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Reproduction Aprons

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#751 3 years ago

JWW

You know I had the apron all drawn in CAD a few years ago ready to start the ball rolling on manufacturing these. I approached the owner of the copyrighted artwork. Then it was announced on Pinside that someone else was going to make these so I backed off. I don't want to invest a bunch of money on tooling just to compete in a niche' market. Plus I don't really make much money at manufacturing repop pinball parts. It's a hobby to me.

Well it looks like I should have went ahead and made these myself if the production has stopped for some reason with tons of buyers looking for them.

I need a Fathom apron for a current project!

#752 3 years ago

DJB

djblouw

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Quoted from Gatecrasher:
You know I had the apron all drawn in CAD a few years ago ready to start the ball rolling on manufacturing these. I approached the owner of the copyrighted artwork. Then it was announced on Pinside that someone else was going to make these so I backed off. I don't want to invest a bunch of money on tooling just to compete in a niche' market. Plus I don't really make much money at manufacturing repop pinball parts. It's a hobby to me.
Well it looks like I should have went ahead and made these myself if the production has stopped for some reason with tons of buyers looking for them.
I need a Fathom apron for a current project!

I need a Fathom too. Probably could use a second Centaur at some point down the road (or the owner of the machine might). And will be getting a EBD soon that will also need one.

I sure wish these were still manufactured.

#753 3 years ago

DVE

Blitzburgh99

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Quoted from Gatecrasher:
You know I had the apron all drawn in CAD a few years ago ready to start the ball rolling on manufacturing these. I approached the owner of the copyrighted artwork. Then it was announced on Pinside that someone else was going to make these so I backed off. I don't want to invest a bunch of money on tooling just to compete in a niche' market. Plus I don't really make much money at manufacturing repop pinball parts. It's a hobby to me.
Well it looks like I should have went ahead and made these myself if the production has stopped for some reason with tons of buyers looking for them.
I need a Fathom apron for a current project!

They never made the black apron for the 1984 EBD...would love to see you take over production and get those made along with the rest! Following...

#754 3 years ago

DJB

brenna98

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Quoted from Gatecrasher:
You know I had the apron all drawn in CAD a few years ago ready to start the ball rolling on manufacturing these. I approached the owner of the copyrighted artwork. Then it was announced on Pinside that someone else was going to make these so I backed off. I don't want to invest a bunch of money on tooling just to compete in a niche' market. Plus I don't really make much money at manufacturing repop pinball parts. It's a hobby to me.

Well it looks like I should have went ahead and made these myself if the production has stopped for some reason with tons of buyers looking for them.

I need a Fathom apron for a current project!

Go for it. Nobody is stopping you.
Planetary pinball has all remaining stock, including Fathom. While you're there, you can inquire about getting a license to make aprons.
Best of luck to you.

#755 3 years ago

PBB

Pinball_Basement

Blocked

3y 468

OP
Quoted from brenna98:
Go for it. Nobody is stopping you.
Planetary pinball has all remaining stock, including Fathom. While you're there, you can inquire about getting a license to make aprons.
Best of luck to you.

To be fair you should officially say you're done with the apron business. Just so people know what to expect or not expect.

#756 3 years ago

DJB

brenna98

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Quoted from Pinball_Basement:
To be fair you should officially say you're done with the apron business. Just so people know what to expect or not expect.

ok, I guess I wasn't clear enough in past posts. I, Brenna98 am no longer making aprons with merfeldma
We're not in the same geographic location anymore, so it doesn't make sense. Plus, I work for American Pinball now; which takes up most of my time.

That said, merfeldma can do whatever he wants; should he decide to make some aprons in the future.

ALL remaining stock of aprons is with http://www.planetarypinball.com/
Do Not send me a PM asking if I have stock; the answer is NO.

