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Rebuilding sound for DataEast & WPC using a pi

By steve45

7 years ago


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#1775 2 years ago
Quoted from BrewNinja:

3.7 is one I created. It added an additional WPC95 port (so you dont have to use the cable adapter) and OLED rotation for DE games. I also added some markings on the silk screen layer so its easier to know what to solder/orient to. I sent the changes back up to Steve, so they will be available in a future release.
https://slapsavecreations.com/tiltaudio/lib/exe/fetch.php?media=tiltaudio:v3.5_3.7:tilt_audio_3.7.jpg

Do you plan to share your v3.7 which is perfect for WPC ? Or do we have to re-create our own from v3.6 ?

Thanks for your wiki BTW !

#1787 2 years ago

Did anyone actually tried a TiltAudio on a WPC95 ?

I didn't find any report on the web, I only found a "duplicator" cable on the official shop of TiltAudio.

steve45 gave me answer on the chat (thanks for that !), but I'd rather ask my questions here if anyone else is interested.

Latest board version v3.7 (available on oshwlab under the name of "tiltaudio-3.6") as two WPC connectors which is convenient because Audio and Video are on the same board and we can't simply replace the audio board as for WPC.
We can now use a standard cable instead of the "duplicator" cable, less convenient, needed by the previous version of the board.

I'm wondering about power supply as J501 doesn't exist on my WPC95.

We need an alternative current (at least 10VAC) to get our 12VDC/5VDC via the Diode Bridge and the DC-DC step down converters.
On my WPC95 we have two connectors J130/J131 which, according to schematics, are not used but connected to J128 and its 16VAC.
But those two are used for flasher and solenoids, and I don't know if it's a good idea for powering audio.
And I'm wondering what will happen when we open the coin door ... I'am not sure power will still be available...

We can also make a derivation of J129 and its 13VAC or use directly the 18VDC of TIP102 on DC-DC converter.

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Let me know if you have a better idea ...

Next question is about the location of the board : where do you put it ? Because it seems pretty big (form factor of the WPC board) and i don't see any obvious place for it !

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Last question (for today) is about the Pin2DMD connector. I've a Nucleo V4 shied that is powered with 5VDC and I'm wondering why the 4 PINs Pin2DMD connector doesn't get it and why only one pin is used (for 12VDC) and the others grounded. Is it reserved for future developement (PPUC?) or can we get a 5VDC pin on it ?

#1790 2 years ago
Quoted from Robotworkshop:

Supposedly if the AV board is dead you can use a WPC DMD driver board and then a separate sound card like the Pinsound or Tilt Audio.

A/V board is fine, i’d like to have real stereo and bluetooth on my pinball !
(And get rid of my Pin2DMD external power supply)

#1791 2 years ago
Quoted from Sebinouse:

Did anyone actually try a TiltAudio on a WPC95 ?
I didn't find any report on the web, I only found a "duplicator" cable on the official shop of TiltAudio.
steve45 gave me answer on the chat (thanks for that !), but I'd rather ask my questions here if anyone else is interested.
Latest board version v3.7 (available on oshwlab under the name of "tiltaudio-3.6") as two WPC connectors which is convenient because Audio and Video are on the same board and we can't simply replace the audio board as for WPC.
We can now use a standard cable instead of the "duplicator" cable, less convenient, needed by the previous version of the board.
I'm wondering about power supply as J501 doesn't exist on my WPC95.
We need an alternative current (at least 10VAC) to get our 12VDC/5VDC via the Diode Bridge and the DC-DC step down converters.
On my WPC95 we have two connectors J130/J131 which, according to schematics, are not used but connected to J128 and its 16VAC.
But those two are used for flasher and solenoids, and I don't know if it's a good idea for powering audio.
And I'm wondering what will happen when we open the coin door ... I'am not sure power will still be available...
We can also make a derivation of J129 and its 13VAC or use directly the 18VDC of TIP102 on DC-DC converter.
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Let me know if you have a better idea ...
Next question is about the location of the board : where do you put it ? Because it seems pretty big (form factor of the WPC board) and i don't see any obvious place for it !
[quoted image]
Last question (for today) is about the Pin2DMD connector. I've a Nucleo V4 shied that is powered with 5VDC and I'm wondering why the 4 PINs Pin2DMD connector doesn't get it and why only one pin is used (for 12VDC) and the others grounded. Is it reserved for future developement (PPUC?) or can we get a 5VDC pin on it ?

#1794 2 years ago
Quoted from steve45:

People normally put it to the right of the av board.

OK, I'll give a closer look to it.

Quoted from steve45:

This connector is meat for reusing an external 12V power supply. So if you have an external power already for a pin2dmd with 12V you could drive the TILT!Audio board (or vice versa). TILT!Audio board in general only uses 12V for amps and creates the 5V on board.

Can we use another pin of the connector to get 5VDC output then ? Like you did for 12VDC.

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