1) Interested in buying the Tilt board for STTNG since I read about raspy sound few years ago. , is it just the WPC kit then? 3.0 now right.

2) nervous at soldering the smd chips, is there any way to buy a preassembled board kit ( minus raspberry pi) , Or anyone willing to sell me an assembled one on here?

Also planning on buying a pin2dmd excited how that product has grown also.

Can you give a link to where these live? I spent some time on the website and couldn't find them.

EDIT: Found it here; https://easyeda.com/steve45/tiltaudio

Does the image for the device work on raspberry pi 4 or just 3? Thanks!

Cool I would guess a pi4 is overkill for this so I’ll just order a pi3 for it. I know it’s unrelated but is Germangamingsupplies still best place to buy a full Pin2dmd EVO setup?

We don´t give any recommendations about suppliers, because we don´t have personal experience with any of them. From our side the pin2dmd project is strictly DIY. There should be a pretty good chance that you get one from within the united states, if you ask around in one of the active pin2dmd threads or on vpuniverse.com

Now back to the topic

Thanks I’ll check there!

There is quite some threads around in the German forum about people complaining about that supplier.
Seems they hardly get their paid orders delivered.....

There is a user selling 3 of them in the UK forums £165.00 each.

https://www.pinballinfo.com/community/classifieds/pin2dmd.73/

I was wondering if anyone had images of a TiltAudio board in a DataEast machine? I'm curious how people have run their speakers and how people are running their power. I'm still getting mine setup and would love to see what others have done.

I've just installed my tilt!audio board in my DE Batman. Unfortunately I only get sound on boot up or if I play a sound from the webUI. Has anyone run into this in the past?

Here is what I've configured after prepping the board.

1. I imaged a class 10 32gb microSD card with latest firmware using Win32 Image Writer.

2. I placed my license key in the data folder.

3. I placed 2 different sound sets in the sound folder. One is the original and the other is a custom mix.

4. I set vendor=0 in the configuration file in the sound folder.

5. After installing the tilt!audio board in my machine i made sure all of the cables were reconnected. The ribbon cable has the red stripe to pin 1.

6. On starting my machine I get the start chime and boot notifications from the pi. After that the only way I can get any sound is to use the webUI. I have my audio device set to equal-dac.

I should note the original sound board is working perfectly.

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Edit: problem has been solved. The jumper pins weren't installed on the board. Big miss on my part. Seems to be working great! Just need to mess with some of the sounds a bit.

Here is a video of Tilt!Audio in action on my DE Batman. There are some adjustments needed. At times I can hear older sounds playing and the difference in volume levels at times is a bit too much. The logs say I'm missing some sounds. I'll have to do some investigating there. But it's working!!!

I was wondering if anyone has made their own custom sound set for a Tilt!Audio board? If so, how did you go about it? Did you just use the webUI or some other way?

Is it normal for the running program on the Pi to restart/crash when changing sound cards and/or trying to play a test sound ?
Board v 3.0, software 1.32, just assembled.
Display works, ssh works, web interface works, no error messages - but also no sound.
WPC, Pi3 b+ new out of the box.

Well ... got sound running, it was the sound card itself probably.

Testing on Getaway and Addams.
Same card (different Pis) triggers extra sound #186 where it shouldn't.
Same ID for both games.

Altsound sample set for both games.

This time, I have had the three 74LVC* SMD chips presoldered from JLPCB.
Card is version 3.0, software 1.32 (full install, stock, just downloaded and put on SD card).

What can be the problem here ?

