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Replaced William's chimes

By Smirnoff

6 years ago


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#2 6 years ago

I only have one Williams game right now with a chime box and I replaced that box with a Gottlieb box. Good job with the chimes, but I've found one problem with Williams chimes is the poor chime box. Did you do anything to change that?

What kind of washers are those immediately below the hairpin clip?

#6 6 years ago
Quoted from KenLayton:

Great idea to use hairpin clips! I would have never thought about that. Makes servicing much easier.
Where did you purchase the xylophone bars and cushions?

I'm interested in this too, because if I can make it better, I'd put the Williams chime unit back in and use my Gottlieb unit elsewhere.

The hairpin clips are a much better idea than that bar that Williams used.

#11 5 years ago
Quoted from CactusJack:

You will never get a better sound than with a Gottlieb or Bally Chime assembly as they both used "Tuned" sound boxes below the chime bars. They are ported and the compartment is tuned to the notes. This produces sound waves that come back out of the sound box and cause the chime bar to continue to resonate and produce a sustained and louder tone. Williams cheapened out and simply used an open box which does not trap as much of the sound and does not feed it back as well to the bars. In fact, each strike of one bar causes the other ones to "join in" producing the sound that is unique to Williams. Using your narrower Xylophone bars allows even more to leak past the bars and kill the resonance to some degree.
The clank of a williams is just a matter or restoring it to all the proper parts. Specifically the foam washer that was used below. This keeps the bar from rattling on the frames. The neoprene tubing keeps the bar off the stand ups and the upper parts pin it down to reduce its ability to sway from side to side (edges striking the frame).
From what I recall, Williams and Gottlieb used Aluminum bars. Bally used steel ones which cause them to have a different sound too (like your Xylophone bars).

I've rebuilt multiple Williams units, Bally units, Gottlieb units, all using the correct parts. Williams units just clank. Sure, they're improved some, but as you pointed out, it's the sound box that is the issue, and if that is unchanged, the chimes still sound sick. They're just junk. They had great sounding bells but their chimes are horrible.

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