. The ball has zero hop now and is silky smooth to the stronger flippers. This game has come alive!!!!

Sweet man,
-mof

#140 8 years ago

PAGG over. Game on.

* flattened plastics today. Oven style didn't work for me. Hair dryer and the curves of the sink worked on all the plastics <12" long... The two long ones I gave up on.

* Disassembled the coin door frame and removed all the carriage bolts.
* Dipped all the parts in evaporust for 6 hours and cleaned them up with a scotch bright pad and water
* Polished all the carriage bolts to a shine
* Used metal polish to clean even further
* Buffed everything good

Everything looks nice, and the lockdown bar should operate REALLY smoothly now. It's not just the looks.

The lockdown bar was painted black on top, I'll need to let that sit overnight that with some paint thinner gel. Right now it's in the evaporust tube getting an overnight dip.

Getting much closer to delivery at 37 hours.

Glamour shot...
-mof
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#141 8 years ago

Holy cats!
There are no shortcuts in pinball... 5 hours on the coin door frame/bolts and lockdown bar.
Whew...
Worth it!
-mof

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#145 8 years ago
Quoted from radium:

Yep that's a lot of work right there. Looks really good mof.

Thanks.
Looking at these photos -- it's motivating me to take a shot at learning to flatten that panel out.
Getting it all apart will also allow me to really de-rust that coin flap as well.
-mof

#146 8 years ago

Well lookie here!
Is it worth taking apart the coin door to get to the coin slot?



YES

Wow what a blast to finally clean one of these out all the way. You can eat off mine. Please don't.
-mof

BEFORE
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AFTER
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#147 8 years ago

Oh hell yes!
-mof

BEFORE
(I wasn't satisfied with just doing the .25 slots and the carriage bolts)
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(pounded out the coin door, almost flat, and cleaned up the coin slot)
AFTER

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#148 8 years ago

Player POV.
It's not perfect, it's MUCH better.
-mof

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Funny how the camera picks up so much more noise in the coin slot cover...

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1 week later
#149 8 years ago

So, doing a flipper upgrade on a 1979 Williams machine has a few extra tasks involved:

1. remove the 6 nails through the playfield, and grind them down so they are just long enough for a nut when they stick through the PF.
2. reposition the flipper assemblies to new angles so they fit properly

Tonight I finally de-rusted and polished up the 6 nails, dremeled them off, drove them back through the playfield and secured them incredibly well with some 6-32 nylon nuts. There is "just" enough clearance for the flipper assemblies (so make sure you get your lengths correct. I just used painters tape on one, and then copied it for the other 5.)

Here are some pics of the process...
-mof

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#150 8 years ago

I feel like I just won the Internet.

My G-A-R targets are:
1. dropping easily (Without self-scoring too easily just by being reset)
2. registering every time when all 3 are down

horseshoe switch targets... (sigh)

I removed the 6 screws that manage the 3 contact panels mounted on the rear of the drop target assembly.
I noticed that while there are 6 screws, it doesn't actually mean that all 3 panels are mounted squarely, since the contact points are few and diagonal from each other.

Before I tackled that issue, I took my leaf adjustment tool, and bent all 6 contacts closer to flat, since

I wondered, "What would McGyver do?" -- and so I dove into my used parts drawer, and found matching screws (but longer) and grabbed a switch spacer. One of the panels was not mounting flush, and it needed more of a reason to lay flat, so I removed one of the 6 short screws, and set a spacer across the joint between the two panels and inserted the longer screw. It helped!

(I'll take a pic tomorrow)

The result is near-perfection after 15 plays. Time for bed.

PS: I won the Internet.
-mof

#151 8 years ago

Here's the back of the 3 panels, with a little bit of extra stability. I'm giving two panels a "third leg of the table" so to speak to reduce flex-ability.

Also, just had to throw a HOT TIP out there: Save all your cracked/broken tupperware for "parts" -- I proudly have a few screws from 19+ pinball machines thrown in here (nothing from the outside world) -- and EVERY single project I work on I find 1 screw in here that I need. Also, save some/all your old EOS switches, I've re-used a lot of the parts building things that I needed in a pinch.

-mof

Stability
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Save your Parts

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2 weeks later
#153 8 years ago

The smallest of steps is STILL a valid and good step...
-mof

BEFORE
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AFTER
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#155 8 years ago
Quoted from lb1:

No question about it. The whole restoration process is many such steps. Evaporust and/or sanding and/or polishing?

I have to learn to prioritize -- especially on this project.

Just going evaporust > metal polish > wax for now.

On a few upcoming restores, I'll be more inclined to polish and then clear the prop bar.

