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RAZA Pre-order Club: A Cautionary Tale

By NoMonkey

3 years ago


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“Which Edition Did You Order”

  • Arcade 27 votes
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Post #2440 Link to SEC filings story. Posted by BMore-Pinball (2 years ago)

Post #2468 Story of SEC indictment Posted by DakotaMike (2 years ago)

Post #2527 DR never owned the Zidware entity per report. Posted by wcbrandes (2 years ago)

Post #2676 Summary of DR outlandish things. Posted by TheFamilyArcade (2 years ago)

Post #2864 Charging back a RAZA preorder Posted by Mr68 (2 years ago)


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#2980 2 years ago
Quoted from Roostking:

Huh, seems like it would have been so much easier to say that like 1 month ago lol.
If it were true of course. Anyway, glad you got your money back on your bet, so other people's fees can go up. Great job buddy!

What the fuck dude - who made you judge, jury and executioner?

My fees go up every day because of deadbeats defaulting on CC and PPP loans.

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#2995 2 years ago
Quoted from Haymaker:

Really it sounds like the only people that got screwed were people who didn't take refunds for their original zidware spots, and little old ladies with retirement funds. Everyone else got to join in on the "fun" of supporting a scam company and true cancer of the hobby and walk away scott free.

So are you saying the preorder people should have known it was a $58m scam? If so, those little old ladies should know what they are investing in too! Shame on them for not doing their do diligence in what they invest in! Right? Just like the preorder people?

As a matter of fact do you know who is backing JJP or Spooky? Have you looked at their records?

Do you check up on every company you buy something from?? Common man - geez.

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#2996 2 years ago
Quoted from Roostking:

Im not, RM is, you just happen to put your head willingly on the chopping block for him.
And now you can count the bettors, i mean pre-orders, amongst the deadbeats.

False assumption- I am not a preorder guy.
I bet the people who can afford these potential machines are not deadbeats either.

Geez more dopey comments.
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#2998 2 years ago
Quoted from flynnibus:

You are conveniently overlooking the 3 plus years of extra data that pre-order buyers had before jumping in vs the zidware folks. Folks who locked in during the Fall 2020 window had ample signs and opportunities to NOT be there that others did not.

You are conveniently assuming everyone is on Pinside or constantly researching the company they bought something from!

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#3004 2 years ago
Quoted from metallik:

You didn't buy anything from anyone, you sent someone preorder money. And yea, it's normal due diligence to research something like a brand new pinball company, considering the failures of certain other brand new pinball companies, not to mention jpop himself.
If you're claiming to have done no research before sending money, you're pretty much admitting you're either lazy or stupid.

So are you calling those little old ladies stupid for not doing there research? Certainly they should have before investing their life savings into a company like DR!

FYI I do get what you are saying from my perspective as I research the hell out of stuff. My friends have told me many times you waste your time.

So bottom line I learned over the years, very few people do well their due diligence including those little old ladies!

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#3183 2 years ago
Quoted from Roostking:

Lol, im foolish. Who thought they could defy "the math" and needed bailed out by the cc company? Anyway. Got any leads on the next rare shiny?

Aliens LVs are coming soon.

Or try Haggis pin.

#3184 2 years ago
Quoted from Roostking:

Why? Did you get ripped off? No, as you are so happy to tell the world you gambled and got a push from the house. 300 + retirees didn't, thanks to you.
So no. Drain this thread, but it will live on, as a warning too don't be dum or greedy and speculative.

I’m confused- how did these guys affect 300 retires?

#3189 2 years ago

Again I am confused how potential RAZA buyers getting a refund are responsible for the 300+ people.

Only the mentally challenged can not understand the difference here.

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#3249 2 years ago
Quoted from Scandell:

Yeah YOU don’t get to make those jokes as you had contributed to the blind optimism.

The only thing worse is if you worked for the blind optimist!

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#3269 2 years ago
Quoted from Roostking:

No, you shouldn't have put money into this in the first place.
Maybe a hard and expensive lesson to learn. Serious question, given the facts, if the next new shiny appeared and the story was similar, would you buy in?

Yup with an Amex card for a deposit. Low to no risk baby!

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