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RAZA Pre-order Club: A Cautionary Tale

By NoMonkey

3 years ago


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“Which Edition Did You Order”

  • Arcade 27 votes
    52%
  • Xtra 25 votes
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Post #2440 Link to SEC filings story. Posted by BMore-Pinball (2 years ago)

Post #2468 Story of SEC indictment Posted by DakotaMike (2 years ago)

Post #2527 DR never owned the Zidware entity per report. Posted by wcbrandes (2 years ago)

Post #2676 Summary of DR outlandish things. Posted by TheFamilyArcade (2 years ago)

Post #2864 Charging back a RAZA preorder Posted by Mr68 (2 years ago)


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#462 3 years ago
Quoted from drfrightner:

For these reasons I won’t give them a red cent unless the owner can come on here and explain why he won’t pay back every single person and company who invested in this game the first time around.

So...the only thing missing for you to buy in on RAZA is an explanation? Call me crazy, but I have a feeling Robert could come on here and answer questions for hours and you still wouldn’t be a customer. Frankly, you appear to be in here to try and make people who are otherwise happy in here unhappy. Why not post in the other Deeproot thread or perhaps the JPop thread?

Quoted from drfrightner:

Maybe Deeproot can come on this very thread and explain their debt to Coin Taker and explain why they will or won’t pay them back that debt.

I like Coin Taker and the people behind them, but identifying Deeproot as affirmatively owing Coin Taker some type of debt seems unfair and filled with speculation (it also seems off topic). We know JPop/Zidware mistreated Coin Taker (and many other people), but a word like “debt” infers that you believe Deeproot incurred some kind of legal obligation and can’t make good on it...we just don’t know whether that’s the case or whether (if it occurred) it was conditional in some way or something else that didn’t or hasn’t yet happened. Deeproot is not Zidware...

Anyway, JPop landing at Deeproot is one of the most baffling things I’ve seen in pinball. I just don’t understand how JPop lands on his feet no matter what he does...and why Deeproot took him on with his baggage and shot reputation...but it’s done, he’s there (I guess anyway), and RAZA is coming out assuming Deeproot indeed can manufacture it. Let the people who are excited about RAZA be excited about RAZA.

#464 3 years ago
Quoted from hank527:

Coin taker needs to come on to let you know what happened. Short Story is Robert promised things that he didn’t deliver. It is very telling of Robert’s character. Deeproot absolutely owes Coin Taker.

Fair enough, I know nothing about it.

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