Here's an extract from the log (sfx 'space_17', id 186 should not be playing here) :

2021-01-23 17:32:33.006 DEBUG SndServi [doCheckDucking] [sdl_sound.c:531] channel 0 has finished
2021-01-23 17:32:33.006 DEBUG SndServi [getVolumeForSample] [sdl_sound.c:1035] getVolumeForSample: sample->gain: 50, gainByType: 50, res: 32
2021-01-23 17:32:33.006 DEBUG SndServi [setMusicVolume] [sdl_sound.c:517] setMusicVolume to 32 (musicVol=32, ducking=100)
2021-01-23 17:32:35.442 DEBUG isr wpc [wdenInterrupt] [pincom.c:346] wpc cmd 00000 186 0xba 10111010 len: 1
2021-01-23 17:32:35.442 DEBUG isr wpc [soundWpcHandler] [sdl_sound.c:1900] wpcSoundHandler cmd: 0xba 0x00 0x00 0x00, id: 186
2021-01-23 17:32:35.442 DEBUG SndServi [getVolumeForSample] [sdl_sound.c:1035] getVolumeForSample: sample->gain: 50, gainByType: 50, res: 32
2021-01-23 17:32:35.442 DEBUG SndServi [playSample] [sdl_sound.c:1585] playing sample 186:0 vol: 50->32 'sfx' 'space_17' on channel 0
2021-01-23 17:32:35.442 DEBUG SndServi [doCheckDucking] [sdl_sound.c:529] sample starts playing on channel -1
2021-01-23 17:32:35.442 DEBUG SndServi [getVolumeForSample] [sdl_sound.c:1035] getVolumeForSample: sample->gain: 50, gainByType: 50, res: 32
2021-01-23 17:32:35.442 DEBUG SndServi [setMusicVolume] [sdl_sound.c:517] setMusicVolume to 25 (musicVol=32, ducking=80)
2021-01-23 17:32:36.815 DEBUG SndServi [doCheckDucking] [sdl_sound.c:531] channel 0 has finished
2021-01-23 17:32:36.815 DEBUG SndServi [getVolumeForSample] [sdl_sound.c:1035] getVolumeForSample: sample->gain: 50, gainByType: 50, res: 32
2021-01-23 17:32:36.815 DEBUG SndServi [setMusicVolume] [sdl_sound.c:517] setMusicVolume to 32 (musicVol=32, ducking=100)
2021-01-23 17:32:36.952 DEBUG isr wpc [wdenInterrupt] [pincom.c:346] wpc cmd 00000 177 0xb1 10110001 len: 1
2021-01-23 17:32:36.952 DEBUG isr wpc [soundWpcHandler] [sdl_sound.c:1900] wpcSoundHandler cmd: 0xb1 0x00 0x00 0x00, id: 177
2021-01-23 17:32:36.952 DEBUG SndServi [loadSample] [sdl_sound.c:1519] sample not in RAM, loading 1 samples
2021-01-23 17:32:36.952 DEBUG SndServi [loadSample] [sdl_sound.c:1521] sample not in RAM, loading from /boot/data/sound/taf_l7/0x00b1-paf_1.ogg
2021-01-23 17:32:36.968 DEBUG SndServi [loadSample] [sdl_sound.c:1528] Loaded sample 177:0: len: 70 kB, used: 02 MB
2021-01-23 17:32:36.969 DEBUG SndServi [getVolumeForSample] [sdl_sound.c:1035] getVolumeForSample: sample->gain: 50, gainByType: 50, res: 32
2021-01-23 17:32:36.969 DEBUG SndServi [playSample] [sdl_sound.c:1585] playing sample 177:0 vol: 50->32 'sfx' 'paf_1' on channel 0
2021-01-23 17:32:36.969 DEBUG SndServi [doCheckDucking] [sdl_sound.c:529] sample starts playing on channel -1
2021-01-23 17:32:36.969 DEBUG SndServi [getVolumeForSample] [sdl_sound.c:1035] getVolumeForSample: sample->gain: 50, gainByType: 50, res: 32
2021-01-23 17:32:36.969 DEBUG SndServi [setMusicVolume] [sdl_sound.c:517] setMusicVolume to 25 (musicVol=32, ducking=80)
2021-01-23 17:32:37.371 DEBUG SndServi [doCheckDucking] [sdl_sound.c:531] channel 0 has finished
2021-01-23 17:32:37.372 DEBUG SndServi [getVolumeForSample] [sdl_sound.c:1035] getVolumeForSample: sample->gain: 50, gainByType: 50, res: 32
2021-01-23 17:32:37.372 DEBUG SndServi [setMusicVolume] [sdl_sound.c:517] setMusicVolume to 32 (musicVol=32, ducking=100)
2021-01-23 17:32:40.552 DEBUG MHD-sing [requestHandler] [httpservice.c:1774] url: /log, method: GET, version: HTTP/1.1, connCtx: 0x0000
2021-01-23 17:32:40.552 INFO MHD-sing [handleLogFileRequest] [httpservice.c:1574] request for logfile

