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Replacing the 8-track player in Midway Haunted House with a sound card

By HisboyElroy

9 years ago


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    #65 6 years ago
    Quoted from AMX:

    Yes, I used a wall wart for the audio boards. I used the 115v of the 8 track player to feed the 4.5v wall wart. Jacks are for speaker output. Each audio board have their output speaker jacks and both are pluged in the original amp of the game. I did it that way because like that I keep the original speaker and still had the gun shot sound. The "pow" is generated by a section on the amp. I used 2 audio boards expressly to have the music played continually during the game. Both audio boards are trigged by the relay bord. 4 relay, music, cat, witch and monster.
    On the start button, I add a new leaf switch who trig the background music board so when I push the start button both audio boards are powered and music start.
    Yes, all original wires and plugs are still there. The 8 track player is completly gone. Only hacking I did is on the 30 degree relay, I unsoldered the +16v wire and I did a jumper between both switch to feed ground (from a power supply I did to feed 5v to the new relay board) to the relay board who trig the sound and music boards.
    The sound file play one sound after each other. If I remember right, I think I can choose a ramdom option too. Music plays in loop until the game is over.
    Ok, hope you understand me a little bit?!!
    I did a schematic in the past, I will try to find it and I will post it here.

    This is amazing!!!! I have actually used these boards a few times myself in much simpler projects. See below...

    I'd actually donate you £20 for a schematic and a detailed breakdown of the project. My 8 track is running slow as I'm in the UK and running on 50hz plus since realigning the heads it's not the greatest. So this is perfect for me. Looking forward to nice crisp digital audio dripping majestically from my vintage speaker.

    #66 6 years ago

    Yep your solution for extending the loom without hacking is way more professional than mine....just a offcut of plastic and copper foil. The pic shows part of the 8 track head realignment process. Such fun...sarcasm intended.

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    #75 6 years ago
    Quoted from AMX:

    Pic of the 5vdc power supply I added to feed the relay board...

    Massive round of applause to AMX. Awesome work. Could you please supply a link to the 5vdc supply. Once again awesome work.

    #77 6 years ago
    Quoted from AMX:

    This is not exactely the one I've used but something similar... I bought a cheap DIY kit on ebay.
    Very simple little circuit with a LM7805 voltage regulator... Lot of info and DIY on the web...

    Ordered. I have the sound modules and relay cluster so all I need is connectors and wire and I'm good to go. Once again many thanks.

    #78 6 years ago

    Progressing nicely...

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    #80 6 years ago
    Quoted from PACMAN:

    Sweet! Build me one too

    Lol... it's actually a fun build. Plus if I can do it then literally anyone can. Just waiting for my 5v regulator board and the resistors to turn up.

    #83 6 years ago
    Quoted from AMX:

    IMPORTANT NOTE about the 5v PS board.
    I just remembered, on mine the polarity was inversed so when 15vac will be pluged, double check the 5vdc output polarity on yours to be sure positive is on the positive side of the connector!

    Cheers for the info on that. I'll double check. Just waiting for the 3k resistors and the 5vdc PS. And thanks for the kind words I cant wait to get this installed!!! Pure digital goodness dripping from my speaker. ...YES PLEASE !!!!

    #86 6 years ago
    Quoted from dasvis:

    How slick would this be if you enclosed it in the original 8-track case?

    Its actually pretty doable. The only outer difference would be the connect for the music switch and the +5vdc for the relay cluster. You could even cut and old 8 track tape in half, get rid of the spool and hot melt the case to the slot making it look like there's a tape still in there. Print off a cool label even. Now you got me thinking....

    #88 6 years ago
    Quoted from dasvis:

    Photos when it's done!

    I think i'll let the next person who tries this upgrade go that extra mile... I just want my machine up and running with digital sound. Plus my deck could go to some one that needs the parts. Its in good shape just no good for the 50hz supply here in the UK. Plus the heads need tweaking to be fully aligned. Other than that its ok. I even have a few spare pre-amp chips.

    #89 6 years ago

    Today's progress... completed the board wiring. Modified the 30deg relay. Fed the wire for the +5vdc for the PS. Converted the start button to double stack to activate the background sounds. Note the use of greenstuff to extend the pusher. Getting close. Just waiting for the PS board to drop through my letter box.

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    #90 6 years ago

    If anyone is interested I have placed an add in the market place for the sale of my original 8 Track with spares here is a link to the ebay listing. selling this way to make shipping easier.

    check out the link for info...

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/273094836399?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649

    #92 6 years ago
    Quoted from JeffF:

    Good deal at $160US shipped IMHO. Almost hit the BIN button and I don't even need it. LOL.
    Hoping to work on my mp3/relay upgrade this week. Have some ideas that should make it just about plug-n-play... or that's the plan at least.

    To be honest I'd take less, I'm just wanting to help anyone that needs the parts. My digital upgrade is complete. Just received the 5vdc PS today and fitted it. Result is amazing. Absolutely love it. But had some issues with the bottom carriage molex connectors that I want to put to bed before I post any vids of the game working. The cosmetic stuff is done and I'm really happy with the result. Just need to chill for a couple of days before attacking those connectors. Been on night shift so I'm shattered.

    #94 6 years ago

    Complete digital conversion and final cosmetic stuff done.

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    #96 6 years ago
    Quoted from Coindork:

    Pretty awesome.
    We have a Midway Big Top Twin Rifle that came with the optional 8 track player for background music (not interactive sound with the game, just background music).
    I haven't been able to find the original 8 track for it.
    I wound up buying a box set organ music 8 tracks off eBay for like $12 called "the magic organ" and it sounds pretty rad with the game play.
    » YouTube video
    Heres what the game looks like.

    I need to see that in operation. Great combo! !!!

    #98 6 years ago
    Quoted from JBK:

    Great application. Many, many possibilities!

    All thanks to AMX great work!!!!

    #100 6 years ago
    Quoted from JeffF:

    Looks(and sounds) great Kev!!! The only thing I noticed is that I think the background sound is supposed to cut out when other sounds play(at least that's how my game is). BUT, BUT, BUT I like how your background plays all the time during the game in addition to the supporting sounds.
    This seems like the reason for the added switch to the start button... I think? The way I'm implementing my solution with mimic the original game... but I may try to change it to mimic your(and AMX's) solution. Again, awesome job guys!!! It's great people are sharing information freely like they used to do on the ol' internets.

    Yup you are spot on. That's why I like AMX's solution so much. It just seems more natural the way the music plays continuously. And yeah I love the fact that we can share the love on this project. AMX has really opened a lot of doors for people with the same predicament. I'm lucky to have used these boards before so I'm familiar with the programing. But they really are simple to work with.

    #102 6 years ago
    Quoted from AMX:

    Kev, I'm happy to see all went well with the project! Hope to see other member's projects with this setup.
    Long life to all the HH!

    I'm absolutely stoked with the result. The amps in these machines are so sweet and warm sounding probably due to the ancient but we'll considered solid state design. Coupled with the digital input you just can't go wrong with this solution. Love it!!!

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