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Report TBL from Dutch Pinball Open EXPO 2015

By Rensh

8 years ago


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#1 8 years ago

This weekend 7+8 november it is going to be showtime at DPO EXPO in Drunen NL.

For all you guys not being able to go to the party I will report from there. Show starts saturday but being organizer enables me to give you guys some sneak previews on Friday already

So stay tuned. It is going to be fun

#2 8 years ago

Placeholder for pictures videos etc.

#3 8 years ago

Just hoping the games make it ! Meeting a timeline they set just a couple weeks ago (publicly) would go a long way to getting some excitement going again after expo was pretty deflating.

Tip for DP: if additional hiccups have happened in the last two weeks, send us a NSNL *before* the show starts

#4 8 years ago

Thanks Rens (and PDXMonkey) for being our eyes on the ground....looking forward to the updates...

#5 8 years ago

From the DP Facebook Page.....Presentation at 2:15

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#6 8 years ago

That's 5:15AM PST . any streaming happening?

#7 8 years ago
Quoted from sd_tom:

any streaming happening?

Not sure....Rens may know...

#8 8 years ago
Quoted from sd_tom:

any streaming happening?

Spreekt u Nederlands?

#9 8 years ago

It says (EN) after the talk name in the schedule, I assumed that meant English?

#10 8 years ago

Yep it is in English (EN)

Unfortunately no live streaming sorry guys, the Internet facility is very poor where we have it. It's a beautiful place but the ICT part sucks

It will be filmed however and will try to get it uploaded asap

#11 8 years ago

Much appreciated If you are able to film it. Seeing it a bit later is a lot better than not seeing anything at all.

I am counting on some detailed reports this weekend from the Dutch mafia

#12 8 years ago
Quoted from Rensh:

Yep it is in English (EN)

Good deal! I had assumed that it would be the same as last year.

#13 8 years ago

Waiting
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#14 8 years ago

Posted this in the DPO thread as well....here is Barry and Jaap being interviewed by Radio 1 at DPO. Posted on FB today.

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#15 8 years ago

No more waiting they are here !!!

Ain't this a beautiful sight

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#16 8 years ago

Switch adjusting by Jules

Has to be perfect for us after all

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#17 8 years ago

Wish I was there..... Keep the pics coming please? Thanks for being our eyes at the DPO gentlemen.

#18 8 years ago
Quoted from Rensh:

Switch adjusting by Jules

I'm just glad that was a belt strap rather than a butt crack....

#19 8 years ago

Wow! 5 in a row, that's how you launch a game.

Edit: and a Bride.

#20 8 years ago

Come back OP, tell us more. Any new code? Any footage?

#21 8 years ago

I would love to hear the revised music.

#22 8 years ago

Hope for good long gameplay videos.

Use twitch or other video upload options if youtube is killing the sound again please.

#23 8 years ago

When can we expect to see video of the game and or the seminar

#24 8 years ago

They had a bunch at Expo in Chicago but I forgot to play them.

#25 8 years ago

Time in Drunen, Netherlands:
7:11 AM
Saturday, 7 November 2015 (GMT+1)

It's early morning there now, DPO officially starts today, so it could be a while before reports start filtering through. Maybe tonight after Day 1, in 12 hours or so.

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#26 8 years ago
Quoted from dmbjunky:

They had a bunch at Expo in Chicago but I forgot to play them.

Those were prototypes, the same machines that they had at Chicago Expo in 2014 (with some minor software changes). The ones at DPO this year are engineering samples, greatly refined inside and with more advanced software, so we should see some big improvements. Exciting times

#27 8 years ago

I'll post a video tonight when I find some Wifi

Swear I heard some CCR yesterday...

#28 8 years ago

Sorry to say you didn't hear original CCR music yesterday. Inside the machine is now instrumental viver version which sounds exact like the original to what I heard. Only no voice, just instruments.

Must admit it was not bad at all and much better as I expected. My brain added the voice by itself

Yesterday to many things to do building up a show but expect to have more time today so stay tuned

Hope to have the seminar online in a couple of days

#29 8 years ago

Thanks for your efforts. Will you be able to summarize the seminar high points tomorrow?

Really hoping for a look at the updated code too.

