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Remove everything from cabinet

By borna

2 years ago


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#1 2 years ago

Hello all,
Thinking to buy this pinball which requires some repairs on the cabinets.
So my question is how difficult or time consuming is to remove all the electronics from the cabinets so it can be prepared for repair and painting?
is this something should a beginner that never done it should consider?

#2 2 years ago

will you need to remove the braiding for this repair?

#3 2 years ago
Quoted from russdx:

will you need to remove the braiding for this repair?

Well I want to remove everything from the cabinet so I can only have the woods send it a friend shop for repair, paint and etc.
Now as far as the braiding, can it stays in the cabine?

#4 2 years ago

If you are using a heat gun or or heat source the electronics need to be protected or removed. Overspraying the interior with paint might require taking the guts out of the cab. That said, are there enough electronics in a modern pin backbox to be worried about or can it be re-decaled without an issue?

#5 2 years ago

Actually this is an EM pinball. Would that makes it even more challenging?

#6 2 years ago

No it's easy enough to take everything out of an EM. Might have to pull a few staples.

See Vid's Guide for removing side rails, that is probably the toughest part.

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#7 2 years ago

no its easy to get the motor board out of an em, also easy to take off the door and associated harness. easy to take out the components from the head and then have two empty wood boxes. Only "tricky" thing is if you want to remove the metal rails for the repaint.

#8 2 years ago
Quoted from dr_nybble:

No it's easy enough to take everything out of an EM. Might have to pull a few staples.
See Vid's Guide for removing side rails, that is probably the toughest part.

Great. Looking forward for the challenge
The pinball has a new playing field but cabinet is in a horrible shape, cracks, dents, scratches, broken pieces of wood.
So need a major repair, paint, new stenciles.

One other question. Is it easy to make new cabinet by reverse engineer the existing one?

#9 2 years ago
Quoted from borna:

Great. Looking forward for the challenge
Is it easy to make new cabinet by reverse engineer the existing one?

easier if you have the equipment to make accurate cuts and compound angle joints.

since modern glues are a lot better, usually people keep the joinery simple and it's strong enough, so they don't make the cabinet the same way and only the dimensions matter.

if your current cabinet is too far gone to repair, I'd consider trying to find another cabinet from a parts machine that's in better shape and start with that. Making a cabinet from plywood sheets is only economical if the labor is free and you already have the needed equipment.

typically the only cabinet that can't be repaired is rot / termite damage or massive delamination of the plywood layers - or swollen/moldy particle board if the cabinet used that.

#10 2 years ago
Quoted from baldtwit:

easier if you have the equipment to make accurate cuts and compound angle joints.
since modern glues are a lot better, usually people keep the joinery simple and it's strong enough, so they don't make the cabinet the same way and only the dimensions matter.
if your current cabinet is too far gone to repair, I'd consider trying to find another cabinet from a parts machine that's in better shape and start with that. Making a cabinet from plywood sheets is only economical if the labor is free and you already have the needed equipment.
typically the only cabinet that can't be repaired is rot / termite damage or massive delamination of the plywood layers - or swollen/moldy particle board if the cabinet used that.

actually I saw a few videos on youtbe regarding as how to fix / repair the woods and not that bad. basically the process is very easy and straight
forward. It seems bondo is the fix

#12 2 years ago

wow, beautiful. Thanks for the link

#13 2 years ago
Quoted from borna:

Actually this is an EM pinball. Would that makes it even more challenging?

I don't know why it always has to be a mystery as to what the actual game is. Always leaves me in suspense.

#14 2 years ago

What game? What manufacturer?
I can (and so can you) completely gut and empty out a Williams or Bally EM in under 15 minutes, and that includes removing the back bars, flippers mech’s & coin door. Gottlieb’s are a big “PITA”, but it can be done.

#15 2 years ago
Quoted from Xenon75:

no its easy to get the motor board out of an em, also easy to take off the door and associated harness. easy to take out the components from the head and then have two empty wood boxes. Only "tricky" thing is if you want to remove the metal rails for the repaint.

This only applies to Gottlieb EM’s. I can remove the bottom board in a Williams in less than 3 minutes.

#16 2 years ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

I don't know why it always has to be a mystery as to what the actual game is. Always leaves me in suspense.

Sorry for that. The machine is 1975 Bally Wizard.

#17 2 years ago
Quoted from Mikala:

What game? What manufacturer?
I can (and so can you) completely gut and empty out a Williams or Bally EM in under 15 minutes, and that includes removing the back bars, flippers mech’s & coin door. Gottlieb’s are a big “PITA”, but it can be done.

1975 Bally Wizard

#18 2 years ago

This is simple. If you are repainting a cab and you don't empty it out AND take off the rails you're doing it wrong.

#19 2 years ago

I gut all my cabinets. Quicker, and a nicer job, than masking stuff up instead.

#20 2 years ago

Take lots of pictures so you can put it back together more easier

#21 2 years ago

Especially with white cabs, the new spray inside, all around and down below, brightens up everything, makes missing parts easier to find, and makes working inside a lot easier on the eyes.

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