#757 3 years ago

PBP

PopBumperPete

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OP
Quoted from brenna98:
ok, I guess I wasn't clear enough in past posts. I, Brenna98 am no longer making aprons with merfeldma
We're not in the same geographic location anymore, so it doesn't make sense. Plus, I work for American Pinball now; which takes up most of my time.
That said, merfeldma can do whatever he wants; should he decide to make some aprons in the future.
ALL remaining stock of aprons is with http://www.planetarypinball.com/
Do Not send me a PM asking if I have stock; the answer is NO.

thank you for what you did make

#758 3 years ago

JWW

Gatecrasher

Moline, IL

11y 67,550 1,761 7

OP
Quoted from brenna98:
Go for it. Nobody is stopping you.
Planetary pinball has all remaining stock, including Fathom. While you're there, you can inquire about getting a license to make aprons.
Best of luck to you.

You don't need a license to make the aprons or any other parts that do not include any copyrighted artwork.

#759 3 years ago

???

jj44114

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8y 56,050 1,861 19

I think most post 70’s aprons, including EBD, Fathom and TAF have copyrighted content such as the Bally name logo. You can be sure PPS will enforce it.

#760 3 years ago

BOB

CanadianPinball

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Gatecrasher I would love a few blanks or powder coated blanks

#761 3 years ago

JWW

Gatecrasher

Moline, IL

11y 67,550 1,761 7

Quoted from jj44114:
I think most post 70’s aprons, including EBD, Fathom and TAF have copyrighted content such as the Bally name logo. You can be sure PPS will enforce it.

You can make all the aprons you want as long as you don't decorate them with copyrighted artwork.

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#762 3 years ago

PPS

Planetary Pinball

Sparks, NV

11y 103K 2,277 61

So ... we are interested in getting more aprons with artwork into the world. We have the prints, and we have sources to make them, and possibly some tooling as well (needs to be checked). But, at this point the artwork is best applied somewhere near where they are made (likely Chicago Area), and that needs to be figured out. We can continue with Matt if interested or find another way. Currently we have some quality issues with some of the product that we have, so we need to get that sorted out first. Anyone with any ideas on this let us know.

#763 3 years ago

PSG

PeterG

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8y 88,300 2,144 65

I really like the magnetic ones. Hope still one will come out with great original artwork for Creature of the Black lagoon.

#764 3 years ago

BSK

Bryan_Kelly

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Lakeville, MN

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Quoted from PPS:
So ... we are interested in getting more aprons with artwork into the world. We have the prints, and we have sources to make them, and possibly some tooling as well (needs to be checked). But, at this point the artwork is best applied somewhere near where they are made (likely Chicago Area), and that needs to be figured out. We can continue with Matt if interested or find another way. Currently we have some quality issues with some of the product that we have, so we need to get that sorted out first. Anyone with any ideas on this let us know.

I'd love to help out but these days, I don't want to have to work all that much.

#765 3 years ago

MJM

merfeldma

Merf's Pins

13y 74,900 543

Rick, email sent. Short message to everyone, I would love to continue producing these lovely aprons which are stronger, more durable than the originals. Once Rick and I can figure out the logistics so I can bring more games out faster we can be back in business.

Quoted from PPS:
So ... we are interested in getting more aprons with artwork into the world. We have the prints, and we have sources to make them, and possibly some tooling as well (needs to be checked). But, at this point the artwork is best applied somewhere near where they are made (likely Chicago Area), and that needs to be figured out. We can continue with Matt if interested or find another way. Currently we have some quality issues with some of the product that we have, so we need to get that sorted out first. Anyone with any ideas on this let us know.

#766 3 years ago

MJR

mr2xbass

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Milw, WI

9y 43,650 361 2

It would be amazing if y’all could offer the shooter gauges for sale separate from the aprons instead of having to buy them as a combo. I only need the gauge and don’t wanna drop $119 for a gauge I need and an apron I don’t need.

#767 3 years ago

TOM

freddy

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Quoted from mr2xbass:
It would be amazing if y’all could offer the shooter gauges for sale separate from the aprons instead of having to buy them as a combo. I only need the gauge and don’t wanna drop $119 for a gauge I need and an apron I don’t need.

Sell the apron to offset cost iam sure it would sell!

#768 3 years ago

BKC

pinster68

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Quoted from merfeldma:
Rick, email sent. Short message to everyone, I would love to continue producing these lovely aprons which are stronger, more durable than the originals. Once Rick and I can figure out the logistics so I can bring more games out faster we can be back in business.

