(Topic ID: 216251)

Fixing/Reinforcing Stern Cabinets with better Leg Plates - Step By Step


By vireland

1 year ago



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    #201 6 months ago
    Quoted from ZfromEarth:

    My T3 machine back legs screws isn't tight. Two screw is moving in the hole. If I replace the leg bracket this will be good?
    Thanks[quoted image]

    Sounds like it's stripped, so make sure you get the correct plate (check the online pdf of the manual) and TWO NEW BOLTS. Don't try using your stripped bolts in the new plate or you'll strip that out, too.

    #202 6 months ago

    OK Thank You guys. I have original manual and a check the part number before I order.

    #203 6 months ago

    Im not very good at woodworking. But with a Pinsider help I removed front legs. Ratchet strap and the tite bond glue. Got it pretty snug. Ordering the brackets now

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    #204 6 months ago
    Quoted from billsfanmd:

    Im not very good at woodworking. But with a Pinsider help I removed front legs. Ratchet strap and the tite bond glue. Got it pretty snug. Ordering the brackets now[quoted image]

    Did the new update do that. That was one heck of an update Ghostbusters got.

    #205 6 months ago
    Quoted from Spiderpin:

    Did the new update do that. That was one heck of an update Ghostbusters got.

    Funny. Nope. This cab has been split for a year or so. Just hit motivated to fix it.

    1 month later
    #206 5 months ago

    Thanks for the tips

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    #207 4 months ago

    I just stumbled onto this thread and had a quick question. Is everyone pre-drilling the holes for the new screws? the 3/4" length takes me a little nervous also, but they seem to be just right. Thanks.

    #208 4 months ago
    Quoted from WhiskeyTango:

    I just stumbled onto this thread and had a quick question. Is everyone pre-drilling the holes for the new screws? the 3/4" length takes me a little nervous also, but they seem to be just right. Thanks.

    I do not predrill. The newer Stern cabinets have such crappy wood density the screw needs all the bite it can get. And if you're using the actual wood screws in the OP they're perfect.

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    #209 3 months ago

    I just adding a pair of the larger leg plates to my IRMD Pro and what I noticed (quite disturbingly so) is that the front/coin door panel is made from 3/4" (9/16) plywood and the sides are made from something closer to 5/8" (7/16) plywood - appears to have two less plys
    sheesh, what cheap bastards
    anyway, be careful when using the 3/4" screws - the side panel screws will need a washer or use 5/8" screws for them
    and yes this is very soft plywood
    good thread

    #210 3 months ago
    Quoted from creepykenny:

    I just adding a pair of the larger leg plates to my IRMD Pro and what I noticed (quite disturbingly so) is that the front/coin door panel is made from 3/4" (9/16) plywood and the sides are made from something closer to 5/8" (7/16) plywood - appears to have two less plys
    sheesh, what cheap bastards
    anyway, be careful when using the 3/4" screws - the side panel screws will need a washer or use 5/8" screws for them
    and yes this is very soft plywood
    good thread

    Yeah, that's why I have the bit about checking the length of the screw against the thickness of the wood before you start. Never can tell how much thinner or crappier the Stern cabinet wood will get in the pursuit of a few more cents per unit in profits.

    #211 3 months ago

    Forgot I had already done this on my
    BM66LE, can you buy the top corner brackets that are coming out on some new Sterns or not?

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    #212 3 months ago
    Quoted from J85M:

    Forgot I had already done this on my
    BM66LE, can you buy the top corner brackets that are coming out on some new Sterns or not?[quoted image][quoted image]

    If you've done the large B/W leg plates, you don't need the corner ones at the top of the cabinet edge, IMO. That's just a stopgap because Stern was using half-size reinforced leg plates for a while.

    #213 3 months ago

    Slightly off topic but will these work perfectly fine with SAM games? Not quite sure why they are Spike/Spike2 specific other than the fact they have the rubber stoppers on them, they don’t appear to actually be any different to the brackets we used to get before Stern went to those pegs!

    https://www.pinballlife.com/stern-pinball-support-slide-bracket-kit-for-spike-spike-2-machines.html

    #214 3 months ago
    Quoted from J85M:

    Slightly off topic but will these work perfectly fine with SAM games? Not quite sure why they are Spike/Spike2 specific other than the fact they have the rubber stoppers on them, they don’t appear to actually be any different to the brackets we used to get before Stern went to those pegs!
    https://www.pinballlife.com/stern-pinball-support-slide-bracket-kit-for-spike-spike-2-machines.html

    "SAM system machines use a different slide bracket kit; Pinball Life #535-6862-05_set, Stern #535-6862-05"

    https://www.pinballlife.com/stern-playfield-support-slide-bracket-kit-for-sam-machines.html

    #215 3 months ago
    Quoted from vireland:

    "SAM system machines use a different slide bracket kit; Pinball Life #535-6862-05_set, Stern #535-6862-05"
    https://www.pinballlife.com/stern-playfield-support-slide-bracket-kit-for-sam-machines.html

    Vire could those spike ones be used on a SAM game? They appear to be the same size and length just the Spike ones have those rubber feet/bumpers on the bottom of them.

    #216 3 months ago
    Quoted from J85M:

    Vire could those spike ones be used on a SAM game? They appear to be the same size and length just the Spike ones have those rubber feet/bumpers on the bottom of them.

    Unfortunately I don't know what other differences there might be. I'd email Terry at pinball life since he has both on hand and can compare head to head and offer his opinion.

    #217 3 months ago
    Quoted from vireland:

    Unfortunately I don't know what other differences there might be. I'd email Terry at pinball life since he has both on hand and can compare head to head and offer his opinion.

    I had an extra set meant for an iron man and compared them to my Aerosmith. The main difference is the screw holes. My Aerosmith has two dimples side by side and the SAM screws go from front to back.

    #218 3 months ago
    Quoted from WhiskeyTango:

    I had an extra set meant for an iron man and compared them to my Aerosmith. The main difference is the screw holes. My Aerosmith has two dimples side by side and the SAM screws go from front to back.

    Can you post a picture of each screw hole area? Then I can key post it so people can find it if they're curious.

    So, it sounds like it will work if you don't mind drilling 8 new holes since the orientation of the holes is different.

    #219 3 months ago
    Quoted from vireland:

    Can you post a picture of each screw hole area? Then I can key post it so people can find it if they're curious.
    So, it sounds like it will work if you don't mind drilling 8 new holes since the orientation of the holes is different.

    My ST Premium already has the rails, but I can post it along with my Aerosmith Pro.

    #220 3 months ago
    Quoted from WhiskeyTango:

    My ST Premium already has the rails, but I can post it along with my Aerosmith Pro.

    Yeah, basically just to show that the spike ones are not exactly the same and you'll have to drill different holes if you want to use them in a SAM game.

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    #221 71 days ago
    Quoted from vireland:

    Yeah, basically just to show that the spike ones are not exactly the same and you'll have to drill different holes if you want to use them in a SAM game.

    Overall size and screw hole comparison. That smaller set with side-by-side holes is for Spike.

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    #222 71 days ago
    Quoted from WhiskeyTango:

    Overall size and screw hole comparison. That smaller set with side-by-side holes is for Spike.[quoted image][quoted image]

    This is great. Thanks for posting! I key posted it!

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