Remote battery holder install

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Remote battery holder install


By jackd104

3 months ago



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    #1 3 months ago

    Got this to install in my Funhouse. http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/RBH073

    The instructions say to “unsolder and remove the old battery” (holder?). However I assumed I could somehow solder the wires to the terminals of the existing battery holder on the board. The thing is, I’m interested in preserving the factory original nature of the board and don’t want to take off the original battery holder. Is there a way I can do this? Anyone have pics of their install to help me? I can fix a lot on my machine but electrical work is my weakness.

    Thx
    Jack

    #2 3 months ago

    You should have tried this one;
    http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/RBM

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    #3 3 months ago

    If anyone has install advice that is actually helpful that would be appreciated.

    Thanks
    Jack

    #4 3 months ago

    Hmmm... install advice that is actually helpful.

    I would suggest enrolling in a 4 year electrical engineering program at an accredited college and then you'll learn the answer to your question, AND you'll get a valuable degree at the same time.

    Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day, teach a man to fish, etc. etc.

    YOU'RE WELCOME

    #5 3 months ago

    Install NVRAM in your TSPP. It is a plug in play, 30 second upgrade. Easy to change as a game ROM. http://www.pinitech.com/products/6264_nvram.php

    For the other games in your collection, if you're not wanting to do the soldering for NVRAM to remove the old RAM and install an IC socket, I could do the 3 for you, or upgrade to Lithium batteries that should not ever leak.

    #6 3 months ago

    https://pinside.com/pinball/market/shops/1016-lermods/00486-pinball-remote-battery-holder

    Refer to this product picture. Since you already have the battery holder you can make it yourself.
    A couple wooden dowels, two screws and solder lugs can make the battery holder you have do what you want it to do if that is the way you decide to go.

    PM me if you need more guidance

    #7 3 months ago

    I don't see the need to keep factory pack on. And honestly soldering wires to those battery holder terminals ends up with poor connection, melted plastics and trouble. So the dowel spacer with screw to act as battery pip is the way to go. I think that was the help first given. So to make your own is fairly easy buy/cut dowel material same size as AA. Two screws and two crimp ring terminals. Done.

    But removal of holder, clean up of area and sticker saying remote holder installed and date of battery install is something I personally would much rather see.

    Keeping it original looking doesn't score any bonus machine value. Not in the least.

    That's like saying look !! All original electrolytes. NOT a good thing at ALL.

    #8 3 months ago

    like pittpin said,

    built your own battery holder, for $2.

    look for 3xaa battery holder https://www.aliexpress.com

    add longer wires and 3 pieces of wood you can get at home depot for less than a $1 and you're done.

    #9 3 months ago

    I think it’s considered not elegant to solder wires directly to the original battery holder, but it’s always worked for me.

    #10 3 months ago

    search youtube

    #11 3 months ago

    As mentioned, desolder the factory battery holder from the PCB, you no longer need it, no value lost removing it. Then solder remote battery wires to "+" and "-" on PCB... Done. In the future, look into Nvram....

    #12 3 months ago

    Bought some 3 cell AA holders.

    I mounted mine in the backbox, lower right so when I swing the light panel out I have easy access. If I am saying anything wrong here, please correct me but my experience is that there is no necessity to remove the existing battery holder. I simply soldered to the upper right (facing the board) for positive and lower far left. Relocating the holder someplace away is imperative and there are a number of solutions. I also found that on one game that I could secure the replacement holder to the inside of the swinging panel depending upon clearance and length of the leads of the holder. But again, the points where you connect makes a difference. But the most important thing is to get those cells away from where they WILL do damage.

    #13 3 months ago
    Quoted from BagAJellyDonuts:

    Bought some 3 cell AA holders.
    I mounted mine in the backbox, lower right so when I swing the light panel out I have easy access. If I am saying anything wrong here, please correct me but my experience is that there is no necessity to remove the existing battery holder. I simply soldered to the upper right (facing the board) for positive and lower far left. Relocating the holder someplace away is imperative and there are a number of solutions. I also found that on one game that I could secure the replacement holder to the inside of the swinging panel depending upon clearance and length of the leads of the holder. But again, the points where you connect makes a difference. But the most important thing is to get those cells away from where they WILL do damage.

    Guys you don’t want to install an external battery pack. We did that years ago and then put batteries in plastic bag. Just install lithium AA batteries. All problems solved. Never leak and no corrosive gases.

    #14 3 months ago
    Quoted from Onwallst:

    Guys I have no idea why you want to install an external battery pack. We did that years ago and then put batteries in plastic bag that was before lithium AA batteries. Just install lithium AA batteries. All problems solved. Never leak and no corrosive gases.

    You sure about this? I mean getting a degree sounds like a better choice.......

    #15 3 months ago

    What I would do is de solder the old battery holder and solder in your new remote one. You can do what others have mentioned as well, just depends on your skill and how comfortable
    You are with soldering, but I’m sure folks have an opinion on this method as well

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    #16 3 months ago
    Quoted from jackd104:

    The thing is, I’m interested in preserving the factory original nature of the board and don’t want to take off the original battery holder.

    Quoted from jackd104:

    If anyone has install advice that is actually helpful that would be appreciated.
    Thanks
    Jack

    Actually that was the most simple and helpful post in the thread. Based on your stated purpose and skill level you bought the wrong part. Throw it into a drawer and buy the other one. Personally I use NVRAM and no longer use batteries at all.

    #17 3 months ago
    Quoted from John_I:

    Actually that was the most simple and helpful post in the thread. Based on your stated purpose and skill level you bought the wrong part. Throw it into a drawer and buy the other one. Personally I use NVRAM and no longer use batteries at all.