So just to be clear, you get sound and music and call outs, but there is a specific sound which is played at some point where it should not?

Exactly. Sound #186 is triggered at random, frequent points when other sounds are playing.

steve45 So I built card #2 out of 5 and got the same result.

Yes, sample #186 is wrong/unexpected.
The same sample plays in both games.

Sample #186 plays repeatedly on top of other sounds.
Other sounds seem correct, but #186 is so loud and comes so often the cards are unusable.

Card #1 is the same, I tried changing Pis and got the exact same result.

So I have now tried :

Card #1 game #1 Pi #1 : sample 186 pops up
Card #1 game #1 Pi #2 : sample 186 pops up
Card #1 game #2 Pi #1 : sample 186 pops up
Card #2 game #1 Pi #2 : sample 186 pops up

I can of course try more combinations, but this seems consistent across games, Pis and cards.

Any tips ?

steve45 Tried changing soundsets from altsound to another on Getaway, same result.

So here's a trace from Getaway with altsound during attract mode using trace level.
There should be no sound AFAIK, but sample #186 is played occasionally and the log tells about other missing samples.

Is this something with the SMD chips again ?
I see the old 2.6a board used LCX chips while the BOM for 3.0 calls for LVC chips.

2021-02-06 14:26:34.145 INFO RasPiSnd [updateSound] [sdl_sound.c:1855] 201828 - 141827 > 60000 -> fading background music id=0
2021-02-06 14:26:35.115 DEBUG isr wpc [wdenInterrupt] [pincom.c:346] wpc cmd 00000 186 0xba 10111010 len: 1
2021-02-06 14:26:35.115 DEBUG isr wpc [soundWpcHandler] [sdl_sound.c:1900] wpcSoundHandler cmd: 0xba 0x00 0x00 0x00, id: 186
2021-02-06 14:26:35.116 DEBUG SndServi [loadSample] [sdl_sound.c:1519] sample not in RAM, loading 1 samples
2021-02-06 14:26:35.116 DEBUG SndServi [loadSample] [sdl_sound.c:1521] sample not in RAM, loading from /boot/data/sound/altsound_gw_l5/0x00ba-electric_touch_5.ogg
2021-02-06 14:26:35.116 DEBUG isr wpc [wdenInterrupt] [pincom.c:346] wpc cmd 00000 032 0x20 00100000 len: 1
2021-02-06 14:26:35.116 DEBUG isr wpc [soundWpcHandler] [sdl_sound.c:1900] wpcSoundHandler cmd: 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00, id: 32
2021-02-06 14:26:35.143 DEBUG SndServi [loadSample] [sdl_sound.c:1528] Loaded sample 186:0: len: 208 kB, used: 472 kB
2021-02-06 14:26:35.143 DEBUG SndServi [getVolumeForSample] [sdl_sound.c:1035] getVolumeForSample: sample->gain: 50, gainByType: 50, res: 52
