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RAZA Pre-order Club: A Cautionary Tale

By NoMonkey

10 months ago


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“Which Edition Did You Order”

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Post #2440 Link to SEC filings story. Posted by BMore-Pinball (68 days ago)

Post #2468 Story of SEC indictment Posted by DakotaMike (67 days ago)

Post #2527 DR never owned the Zidware entity per report. Posted by wcbrandes (67 days ago)

Post #2676 Summary of DR outlandish things. Posted by TheFamilyArcade (66 days ago)

Post #2864 Charging back a RAZA preorder Posted by Mr68 (59 days ago)


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#2166 79 days ago

Oops wrong topic, I feel sorry for you guys....

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#3016 56 days ago
Quoted from NashtyFunk:

Got my $10,769 back. Thank God for credit cards.
Also got my Big Lebowski in this week, which was racing RAZA. Dutch Pinball wins.

"Early" Achiever?

#3023 56 days ago
Quoted from DakotaMike:

Ah, this old trope again. If new people don't keep buying TBLs, then old buyers won't get their games. Now I'm not current in whether Dutch is still actually making the Early Adopters whole or not. But that's the theory anyway. So don't make new buyers feel bad.

Yes, they do their best and the Early Achievers get a machine worth at least $12,000 for which they only paid $8,500 (without tax during that time).

#3117 54 days ago
Quoted from bmegar:

I called my credit card issuer and was able to get a refund.I explained what happened.I put the deposit on a American Express card issued though Wells Fargo

So that is the best learning, always use AMEX for deposits, they are the easiest to get a refund. But it can lead to that AMEX will charge pinball companies more or will not accept pinball vendors anymore as it becomes a risky category like adult sites.

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#3207 42 days ago
Quoted from wcbrandes:

You are always going to be successful with your card company when this kinda crap happens and is reported but do not think for a minute these companies don't do their homework! Once they see the details and the fact you signed Roberts basic "your fucked" contract, I would be very surprised if anyone gets to keep their refunds. Sorry to say this and I know everyone deserves it back however you had the opportunity to cash out and once you rolled the dice the credit card companies are off the hook. Lets hope in some circumstances they miss this! Fingers crossed for all of you!

I hope for the best for you all, AMEX backed me in a crowdfunding gone wrong situation, but yes, for other cards I don't expect you will get or can keep the refund.

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