#30 8 years ago

Looks like we won't be seeing significantly updated code - below is a copy/paste of a post I made in the TBL Preorder thread quoting a post by burningman:

Quoted from burningman:

Hey Guys....regarding Code I was wrong....I just got a note from Koen....this is what he said regarding code....sorry for the miscommunication...I suck.
"Code is about the same as Expo but tweaked for the Engineering Sample machines. New since Expo are a simple implementation for the rug modes (think White Water rafts), a super jackpot in multiball, the new Music and various tweaks of graphics and code. I would still call this alpha code - so early days!"
I will now sit on the sidelines and let those that are there give us the straight scoop....

This is really disappointing - I understand the delays in the manufacturing process, but I'm baffled why a game that was meant to ship in Q2 is still running alpha code. If the five pre-production models hold up well this weekend and they soon begin to manufacture games, can we expect them to ship with this alpha code too?

#31 8 years ago

Some gameplay in SD Quality. When i am at home i Will upload Also in HD quality

What's stated in the previous post is also what I understood. So improved code over expo, incl rug mode, new music etc

#32 8 years ago

I hear a nice Santana cover in that video...

#33 8 years ago

Jaap now on stage

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#34 8 years ago

Hardware

Launch button is changed because the other one broke

Light pipes are in ES and work great (can testify to that)

Spinner design changed

Roof upper playfields changed

Flow improvement left ramp diverted

Painted Brunswick return

White Russian under 6.5 degrees to have it horizontal in the pin

Clear starburst characters

Bowling Windows will change to avoid the scratches as seen on ES version

Better display twice resolution

Lightning back box will change to 1 led strip with a light guider plate

Hope I made not a mistake typing as Jaap speaking pls watch video seminar later on

#35 8 years ago

thanks Rens....

#36 8 years ago

Software

Jesus scene not allowed to use from licensor because of eagle music, not allowed to cut audio from image and just use image

5 songs instrumental version in TBL
NOT midi files

Still work in progress
Final approval still pending

Everything shown on DPO is approved

Rulesheet is deep enough can be seen on website not as deep as lotr

Batch number 3 bop2.0 is garantueed

Bop20 rule sheet is seen as example for TBL

John Goldman clip shown to end rumour of John Goodman not in game

TBL will be hooked up to internet like bop20

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#37 8 years ago

Q And A

US market is bigger as Europe

New pricing is higher as pre order. Pricing To be asked to distributor

There will a second pin. List of 300 themes they love......

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#38 8 years ago
Quoted from Rensh:

Jesus scene not allowed to use from licensor because of eagle music, not allowed to cut audio from image and just use image

Can you expand on this? Do you mean the CGI Jesus they showed just shining his ball is cut, or do you mean no Jesus movie clips as well.. If the latter, I will need a drink..

#39 8 years ago

No no just the scene of Jesus licking the bowling ball was referred to !!!!

That was the scene with the eagle
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Typing and listening at same time is more of a challenge as I thought.

No drinks for you

#40 8 years ago

Great report! Thanx

#41 8 years ago
Quoted from Rensh:

No no just the scene of Jesus licking the bowling ball was referred to !!!!

So his introduction sequence is out.. Which, does suck, still. Wondering if this is because after the rules of music licensing was clear they said fuck it and not doing any sort of licensing with music and universal? Cause by their previous statements, playing the music in its original context was the one thing that was allowed? So?

Would it follow then that no scenes with anything all that could be considered licenced music are out? That's the taxi scene (more eagles), the intro (tumbling tumbleweed), etc.. So confusing what made the Jesus intro diff from the rest.

Licensing sucks. Hopefully they can work magic around it.

I would be expect their game #3 to be unlicensed after all this.

#42 8 years ago

Thanks for the great reports! Please keep them coming.

#43 8 years ago

Yes - thank you very much for the TBL updates and enjoy the DPO Expo!

#44 8 years ago

20 years from now, a boy will ask his dad why pinball couldnt make it. Licensing son, they couldn't get the licenses.

#45 8 years ago

HD gameplay of 3 games now uploading to YouTube

Going to bed now hope to post the links tomorrow morning

#46 8 years ago

If its the same account on youtube I'll just look at the sd and see

#47 8 years ago

The SD one can be seen on HD now at

And yes it is the same account so the other 2 should pop while I am asleep

#48 8 years ago

Goes quicker as expected and my sleep not

Number 2 :

Give YouTube some time for processing

#49 8 years ago

And number 3

#50 8 years ago

Thanks for the vids, Rensh! Looking great and the music sounds awesome. Instrumentals of the real songs was absolutely the right move - the compositions sound great (even in the crowded room) and evoke happy feelings of the movie. "The Stranger" voice is a perfect narrator for the game, and the game is much better without the female voice over.

Dutch is killing it into the home stretch!

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