    He speaks the truth. Don’t wreck your boards just spend the $5

    #18 3 months ago
    Quoted from Gunnut40:

    You sure about this? I mean getting a degree sounds like a better choice.......

    Exactly.

    All he said is that he wanted "install advice that is actually helpful", with no other criteria.

    Within those broad parameters, my advice is technically the most helpful in the long run.

    The return on investment of my idea blows all the other suggestions right out of the water.

    #19 3 months ago
    Quoted from PittPin:

    https://pinside.com/pinball/market/shops/1016-lermods/00486-pinball-remote-battery-holder
    Refer to this product picture. Since you already have the battery holder you can make it yourself.
    A couple wooden dowels, two screws and solder lugs can make the battery holder you have do what you want it to do if that is the way you decide to go.
    PM me if you need more guidance

    I would use a plastic rod to make it a little less hillbilly.

    #20 3 months ago
    Quoted from irobot:

    I would use a plastic rod to make it a little less hillbilly.

    psst.. (Wood has less potential to melt if something goes wrong)

    #21 3 months ago
    Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

    psst.. (Wood has less potential to melt if something goes wrong)

    Wood ?? Fire ?? Really. It makes no difference

    He will do the smoke detector mod and be fine.

    #23 3 months ago
    Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

    psst.. (Wood has less potential to melt if something goes wrong)

    seriously, what could go wrong that would melt a plastic rod in the battery holder and not completely destroy your whole PCB?

    a melted rod would be the last of your worries after the lightning strike.

    How about this idea:

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4X-Battery-Convertor-Adapter-Size-AAA-R03-to-AA-LR6/32795754994.html

    put the empty battery adapters in the battery holder slots, there's no conductivity without the AAA inside.

    The one battery with the wires, you neatly drill a small hole in the side and solder the wires inside.

    #24 3 months ago
    Quoted from jackd104:

    Got this to install in my Funhouse. http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/RBH073
    The instructions say to “unsolder and remove the old battery” (holder?). However I assumed I could somehow solder the wires to the terminals of the existing battery holder on the board. The thing is, I’m interested in preserving the factory original nature of the board and don’t want to take off the original battery holder. Is there a way I can do this? Anyone have pics of their install to help me? I can fix a lot on my machine but electrical work is my weakness.
    Thx
    Jack

    “unsolder and remove the old battery” (holder?).

    some games came with a rechargable battery soldered to the board

    you would remove it and use the 3 regular batteries to power the game

    except you need a 4 battery holder and solder a diode in the first slot so the game won't try to recharge your regular batteries

    something like that

    #25 3 months ago
    Quoted from Soulrider911:

    What I would do is de solder the old battery holder and solder in your new remote one. You can do what others have mentioned as well, just depends on your skill and how comfortable
    You are with soldering, but I’m sure folks have an opinion on this method as well

    Unfortunately, you are too late. You have alkaline damage at minimum of what is in red. Yellow area is suspect.
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    #26 3 months ago
    Quoted from Onwallst:

    Just install lithium AA batteries. All problems solved. Never leak and no corrosive gases.

    I say, just install NVRAM and never have to worry about throwing another single battery in the trash. Go green as they say.
    DE/Sega/Stern Whitestar boards already have the old RAM in a socket and anyone can change it who has changed a game ROM. True plug and play on those boards, 30 seconds and done.

    For NVRAM on System 11 and WPC, I can install remove the old RAM and solder in an IC socket and install the NVRAM in 20 minutes. I'm willing to do this for anyone wanting my help.

    #27 3 months ago
    Quoted from jackd104:

    Got this to install in my Funhouse. http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/RBH073
    The instructions say to “unsolder and remove the old battery” (holder?). However I assumed I could somehow solder the wires to the terminals of the existing battery holder on the board. The thing is, I’m interested in preserving the factory original nature of the board and don’t want to take off the original battery holder. Is there a way I can do this? Anyone have pics of their install to help me? I can fix a lot on my machine but electrical work is my weakness.
    Thx
    Jack

    I love factory original in lots of things. But ain't nobody going to care that you took the original battery pack off in order to have a more reliable machine. In fact, any future buyer will love you for doing this.

    1 week later
    #28 3 months ago

    Good eye pinballmaniac40 but I was not talking about the damage to that board at all, as this thread has nothing to do with that. So, though I thank you for your keen eye, that does not help this guy. FYI look now my friend...

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    #29 3 months ago
    Quoted from Soulrider911:

    Good eye pinballmaniac40 but I was not talking about the damage to that board at all, as this thread has nothing to do with that. So, though I thank you for your keen eye, that does not help this guy. FYI look now my friend...

    Yes, it is a good thread for it. Brings to the attention of what many people do not know what they are looking for when someone says to look for battery corrosion, much less the need to continuously change alkaline batteries or suffer their ill affects. It also shows the alternatives to batteries.

    That is a very nicely done repair, Sir. Well done! +1 for NVRAM that never forgets.

    #30 3 months ago
    Quoted from PinballManiac40:

    Yes, it is a good thread for it. Brings to the attention of what many people do not know what they are looking for when someone says to look for battery corrosion, much less the need to continuously change alkaline batteries or suffer their ill affects. It also shows the alternatives to batteries.
    That is a very nicely done repair, Sir. Well done! +1 for NVRAM that never forgets.

    Point well taken. And I can’t take credit for the alkaline neutralization that’s all Chris Hibler he is the man when it comes to this. Cheers!

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