2021-02-06 14:26:35.143 DEBUG SndServi [playSample] [sdl_sound.c:1585] playing sample 186:0 vol: 50->52 'sfx' 'electric_touch_5' on channel 0
2021-02-06 14:26:35.143 DEBUG SndServi [doCheckDucking] [sdl_sound.c:529] sample starts playing on channel -1
2021-02-06 14:26:35.143 WARN SndServi [handleSoundByTypeWithIdx] [sdl_sound.c:1682] sample for id '32' not found
2021-02-06 14:26:36.160 DEBUG isr wpc [wdenInterrupt] [pincom.c:346] wpc cmd 00000 097 0x61 01100001 len: 2
2021-02-06 14:26:36.161 DEBUG isr wpc [wdenInterrupt] [pincom.c:346] wpc cmd 00001 033 0x21 00100001 len: 2
2021-02-06 14:26:36.161 DEBUG isr wpc [soundWpcHandler] [sdl_sound.c:1900] wpcSoundHandler cmd: 0x61 0x21 0x00 0x00, id: 24865
2021-02-06 14:26:36.161 DEBUG SndServi [idsToIgnoreForWpc] [sdl_sound.c:1640] ignore wpc / dcs command 0x6121
2021-02-06 14:26:36.368 DEBUG SndServi [doCheckDucking] [sdl_sound.c:531] channel 0 has finished
2021-02-06 14:26:37.208 DEBUG isr wpc [wdenInterrupt] [pincom.c:346] wpc cmd 00000 098 0x62 01100010 len: 2
2021-02-06 14:26:37.209 DEBUG isr wpc [wdenInterrupt] [pincom.c:346] wpc cmd 00001 034 0x22 00100010 len: 2
2021-02-06 14:26:37.209 DEBUG isr wpc [soundWpcHandler] [sdl_sound.c:1900] wpcSoundHandler cmd: 0x62 0x22 0x00 0x00, id: 25122
2021-02-06 14:26:37.210 DEBUG SndServi [idsToIgnoreForWpc] [sdl_sound.c:1640] ignore wpc / dcs command 0x6222
2021-02-06 14:26:38.256 DEBUG isr wpc [wdenInterrupt] [pincom.c:346] wpc cmd 00000 099 0x63 01100011 len: 2
2021-02-06 14:26:38.258 DEBUG isr wpc [wdenInterrupt] [pincom.c:346] wpc cmd 00001 035 0x23 00100011 len: 2
2021-02-06 14:26:38.258 DEBUG isr wpc [soundWpcHandler] [sdl_sound.c:1900] wpcSoundHandler cmd: 0x63 0x23 0x00 0x00, id: 25379
2021-02-06 14:26:38.258 DEBUG SndServi [idsToIgnoreForWpc] [sdl_sound.c:1640] ignore wpc / dcs command 0x6323
2021-02-06 14:26:39.305 DEBUG isr wpc [wdenInterrupt] [pincom.c:346] wpc cmd 00000 100 0x64 01100100 len: 2
2021-02-06 14:26:39.306 DEBUG isr wpc [wdenInterrupt] [pincom.c:346] wpc cmd 00001 036 0x24 00100100 len: 2
2021-02-06 14:26:39.306 DEBUG isr wpc [soundWpcHandler] [sdl_sound.c:1900] wpcSoundHandler cmd: 0x64 0x24 0x00 0x00, id: 25636
2021-02-06 14:26:39.306 DEBUG SndServi [idsToIgnoreForWpc] [sdl_sound.c:1640] ignore wpc / dcs command 0x6424
2021-02-06 14:26:40.387 DEBUG isr wpc [wdenInterrupt] [pincom.c:346] wpc cmd 00000 186 0xba 10111010 len: 1
