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RAZA Pre-order Club: A Cautionary Tale

By NoMonkey

3 years ago


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“Which Edition Did You Order”

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Post #2440 Link to SEC filings story. Posted by BMore-Pinball (2 years ago)

Post #2468 Story of SEC indictment Posted by DakotaMike (2 years ago)

Post #2527 DR never owned the Zidware entity per report. Posted by wcbrandes (2 years ago)

Post #2676 Summary of DR outlandish things. Posted by TheFamilyArcade (2 years ago)

Post #2864 Charging back a RAZA preorder Posted by Mr68 (2 years ago)


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#2182 2 years ago
Quoted from thechakapakuni:

No pins, no employees, legal issues, the building crumbled to the ground and burned but the roof is somewhat intact. Must be more speculation
[quoted image]

That's a great gif. Implodes so elegantly.

I thought the worry *this* time also had to do with them scrubbing their FB account, LinkedIn account, etc...

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#2632 2 years ago
Quoted from kklank:

Yeah this is a dead duck.
I respect all your opinions.
Best wishes.
I’m out.

Be happy you "only" lost...what? 1k or less? The ones that were burned by Jflop for 5 - 10k (or more) and DIDN'T take the early on refund offer really gambled and lost.

I'll still never understand this. After Jflop essentially stole everyone's money they had a chance to get it back.
It was the only good thing about this fiasco.

But instead of thinking "hey I'll get it back and put it in the red hot market and MAKE some money" they said "nah it's cool. Keep the cash and I'll hopefully get a valuable collectable"... or something along those lines.

I never got this and kinda lost interest in this thread when I saw this attitude.

Maybe after getting bent over by Pop a deuce they thought lightning couldn't strike twice? I dunno.

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#2919 2 years ago
Quoted from Yelobird: 2. Much like TBL. (For me) I viewed this long shot as a very small possibility to make those that invested (and lost) in Zidware Some chance to get Something for their loss. At the start of DR they had Nothing with only a 100% loss. My wager (like the current TBL) was IF enough people supported this game they Could possibly catch a Hail Mary and possibly be made whole to some extent. I (as was #kklank) willing to bet on Them. Sadly the play (wager) didn’t pan out but I would do it again!
We (KK and I) hedged a bet on DR. Didn’t loose any money but sadly his side investors (and past) did so still not a happy ending unfortunately.

This doesn't make any sense unless I'm missing something. The FIRST thing DR did to try to get rid of some of the stench of Jpoop was to offer full refunds to his earlier "customers" (read:victims). When you've been taken for 5, 10, 20K and now you can get your money back? How often in life does this happen? In my estimation anyone with any sense at all would thank god and jump on that refund. Pronto. A miracle. And many did. No more "100% loss".

The ones that didn't? Well they took a gamble that they may end up with a "valuable, limited" collectable that they could flip later. Since nobody knew what it would play like... what other reason could there be? For the art? Whatever... but that was their choice.

Point is they certainly didn't need you to buy anything to "make them whole". In fact it could be argued that your confidence and positive vibes throughout this scam may have led some to later buy into the final pre-order and truly be unable to get that money back. But hey... they're adults and know the risk of a pre-order with a completely untested entity.

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