(Topic ID: 231818)

Removing coin relays

By swampwiz

5 years ago



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  • Latest reply 5 years ago by John_I
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    #1 5 years ago

    As I have my (Bally, Gottlieb, Williams) EMs in no-coin mode (i.e., the credit button works if there is "0" showing on the credit wheel, by simply making the switch that is supposed to be open when at "0" be closed all the time), I am wondering if I could simply remove all the relays dealing with the coins, thereby being able to cannibalize the parts off of these (i.e., coils, switches) to use elsewhere. It seems that all I would need to do is to make the default open just be cut away and make the default closed just be tied.

    For example, looking at Jack In The Box:

    The X (2 PLAY) relay is only actuated (besides a hold by itself) if the "1 COIN 2 PLAYS" pin is set.

    The W (3RD CHUTE) relay is only actuated (besides a hold by itself) by a default OFF switch of X.

    The Y (2 COINS) relay is only actuated (besides a hold by itself) if the "2 COINS 1 PLAY" pin is set.

    It seems that by doing this, I avoid a whole lot of issues of the switches of these relays having to be ON as per default ON.

    Is this a good idea?

    #2 5 years ago

    NO! Leave things alone.

    If you ever sell the machine the new owner may want the coin equipment to work. By removing things, I would consider it "hacked" and worth considerably less money.

    #3 5 years ago

    I just cannot see that anything is gained by what you propose. All of the parts gained are readily available and as Ken says such a change to originality devalues the machine.

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    #4 5 years ago

    Well, a blade top fell off of one of these, so I just took it out, and have already found 2 places that are using the cannibalization.

    I don't think anyone but the hardest core collector gives 2 shiits about this. In any case, as a standard procedure, I always strip down the coin door to the bare essentials that give the outside the same view of stuff as if everything were intact.

    All that said, it is not worth taking anything out unless it is already broken.

    #5 5 years ago
    Quoted from swampwiz:

    Well, a blade top fell off of one of these, so I just took it out, and have already found 2 places that are using the cannibalization.
    I don't think anyone but the hardest core collector gives 2 shiits about this. In any case, as a standard procedure, I always strip down the coin door to the bare essentials that give the outside the same view of stuff as if everything were intact.
    All that said, it is not worth taking anything out unless it is already broken.

    You asked in your original post whether this was a good idea; then infer who cares; then suggest not worth doing anyway. I am a tad confused.

    #6 5 years ago

    I disconnect the coil on the coin door but leave it in place. This keeps it from heating and buzzing for no reason. Other than that, I don't remove or bypass anything except maybe something like a 115 volt hold relay if it is already burned and stopped functioning.

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