Cheers to that. My Flash Gordon apron from Merf was a flawless work of art. I wouldn’t hesitate to upgrade all my classic Bally aprons, starting with Future Spa.

#769 3 years ago

RJG

Atlgills

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Bride of Pinbot would be awesome!

#770 3 years ago

DUG

trilogybeer

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Elkhorn, WI

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Paragon please.

#771 3 years ago

???

ultimategameroom

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Ambler, PA

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I need a cftbl .
Operators who put their stickers in this location are a holes.

Is there a way to remove them without taking some of the artwork with it?
Previous attempts I’ve made have resulted in at least some damage.

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#772 3 years ago

PPS

Planetary Pinball

Sparks, NV

11y 103K 2,277 61

Quoted from freddy:
Sell the apron to offset cost iam sure it would sell!

We will certainly propose that as we get going on some additional stuff ...

#773 3 years ago

JFR

rockwell

Wire-Bot

Madison, WI

3y 87,550 823 8

I'll raise my hand for Embryon!

(FWIW, I am a graphic designer by trade and would be willing to help re-create layouts if needed).

#774 3 years ago

RCC

RC_like_the_cola

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Quoted from ultimategameroom:
I need a cftbl .
Operators who put their stickers in this location are a holes.
Is there a way to remove them without taking some of the artwork with it?
Previous attempts I’ve made have resulted in at least some damage.[quoted image]

I believe that is a paper sticker from TNT. If so, smear peanut butter on it and let it sit a while. The oil will let you scrape the paper portion and some of the adhesive off. Then I'd switch to goo gone, the thicker gel version until you get all the adhesive removed. I don't see any reason to replace that apron if the the sticker is all that is bothering you.

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#775 3 years ago

BOB

CanadianPinball

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Quoted from merfeldma:
Rick, email sent. Short message to everyone, I would love to continue producing these lovely aprons which are stronger, more durable than the originals. Once Rick and I can figure out the logistics so I can bring more games out faster we can be back in business.

So where did this land? PPS merfeldma

Still interested in blanks 5 years later

#776 3 years ago

B B

bbriese

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Quoted from trilogybeer:
Paragon please.

+1 for Paragon pleeeeese.

#777 3 years ago

DPF

Ballypalooza

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St Joseph, IL

9y 54,400 654 56

Following. Down for Viking like others.

#778 3 years ago

MCD

dasvis

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Quoted from PPS:
Currently we have some quality issues with some of the product that we have, so we need to get that sorted out first. Anyone with any ideas on this let us know.

Since when did PPS become concerned about quality?

#779 3 years ago

MEZ

meSz

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Quoted from dasvis:
Since when did PPS become concerned about quality?

Since they learned that they could charge a fee to buyers to inspect items (i.e. Playfield Assurance) before sending out.

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#780 3 years ago

QUY

FatPanda

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Also in for a Viking. Will follow this thread for updates.

#781 3 years ago

???

ZooDude

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Vallejo, CA

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I'd love some old Bally aprons, I need 4 mil BC and Boomerang, but those aprons are used on lots of the early Bally's.
Thanks!
B

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#782 2 years ago

FRD

RusticatedBelt

Pinside member

3y 24,650 23

Bump…PPS any chance of a White Water apron reproduction?

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#783 2 years ago

PBB

Pinball_Basement

Blocked

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Quoted from RusticatedBelt:
Bump…PPS any chance of a White Water apron reproduction?

I'm working with PPS on the details to do some aprons.

Ideally the first two would be Addams and Indiana Jones

#784 2 years ago

HEY

indypinhead

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Quoted from Pinball_Basement:
I'm working with PPS on the details to do some aprons.
Ideally the first two would be Addams and Indiana Jones

I'd love to get a new TAF apron

#785 2 years ago

guitarded

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I too could use a Bally apron or two.

Four if you make the W I D E ones, too.

#786 2 years ago

CMS

Xenon75

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11y 86,800 1,969

The wide body bally aprons are really needed. Paragon, Future Spa and Embryon almost always need them.