2021-02-06 14:26:40.387 DEBUG isr wpc [soundWpcHandler] [sdl_sound.c:1900] wpcSoundHandler cmd: 0xba 0x00 0x00 0x00, id: 186
2021-02-06 14:26:40.387 DEBUG SndServi [getVolumeForSample] [sdl_sound.c:1035] getVolumeForSample: sample->gain: 50, gainByType: 50, res: 52
2021-02-06 14:26:40.387 DEBUG SndServi [playSample] [sdl_sound.c:1585] playing sample 186:0 vol: 50->52 'sfx' 'electric_touch_5' on channel 0
2021-02-06 14:26:40.387 DEBUG SndServi [doCheckDucking] [sdl_sound.c:529] sample starts playing on channel -1
2021-02-06 14:26:40.387 DEBUG isr wpc [wdenInterrupt] [pincom.c:346] wpc cmd 00000 037 0x25 00100101 len: 1
2021-02-06 14:26:40.388 DEBUG isr wpc [soundWpcHandler] [sdl_sound.c:1900] wpcSoundHandler cmd: 0x25 0x00 0x00 0x00, id: 37
2021-02-06 14:26:40.388 WARN SndServi [handleSoundByTypeWithIdx] [sdl_sound.c:1682] sample for id '37' not found
2021-02-06 14:26:41.441 DEBUG isr wpc [wdenInterrupt] [pincom.c:346] wpc cmd 00000 186 0xba 10111010 len: 1
2021-02-06 14:26:41.441 DEBUG isr wpc [soundWpcHandler] [sdl_sound.c:1900] wpcSoundHandler cmd: 0xba 0x00 0x00 0x00, id: 186
2021-02-06 14:26:41.441 DEBUG SndServi [getVolumeForSample] [sdl_sound.c:1035] getVolumeForSample: sample->gain: 50, gainByType: 50, res: 52
2021-02-06 14:26:41.441 DEBUG SndServi [playSample] [sdl_sound.c:1585] playing sample 186:0 vol: 50->52 'sfx' 'electric_touch_5' on channel 0
2021-02-06 14:26:41.441 DEBUG SndServi [doCheckDucking] [sdl_sound.c:529] sample starts playing on channel -1
2021-02-06 14:26:41.441 DEBUG SndServi [doCheckDucking] [sdl_sound.c:531] channel 0 has finished
2021-02-06 14:26:41.442 DEBUG isr wpc [wdenInterrupt] [pincom.c:346] wpc cmd 00000 038 0x26 00100110 len: 1
2021-02-06 14:26:41.442 DEBUG isr wpc [soundWpcHandler] [sdl_sound.c:1900] wpcSoundHandler cmd: 0x26 0x00 0x00 0x00, id: 38
2021-02-06 14:26:41.442 WARN SndServi [handleSoundByTypeWithIdx] [sdl_sound.c:1682] sample for id '38' not found
2021-02-06 14:26:42.482 DEBUG isr wpc [wdenInterrupt] [pincom.c:346] wpc cmd 00000 103 0x67 01100111 len: 2
2021-02-06 14:26:42.483 DEBUG isr wpc [wdenInterrupt] [pincom.c:346] wpc cmd 00001 167 0xa7 10100111 len: 2
2021-02-06 14:26:42.483 DEBUG isr wpc [soundWpcHandler] [sdl_sound.c:1900] wpcSoundHandler cmd: 0x67 0xa7 0x00 0x00, id: 26535
2021-02-06 14:26:42.483 DEBUG SndServi [idsToIgnoreForWpc] [sdl_sound.c:1640] ignore wpc / dcs command 0x67a7
