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Remove Rust from Ramp Flap

By deanearp

7 years ago


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#1 7 years ago

The picture is from the right ramp flap on my IJ pinball machine (sorry about the flash but you get the idea of what I'm dealing with). I was going to replace it but after reading about removing the rivets and then re-riveting, I am starting to think about re-bluing the ramp. I don't have any tools to put the rivets back in with and am worried that I could crack the plastic if I go with one of the less expensive riveting options (using a rollover die and hitting it with a hammer). Additionally, these ramps don't seem too easy to come by.
So, my question is has anybody salvaged a ramp flap that is pitted like the one pictured? If so, any hints would be great. Of course, I am open to any ideas that anybody has.

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#6 7 years ago

As I have read more, I am starting to think that putting rivets back in is something I can do. I have a nice drill press and with the head die on the base and the rollover die chucked in the press, I'd have a nice rivet press. I found a picture on line of what I'm gonna make (of course the rivet dies will be different than what is pictured, but you get the idea). My plan now is to dremel the rivets out then re-blue the ramp then re-attach. Of course, I'll practice first.

Anybody who has a critique about this idea, PLEASE chime in as sometimes something that seems like a good idea in theory is not good in practice.

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#13 7 years ago
Quoted from pinsanity:

Gun Blue works well.
Any gun shops in Texas?

I don't know of any, Texans are not very fond of guns--most gun shops get run out of town pretty quick around here!

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#19 7 years ago
Quoted from Imeh:

I wouldn't hesitate to replace it, rivit it yourself if you are comfortable doing it. Greatest issue is making sure you have the proper rivet length.

Fortunately, Planetary Pinball has a parts manual and I was able to find the exact length of the rivet. I am one of those hard headed types that likes to try things that are new. Getting that part of, taking the blue off, buffing it with steel wool, then re-bluing and re-riveting it back on is the "right way" to do it. If I am going to get good at restoring then I need to learn the skills. Hopefully, no cracks!!

#22 7 years ago
Quoted from Imeh:

You will do fine, not that hard. I would consider buying a new flap, pre blued, if you can. You can certainly buff off the rust and polish it, but the bluing kits can't match the finish or durability of the factory heated process.

I looked all over for replacement ramp flaps for IJ. The only place I found them was at Pinbits but unfortunately I have not gotten a response to an e-mail and also when I call their number there is some recording that "call cannot be completed".

Anybody know of any other place that has replacement ramps?

#28 7 years ago

So here is the update. After then before pics below. I ended up taking the ramp flap off the plastic ramp. Did that by using a Dremel with the cut-off wheel and removed the rolled over part of the rivets. Then removed the old bluing with Birchwood-Casey Blu and Rust Remover. After that, some sanding down, then buffing with steel wool. After that, heated up the flap on the stove and submerged it in a bowl of the Perma Blue. For anybody who is going to do this, the instructions do not mention getting the metal hot but, trust me, you will get MUCH deeper bluing if the metal is HOT. You want it hot enough to hear a "sizzle" when you put it in the Perma Blue. Repeated this about 3 times. Then rubbed it down with some gun oil, let it cure overnight. Then applied some paste wax and re-riveted it on. Regarding rivets, get the dies and rivets from pinrestore.com. Get the bottom and top dies, use a drill press if you've got one, works awesome. Just thought I'd share so if somebody needs to do this, they'll have this as an option to help. Thanks to all of you who gave me advice, I appreciate it very much.

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