(Topic ID: 74019)

Remove non-original paint and leave original intact? RESULTS NOW!


By Frax

7 years ago



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  • Latest reply 7 years ago by Frax
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#1 7 years ago

So this game we just picked up has some green paint that was put directly over the original art on the front, right side, and the riser. I want it gone. The original art is still there right under it. I sanded off a bit to see if there was any primer or anything between this green crap and the original and there isnt. Doesnt even look like they sanded the original art, just brushed it on right over it. I am willing to bet it is latex paint to boot based on te way it sands off. Is there something I can do to get it off without jacking up the orignal paint real bad or is sandingvery carefully
The only viable option if I want to try and preserve the original paint as much as possible?

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So we did end up buying a bottle of the Motsenbockers, 8 bucks at home depot, and we used about 3/4ths of the bottle doing the right side of the cabinet. We still need to do the coin door, the right side of the head and the front of the riser. Might have to buy one more bottle, but definitely a worthy project for 16 bucks and some sweat equity.

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#2 7 years ago

I've had really good luck using Goof-off and a plastic putty knife to remove latex paint from pinball cabinets (and my kitchen cabinets too). Pour a little directly on the cab and the latex will bubble up in 10-15 seconds. Scrape the paint up and wipe the area clean with a rag. Just be careful not to leave the Goof-off on there for too long as it will eventually start to remove the original paint.

#3 7 years ago

Worth a shot.. sounds good to me. I have a putty knife already from doing side rails.

#4 7 years ago
Quoted from erichill:

I've had really good luck using Goof-off and a plastic putty knife to remove latex paint from pinball cabinets (and my kitchen cabinets too). Pour a little directly on the cab and the latex will bubble up in 10-15 seconds. Scrape the paint up and wipe the area clean with a rag. Just be careful not to leave the Goof-off on there for too long as it will eventually start to remove the original paint.

+1 on the Goof-off. Try it with a rag 1st good and soaked of Goof-off. It really helps when it sits on the paint to removed for awhile. Just lightly back and forth over the old latex paint.

#5 7 years ago

With Latex Paint, I've used a product called Lift Off with great success. It especially works well on fabrics and furniture. But the disclaimer - I've never used on any of my machines, so proceed with caution. But it may be worth a shot as I think it's a less aggressive option than Goof Off.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Motsenbockers-22-oz-Latex-Based-Paint-Remover-Lift-Off-5-413-01/100047250#

#6 7 years ago

Home Depot sells something called mottsenbochers ( spelling is probably wrong) paint remover . It is pretty mild and won't remove the original paint. I have used this with a sponge to remove entire reprints. It is a slow process, but does work.

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#7 7 years ago

Well, it's definitely latex. Was able to remove some of it with just rubbing alcohol and the underlying paint is left intact no problem. It will take FOREVER and a crapton of rags, so I'm still going to try some other things, like the goof-off to speed it up, then use the alcohol to finish the little fiddly bits like the coin door.

#8 7 years ago

Bump....check out the results above!

#9 7 years ago

Looks GREAT! Congrats!

The original artwork still looks great. Who/Why would you cover that up?? Some people are just crazy

#10 7 years ago

Dumb question - why was this painted over in the first place? The cab doesn't look like it's in such shape that would make me think about painting anything, let alone just covering everything with green...

Impressive results though.

#11 7 years ago

Wow, congrats! Why the heck did someone cover up the original I wonder. Looks to be in great shape.

#13 7 years ago

Looking good. Was the original paint damaged? Or did they just paint over it to cover up the art work? Good for you that the person that painted it green did not prep the original paint work. I would suggest to wipe the cabinet off with alcohol, or thinner, or a water based cleaner, to neutralize the paint remover.

#14 7 years ago
Quoted from Purpledrilmonkey:

Dumb question - why was this painted over in the first place? The cab doesn't look like it's in such shape that would make me think about painting anything, let alone just covering everything with green...
Impressive results though.

No idea why...

Bought Naptha to clean off all the rest of the scudge and get rid of the paint thinner, but also have alcohol on hand if it does anything funky in a test spot.

I don't see any damage on what we've uncovered. It's just planked a little. Tiny flakes missing here or there but it's not chipping off, it's where it's been dinged by something/someone.

#15 7 years ago

Wow! That looks great!

#16 7 years ago
Quoted from Purpledrilmonkey:

Dumb question - why was this painted over in the first place?

Some religious people fear snakes.

#17 7 years ago

holy cow! looks awesome. Someone covered up that cool art!

#18 7 years ago

Here's the front and the head side.

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#19 7 years ago

Wow, that came out great

#20 7 years ago

excellent results, congratulations !

#21 7 years ago
Quoted from btw75:

Why the heck did someone cover up the original

Because they are morons.

Wow. Very nice work!

(Anyone else who didn't know what pin this is, it's Stern Magic.)

#22 7 years ago

Thanks for all the comments. This is my first time removing paint like this.. short of the chemical burns that have cracked up my fingertips (My wife used gloves, I didn't....just as well, we didn't have enough.) it wasn't that bad. The only thing I would suggest to anyone trying to do this is to actually place it so the side you are working on is flat. The stuff I used is like water consistency....it doesn't stay where you spray it, it just runs down the cabinet. Would work a lot better if it could just sit on the paint for 20-30 seconds..it's not super-uber-solvent like Goof-off, it needs a little time to work.....but work it does.

#23 7 years ago

You should send a pic to the people you bought it from. They wouldn't even believe it was the same game, lol.

#24 7 years ago

if you ever decide to paint it green again, you buy the paint and beer and i will be right over-

#25 7 years ago
Quoted from lladnip:

if you ever decide to paint it green again, you buy the paint and beer and i will be right over-

LOL. That would be hilarious if the person that did it actually posted here.

I do have the guy's email I bought it from...told him when I bought it I would strip it down...I didn't try and haggle the price at all....boards were already rebuilt, plays good, playfield is nice, plastics are nice, and the cabinet....well.....I had a feeling it was salvgeable.

#26 7 years ago

well done

#27 7 years ago

I think if I take this to TPF, I'm gonna have to put something on the apron or backglass that has these pics on it, LOL.

#28 7 years ago

Original art looks great. You saved another one.

#29 7 years ago

My Mata Hari was painted with red latex (just the lower cab). Probably because it has some boobage. I did not do near as well stripping it and had to redo the whole cab. You did some great work. Nice!

#30 7 years ago

Amazing, the green paint has probably preserved it for a number of years.

#31 7 years ago
Quoted from RCA1:

Because they are morons.

+1

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#32 7 years ago
Quoted from futurepinhead:

Amazing, the green paint has probably preserved it for a number of years.

ya kinda like a protective clear, (only green).

#33 7 years ago
Quoted from lladnip:

ya kinda like a protective clear, (only green).

That's it, I'm brushing opaque latex paint on all my playfields!

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