2021-02-06 14:26:42.660 DEBUG SndServi [doCheckDucking] [sdl_sound.c:531] channel 0 has finished
2021-02-06 14:26:43.530 DEBUG isr wpc [wdenInterrupt] [pincom.c:346] wpc cmd 00000 104 0x68 01101000 len: 2
2021-02-06 14:26:43.531 DEBUG isr wpc [wdenInterrupt] [pincom.c:346] wpc cmd 00001 040 0x28 00101000 len: 2
2021-02-06 14:26:43.531 DEBUG isr wpc [soundWpcHandler] [sdl_sound.c:1900] wpcSoundHandler cmd: 0x68 0x28 0x00 0x00, id: 26664
2021-02-06 14:26:43.531 DEBUG SndServi [idsToIgnoreForWpc] [sdl_sound.c:1640] ignore wpc / dcs command 0x6828
2021-02-06 14:26:44.578 DEBUG isr wpc [wdenInterrupt] [pincom.c:346] wpc cmd 00000 105 0x69 01101001 len: 2
2021-02-06 14:26:44.579 DEBUG isr wpc [wdenInterrupt] [pincom.c:346] wpc cmd 00001 041 0x29 00101001 len: 2
2021-02-06 14:26:44.579 DEBUG isr wpc [soundWpcHandler] [sdl_sound.c:1900] wpcSoundHandler cmd: 0x69 0x29 0x00 0x00, id: 26921
2021-02-06 14:26:44.579 DEBUG SndServi [idsToIgnoreForWpc] [sdl_sound.c:1640] ignore wpc / dcs command 0x6929
2021-02-06 14:26:45.626 DEBUG isr wpc [wdenInterrupt] [pincom.c:346] wpc cmd 00000 106 0x6a 01101010 len: 2
2021-02-06 14:26:45.627 DEBUG isr wpc [wdenInterrupt] [pincom.c:346] wpc cmd 00001 042 0x2a 00101010 len: 2
2021-02-06 14:26:45.627 DEBUG isr wpc [soundWpcHandler] [sdl_sound.c:1900] wpcSoundHandler cmd: 0x6a 0x2a 0x00 0x00, id: 27178
2021-02-06 14:26:45.628 DEBUG SndServi [idsToIgnoreForWpc] [sdl_sound.c:1640] ignore wpc / dcs command 0x6a2a
2021-02-06 14:26:46.674 DEBUG isr wpc [wdenInterrupt] [pincom.c:346] wpc cmd 00000 107 0x6b 01101011 len: 2
2021-02-06 14:26:46.676 DEBUG isr wpc [wdenInterrupt] [pincom.c:346] wpc cmd 00001 043 0x2b 00101011 len: 2
2021-02-06 14:26:46.676 DEBUG isr wpc [soundWpcHandler] [sdl_sound.c:1900] wpcSoundHandler cmd: 0x6b 0x2b 0x00 0x00, id: 27435
2021-02-06 14:26:46.676 DEBUG SndServi [idsToIgnoreForWpc] [sdl_sound.c:1640] ignore wpc / dcs command 0x6b2b
2021-02-06 14:26:47.723 DEBUG isr wpc [wdenInterrupt] [pincom.c:346] wpc cmd 00000 108 0x6c 01101100 len: 2
2021-02-06 14:26:47.724 DEBUG isr wpc [wdenInterrupt] [pincom.c:346] wpc cmd 00001 044 0x2c 00101100 len: 2
2021-02-06 14:26:47.724 DEBUG isr wpc [soundWpcHandler] [sdl_sound.c:1900] wpcSoundHandler cmd: 0x6c 0x2c 0x00 0x00, id: 27692
2021-02-06 14:26:47.724 DEBUG SndServi [idsToIgnoreForWpc] [sdl_sound.c:1640] ignore wpc / dcs command 0x6c2c
