Looking at the letter on pinballnews, does it seem strange that there are no consumer creditors owed 1100 pounds?

I would have thought there would be quite a few consumer creditors owed the initial $1500 US deposit that never got a refund?

I find this odd also. I was out 1850 im on the list but it shows im owed the full amount of the game.

Wouldn't that be nice?!

CF03

Cointaker for $80,000 -ouch.

Actually, it is worse than that. It is 80,000 British Pounds = $108,000 per rubberducks post. Sorry to see this happen to such good folks.

Did anyone confirm this with CT??
$108K can sink a small company!

The amount showing for me is actually the balance I owed rather than deposit paid. All estimates anyway as they need proof of deposit even if you’re already on the list.

OK - that makes more sense. There are a lot of 4600ish pounds entries - that is around $6500 US which was probably the price of a standard edition. They may have simply recorded that amount for anyone that had a deposit.

...or this - it's showing the balance you still owed, which is strange.

Or if the china company is slick in the first place... and will sell you PinBro boards that are functionality equivalent

I think they'd still be pretty damn costly, and it would take them ages to sell those. Unless people pre-ordered them as spares.

Yeah, but CT made up for it with the huge profits that they got from JPop's CT edition of Zombie Adventureland.

what is the company/contact info?

I would be happy to see what is even feasible to help out the community of owners. 100 boards is really not too many since the game uses multiples.

If they are ~$2,000,000 in debt here, isn’t there a strong possible chance that they were trading insolvent (is that illegal)?

If so would communications otherwise be deemed misleading, and was the way Pinball Brothers transferred assets a legal way to restructure against exposure?

I’d be grateful if anyone can answer.

Due to all the errors where people who were owed deposits, wrongly shown as full amounts - wonder if the £80k was the amount Cointaker were going to pay but in the end they didn't?

That is my guess.

Not the first time CT has taken a big loss. Remember a guy named John Papaduik. That did not sink them, so I doubt this one will either.

Shitty thing is they might not bite off on a more righteous start up in the future because of these shipwrecks.

At the other end of the scale company creditor listing is conspicuously missing any Australian businesses.

Yeah probably.

Well, you were straight-up wrong about Alien becoming a Top 5 pin. That's for sure.

Straight up failure was the story here.

Alien might be a top 5 pin for those who were able to snag one. Damn shame on how this panned out.

Alien sucked. The game play was weak at best.

The endless multiball's get old fast like Hobbit.

I ‘member when multiball was THE thing you were shootin’ fer. The ultimate scoring fest... the pinacle of what the machine offered in the form of jackpots and super jackpots that put you over the top.

Now it seems they want to give you a multiball when ever you want one, but penalize you by making shots worth half their points... a ball in multiball should be worth more than just an extra sacrifice to the drain gods.

You haven't played recent Hobbit code - multiballs are much less frequent, and are mixed in with the way more advanced gameplay. I sold mine after playing it a few months, about a year ago. I just bought it back in November, and it's never leaving.

I will agree that it needs some refining, but the game does not suck...its a phenomenal pinball enviorment that really immerses you in the theme

I have to agree, Alien was not far off from being a top 5 machine. The machine has a good foundation: Good Layout, a great license, and a unique toy. As it sits right now, it is not a bad game.

Yes, I was definitely wrong on that.

I saw on facebook Andrew is being run out of town because his wife is being deported. fast pinballs, faster boats, and now fastest women. I still invite Andrew and his Wife to come to the states. I hear they are handing out goodies in CA if you can sneak across these days.

Link? Married means she has UK 'leave to remain', surely?

Edit: actually, I now remember they got married in Moscow, so it's a little more complicated, I guess.