#787 2 years ago

KVW

Mathazar

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If we're taking votes - how about Classic Stern (I need Meteor)! Many Bally aprons have repro labels available that we can use in a pinch when refurbing those aprons, but no one is making the old Stern Electronics apron labels anymore. I'd be willing to buy a whole reproduction apron for Meteor if one was available.

#788 2 years ago

PAZ

tktlwyr

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Pembroke Pines, FL

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PARAGON!

#789 2 years ago

TSS

Tsskinne

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11y 138K 6,878 14

Classic sterns for sure are needed by lots of people right now

#790 2 years ago

RON

NYP

New York Pinball

Smithtown, NY

12y 72,800 1,382 6

Why do IJ when all you have to do is strip it, paint it black and put new decals on it? I would think you would want to do painted ones. Addams Family is an obvious good choice, IJ I just don’t get.

#791 2 years ago

JEC

bluespin

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Quoted from NYP:
Why do IJ when all you have to do is strip it, paint it black and put new decals on it? I would think you would want to do painted ones. Addams Family is an obvious good choice, IJ I just don’t get.

People prefer silk screened metal aprons, but will settle for an apron decal if they have no other choice.

#792 2 years ago

PBB

Pinball_Basement

Blocked

3y 468

Quoted from NYP:
Why do IJ when all you have to do is strip it, paint it black and put new decals on it? I would think you would want to do painted ones. Addams Family is an obvious good choice, IJ I just don’t get.

I need an ij apron, so it's partially because of that.

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#793 2 years ago

DOC

DRDAVE

Dr. Dave's Pinball

Marlborough, MA

11y 94,800 1,549 53

I need an EBD apron. Hope they make a bunch of Bally titles from this time frame as most of these need them.

#794 2 years ago

JWW

Gatecrasher

Moline, IL

11y 67,550 1,761 7

Now you can see why I won't waste my time making aprons. Too many people claiming they are going to make them but they never follow-through and leave everyone hanging. I wanted to buy some of them myself but I never could. There was always some excuse. Pretty lame.

I definitely won't be holding my breath waiting for PPS to ever follow through on anything they say. All talk no action.

#795 2 years ago

KAR

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Quoted from Gatecrasher:
Now you can see why I won't waste my time making aprons. Too many people claiming they are going to make them but they never follow-through and leave everyone hanging. I wanted to buy some of them myself but I never could. There was always some excuse. Pretty lame.
I definitely won't be holding my breath waiting for PPS to ever follow through on anything they say. All talk no action.

This doesn't quite make sense. Wouldn't it make sense to make aprons since everyone else doesn't follow through?

#796 2 years ago

???

ZooDude

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Vallejo, CA

9y 58,300 633

I've been looking into making screens for the games I'm restoring myself as it doesn't seem like these are getting made, I bought a couple extra aprons for my games so I can mess around with it. Anyone else do one off screens for their restore? How does HEP do it?
B

#797 2 years ago

MEZ

meSz

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Quoted from Gatecrasher:
Now you can see why I won't waste my time making aprons. Too many people claiming they are going to make them but they never follow-through and leave everyone hanging. I wanted to buy some of them myself but I never could. There was always some excuse. Pretty lame.
I definitely won't be holding my breath waiting for PPS to ever follow through on anything they say. All talk no action.

No sarcasm meant, serious question......if you know "too many people claiming they are going to make them but they never follow-through and leave everyone hanging" then why would it be a "waste of time" for you to make them?

Big issue with aprons is that you need to be able to cut and bend metal and then paint them. Not to mention how many different styles of aprons were made over the years.

#798 2 years ago

???

Nhpolarbear

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4y 37,050 770 1

I believe HEP airbrushes flaws on aprons.

Vote for Embryon and Paragon.

#799 2 years ago

???

ZooDude

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Vallejo, CA

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Quoted from Nhpolarbear:
I believe HEP airbrushes flaws on aprons.
Vote for Embryon and Paragon.

Man, you'd have to have a pinstripers hand to do those early Bally aprons, don't think I have that in me!
B

#800 2 years ago

???

Nhpolarbear

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Hope this helps

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