2021-02-06 14:26:48.771 DEBUG isr wpc [wdenInterrupt] [pincom.c:346] wpc cmd 00000 109 0x6d 01101101 len: 2
2021-02-06 14:26:48.772 DEBUG isr wpc [wdenInterrupt] [pincom.c:346] wpc cmd 00001 045 0x2d 00101101 len: 2
2021-02-06 14:26:48.772 DEBUG isr wpc [soundWpcHandler] [sdl_sound.c:1900] wpcSoundHandler cmd: 0x6d 0x2d 0x00 0x00, id: 27949
2021-02-06 14:26:48.772 DEBUG SndServi [idsToIgnoreForWpc] [sdl_sound.c:1640] ignore wpc / dcs command 0x6d2d
2021-02-06 14:26:49.819 DEBUG isr wpc [wdenInterrupt] [pincom.c:346] wpc cmd 00000 110 0x6e 01101110 len: 2
2021-02-06 14:26:49.820 DEBUG isr wpc [wdenInterrupt] [pincom.c:346] wpc cmd 00001 046 0x2e 00101110 len: 2
2021-02-06 14:26:49.820 DEBUG isr wpc [soundWpcHandler] [sdl_sound.c:1900] wpcSoundHandler cmd: 0x6e 0x2e 0x00 0x00, id: 28206
2021-02-06 14:26:49.820 DEBUG SndServi [idsToIgnoreForWpc] [sdl_sound.c:1640] ignore wpc / dcs command 0x6e2e
2021-02-06 14:26:50.867 DEBUG isr wpc [wdenInterrupt] [pincom.c:346] wpc cmd 00000 111 0x6f 01101111 len: 2
2021-02-06 14:26:50.868 DEBUG isr wpc [wdenInterrupt] [pincom.c:346] wpc cmd 00001 047 0x2f 00101111 len: 2
2021-02-06 14:26:50.868 DEBUG isr wpc [soundWpcHandler] [sdl_sound.c:1900] wpcSoundHandler cmd: 0x6f 0x2f 0x00 0x00, id: 28463
2021-02-06 14:26:50.868 DEBUG SndServi [idsToIgnoreForWpc] [sdl_sound.c:1640] ignore wpc / dcs command 0x6f2f
2021-02-06 14:26:51.915 DEBUG isr wpc [wdenInterrupt] [pincom.c:346] wpc cmd 00000 126 0x7e 01111110 len: 1
2021-02-06 14:26:51.915 DEBUG isr wpc [soundWpcHandler] [sdl_sound.c:1900] wpcSoundHandler cmd: 0x7e 0x00 0x00 0x00, id: 126
2021-02-06 14:26:51.915 WARN SndServi [handleSoundByTypeWithIdx] [sdl_sound.c:1682] sample for id '126' not found
2021-02-06 14:26:51.916 DEBUG isr wpc [wdenInterrupt] [pincom.c:346] wpc cmd 00000 096 0x60 01100000 len: 1
2021-02-06 14:26:51.916 DEBUG isr wpc [soundWpcHandler] [sdl_sound.c:1900] wpcSoundHandler cmd: 0x60 0x00 0x00 0x00, id: 96
2021-02-06 14:26:51.917 WARN SndServi [handleSoundByTypeWithIdx] [sdl_sound.c:1682] sample for id '96' not found
2021-02-06 14:26:51.917 DEBUG isr wpc [wdenInterrupt] [pincom.c:346] wpc cmd 00000 032 0x20 00100000 len: 1
2021-02-06 14:26:51.917 DEBUG isr wpc [soundWpcHandler] [sdl_sound.c:1900] wpcSoundHandler cmd: 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00, id: 32
2021-02-06 14:26:51.917 WARN SndServi [handleSoundByTypeWithIdx] [sdl_sound.c:1682] sample for id '32' not found