-mof

1 week later
#157 8 years ago

39k resistors arrived from GPE, and they were swapped out.
-mof

#158 8 years ago

I did my first re-glued in insert last night.
Next time I'll use 5-minute dry not the slow-dry.
I have a few questions for vid1900, but I'll ask in his playfield thread.
-mof

Before: you can push one side and it falls into the hole, since the plastic is much narrower than the hole after 36 years.
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It's out!
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Cleaned up hole
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She's perfectly flat (took patience to achieve it)
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#159 8 years ago

~12 hours left until bullet-proofing is complete. Stay on target!
-mof

#160 8 years ago

Well, as far as I can tell, the new LED start button is a success.
-mof

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#163 8 years ago
Quoted from Pinballerchef:

Looks cool MOF! It's saying "insert finger here" Did you have any issues with the plumb bob for the TILT setting. Mine isn't cutting it....I have to hold it against the ring for a second for it to even recognize its TILTING?! I'm also having the drop target issues...right now I have it rigged to work well until my new horse show contacts come in. Thanks for posting all this....it's been helpful!

I haven't had to tinker with my tilt on this game...

As for the GAR targets from hell... (literally) -- I used deoxit on them recently, and they are performing better than ever. Will this last? I have no idea...

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/lets-have-an-honest-discussion-about-deoxit

-mof

#164 8 years ago

Left instruction card complete. I think anyone new to pinball will have a *chance* of understanding these rules.
-mof
BEFORE
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AFTER
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#165 8 years ago

Right card complete.
-mof

BEFORE
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AFTER
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#166 8 years ago

I think my friend will be stoked. He's a bit of a neat freak, and I think he'll appreciate the accurate and cleaned up cards. I like the old yellowed and tattered cards when possible.

-mof

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#167 8 years ago

Backglass touched up... And a little 1979 light show -- it has kind of an "Excalibur" with Sean Connery glow going on, I didn't touch any settings. This was all Gorgar's idea.
-mof

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#168 8 years ago

Moved the displays back and added foam to save the backglass touchups I've been working on...

2 for 1 big win, now the backglass has ZERO jiggle with a nudge. Big win...

-mof

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/displays-are-damaging-backglass

#169 8 years ago

TP results on the power supply board:

3J4, lamps, 22 VDC
3J3, solenoids, 40 VDC
3J5, logic, 5 VDC
3J5, display, 90 VDC (used the updated parts to drop this voltage -- expected)
3J6, logic, 5 VDC

So, most important, logic and displays are great, I'm wondering about lamps and solenoids. As for the brightness and power of the solenoids they all seem perfect.

-mof

#170 8 years ago

New 6-pin molex connector = cold as ice. Also sanded down the pins with 400 and cleaned them up well.
-mof

AFTER
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#171 8 years ago

As for the backglass...

* It has wear spots around 2/3/4 and player displays where the glass has rubbed against the BG.
* It has cracks in a few areas that need hairline touchups
* It has nicks here and there that are barely distracting

1. I locked it down with Krylon triple thick 0500, this has many benefits: easy to remove work without hurting the original -- makes it VERY easy to pick up and grab and not worry about ever hurting the art again. I like this.

2. I did some preparation. I reviewed all my acrylic paint to ensure I didn't have any surprises. I decided to treat myself to 8 new tiny brushes. I need to prepare even more -- I need 20+ little containers to store the mixed paint, so I can work on multiple areas at once and add layers of the SAME color when the paint dries.

3. I did some work, and learned a few things:
A. paint pools in different amounts which impacts the opacity.
B. matching paint is tricky
C. you really want to keep your coverage minimal, but you MUST cover the edges. tricky stuff
D. when you finish you want to cover in white. I'm still learning how much and why...

What about airbrushing? -- I am learning towards learning to do this finally. It wouldn't have come in handy much for this project. But I can see the advantage of covering the white this way.

Is this Gorgar a good BG to practice on?

Yes.
This Gorgar is my "cheap find -- try and learn a lot on it" machine, and it's put me to the test in many ways...

So it's very tough for me as an artist to do a "so-so" job while learning something new, but I promise to only practice on examples that have accurate reproductions (like gorgar and firepower) so that I "do no harm" -- also, I'm doing all my work on top of triple thick, so I should be able to wash all this off and start over some day when my skills are at a higher level. Right?

haha... fun times.
-mof

I'll post some before and afters when the work is done-done.

#172 8 years ago

Finishing touches:

1. set up a good coin box for friend with just a few spare parts in there and the manual
2. put black paper underneath the new score cards so that the light cannot shine through
3. solder in the 330ohm resistor for the flash bulb for the snake pit

When I finish up the backglass, I'm all done... Soooo close.

-mof

3 weeks later
#173 8 years ago

5 months later...
Today is DELIVERY day!
No injuries, and stairs were involved. (just a few scrapes and bruises)
=)
-mof

1 year later
#176 6 years ago

Fellas:
1. I didn't do the wiring
2. It's at a friend's house

I'll try to remember to grab pics next time I'm up there. I reckon there's nothing fancy going on.
-mof

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