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ReplayFX 2017 + Pinburgh

By epthegeek

6 years ago


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    #559 6 years ago
    Quoted from chuckwurt:

    Sandbagging is to blame for this.

    I see a lot of people saying this, but providing little evidence. Not only are people saying this, they are advocating changes in the format to combat it. Changes that would make Pinburgh not Pinburgh, like 'allow people to choose a division beforehand.' This just leaves us with 4 separate tournaments. It doesn't give the first timers the opportunity to play with the World Champions. It isn't the largest tournament ever, every year.

    As for sandbagging itself, [FACT] there is no indication that it is a widespread problem. [OPINION] I would be surprised if it was, because the potential gains are not very high [it isn't cheap to come to Pittsburgh and 1) stay here for 3-4 nights, and 2) pay for entry to Pinburgh/Replay, and 3) pay for food/incidentals, 4) all while missing work].

    What caused 33 wins to make the cut was less than 1/4 of the field made it into A with a cut-line of 33.5. Therefore, 33 finds itself inside the cut for A. That's it. All people with 33 are placed into A. They used to do a playoff for this (can you imagine 53 people playing off for 5 spots?) and they used to let people choose which way to go, but now the rule is everyone tied on a cut-line will be put in the higher division.

    How about, as a different suggested change: if you hear someone talking about how they want to lose a game to end up in B (C or D), say something. To somebody. Personally I would say something to them, but if you didn't feel comfortable with that (completely understandable) - say something to a TD. Anybody doing that is taking away from the Pinburgh the rest of us are paying for. Maybe the TDs could issue them a warning and that would solve the problem. Maybe it would come to something else. Whatever it came to would be on that player for their decisions and not you for speaking up.

    One other note - qualifying for finals from 33 points happened.

    #561 6 years ago
    Quoted from Whysnow:

    saw two groups in the same row with people plunging balls and walking away.

    Assuming you were sure that this wasn't a "winning as player 4 on last ball" situation, did you say something to a TD (or them)?

    #564 6 years ago
    Quoted from flynnibus:

    What is in the rules against this?

    "4. Interference, Collusion, and Cheating

    Any player who intentionally interferes with tournament play or otherwise disrupts the tournament setting will be warned and/or ejected from the tournament, at the discretion of tournament officials.

    Any form of cheating, including game restarts, tampering with games, tampering with recorded results, scorekeeper intimidation or collusion, or anything else not covered here, will be addressed by tournament officials as appropriate, including disqualification and/or ejection from the tournament.

    Any collaborative effort between players in an attempt to unfairly affect the outcome of the competition, or to “lock out” a third player, or to otherwise refrain from making the best possible competitive effort on each and every game played, will be looked upon very poorly by tournament officials, and may result in disciplinary action, including disqualification and/or ejection from the tournament."

    I don't know how to bold on this site, but the third paragraph covers it. Reason for edit: I forgot I added the first paragraph.

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