steve45 Well, I changed the 74LVC00 and 74LVC138 for 74LX00 and 74LX138.
Still the same error, maybe even worse - it seems the #186 sound is played more often than before, but I haven't compared the logs.

So status is now 3 x 3.0 boards with the same error and 2 x 2.6 boards non-working .... :/
Maybe I should take up knitting instead ?

try to test on version 1.30, I also have strange things happening on 1.32, and the previous one is OK.

fly Thanks for your suggestion ! I tried a full, clean 1.30 install but got the exact same results.

I have now tried a couple of cards in IJ as well.
Here I get missing sounds, wrong music and other bugs.
For example the grail music starts playing instead of the standard music.
Music keeps playing when ball goes into through.
Etc. etc.

This I have tried with 2 different cards.

Can this be a Pi-issue ?

If someone has a 3.0 board working with WPC - could you take a picture of the 3 SMD chips so I can see which types work ?

Any update on kits? Ordered a couple months ago, not in a huge rush though. Thanks.

I just have an older version that i was going to put into a DE game. I plan on ordering a new 3.0 version to try in my Dr who.

I'm sure the root cause of the issue you've encountered will be resolved and that this project will continue. Great to see Steve getting time to focus on this project again!

I would say don't give up. Even though the interface seems complex it isn't rocket science. There may be some kinks in the handshaking, etc to work out. Once these issues are identified we will all benefit. What data can we provide to Steve to help get this sorted out?

I'd really like to see this project succeed.

I have a 3.0 board I assembled myself, full kit acquired through Steve.

Installed in a CFTBL. I originally had a specific callout being played randomly, and music stopping, as if it was missing a command. But for some reason over the last few weeks it has been working flawlessly (can't remember the version though I'll check tomorrow).

The core of false detection is likely a bus detection issue, which could be cause by multiple reasons, such as signal integrity, code missing detection (RPI is not a real time system).

I'm using a RPI3 Model A+

So I don't know what made it work, but I'm glad it does

It's just kind of shame that Steve is not very active in supporting the project, although to his defense he's probably not making a lot of money to justify the engineering investment (unlike Pinsound who charges a fortune). Also Steve has been actively developping a new version of PIN2DMD Editor which brings 64 colors capability, and the capability to develop colorization for Stern SAM, so I assume he did not have much time to spend on TiltAudio. Maybe if his code was open source other contributors would start looking into it and debug it more actively. But I know of a few not happy individuals on the Facebook french group that tried the solution and could not make it work.

A few suggestions:
- Besides the SMD components, check that all resistors are soldered correctly, reflow all of the connections, including headers
- if you have a RPI4, just install it (hopefully Steve can transfer the licence without charging), it's higher speed might be beneficial for more reliable command detection (completely shooting in the dark here to be honest).

@steve45, if you're reading this thread, it would be good if you could comment and assist with some guidance based on the logs.

@steve45, I believe you have slightly misread my comment.

I did state specifically that you were not making a lot of money on this project, if at all. And I stated a few reasons as to why you might have been slow in responding, time being the main issue.

So if you understood that I was stating that you should support because you were making money, this was not my intention, apologies for that. We all fully understand this is an diy project, and you have other obligations.

I even advertised tiltaudio on some French Facebook groups, starting it was clearly for the experienced individuals, but worth it if you had the skills.

However, the fact remains that some people fail to make it work (that's not my case, it does work), and raised questions that are currently pending. I don't know the ratio of success VS failure though, so this might be that success ratio is higher than what we see on pinside.

Let's hope these questions get answered with a root cause identified so that everyone benefits from the knowledge

Regards

Let's not start a flame war, we are all interested in finding a solution.
steve45 has been so kind as to get in touch with me in private, and we are going to try different solutions.

The problem is that if it works you will not read anything about it. Only issues or complaints are posted publicly.

lucky1 that's good to know about the Pi, it gives me another possible solution to test
I'll buy one today and try it out.

Very true. Although to my defense I did post publicly that is was working just fine for me (although I did have some unexplained behaviour at the beginning, which disappeared after I replaced my 12v regulator and I reflowed several solder points).

Anyway, as stated, apologize for the poor choice of words on my part.

Regards

a short video of how it works With BTTF, some fun with sound configuration and it will be OK, software version 1.30, because I have problems with 1.32, I don't know why

lucky1 I tried a brand new Pi out of the box, the problem remains.
I have tried different things (separate PSU, disconnect screen, 3 different cards in 3 different machines) and sent steve45 the logfiles.

Same here - I got excited for the software and hardware update and ordered one too. I followed up with Steve via email, but haven't heard anything yet.

I ordered the 2.8 board and a week later the new board came out. Steve sent the latest board

Took it to my local phone repair shop to solder the IC chips for us. Then soldered the rest of the components. Have it installed in my wwf royal rumble and works perfectly. Thanks Steve!

Mine is in the states somewhere. Shipped 2 months ago. Gotta love usps.