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RAZA Pre-order Club: A Cautionary Tale

By NoMonkey

3 years ago


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“Which Edition Did You Order”

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Post #2440 Link to SEC filings story. Posted by BMore-Pinball (2 years ago)

Post #2468 Story of SEC indictment Posted by DakotaMike (2 years ago)

Post #2527 DR never owned the Zidware entity per report. Posted by wcbrandes (2 years ago)

Post #2676 Summary of DR outlandish things. Posted by TheFamilyArcade (2 years ago)

Post #2864 Charging back a RAZA preorder Posted by Mr68 (2 years ago)


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#1734 2 years ago
Quoted from Yelobird:

Come on it’s all love. I know my arcade will always be open to anyone that wants to give it a flip. It’s only pinball.

I want you to get your game so bad, i want to play it in Oct.
I want everybody with a deposit and payment to get a game.
I also want Robert to get into the game finally.
Fingers crossed for everyone.

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#1906 2 years ago
Quoted from Yelobird:

This thread should be lighting up soon….

Did you get the email?

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#2044 2 years ago
Quoted from kklank:

Have you seen Animal House?? It was a JOKE!………..uh………wow. But thanks for your history lesson. Lmao.

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? NO.

#2216 2 years ago
Quoted from LORDDREK:

Hey don’t overlook that artwork though. 40+ full time employees and untold thousands produced a really solid visual experience…

Could sell all images of art as NFT's.
Get some money back for pre order gang.

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#2493 2 years ago
Quoted from iceman44:

How about those PPP funds? Don’t see this one ending well.

This will not end well for Robert. How are the Federal prisons in TX? I assume no pinball in the day room.

#2534 2 years ago
Quoted from frolic:

Fair. Might they have sold more games if there hadn't been a tire fire thread? Quite possibly.

I'm still doughtful that they had deposits for 122 games.
Pretty sure that was an inflated number.

#2565 2 years ago
Quoted from iceman44:

I seem to have contracted diarrhea of the mouth syndrome from Benny.
Simple solution. It’s called the ignore feature. I love it myself
Hey I drained the other thread for you. And no I’m not gonna shut up so here’s to you.

Ice, what you shoot today? With wifi and cooler of beers, there are side bets here.
Ben shot on par today. Sorry, had to.

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#2659 2 years ago
Quoted from benheck:

I also enjoy seeing people who bought into Deeproot's bullshit LOSING THEIR MONEY.

Hey Ben, what company you doing a gig for right now, contract, whatever? Full employee, part time, only contract?
Just remember, people remember. And I kind of now the people over there at CGC to.
I know it's pinside, but this isn't the wild west, everybody's looking. See what I did there.

#2680 2 years ago
Quoted from TheFamilyArcade:

Take a picture of his back for me.
Christ on a cracker. Stop me when YOU think the bullshit was getting a little too thick:
Jpop is our lead designer (this is where I stop, personally)
The Five Days of DeepRoot
Pinball is Easy
RM is: mining in Africa, engineering IT systems, wunderkind financial expert, lawyer extraordinaire, entrepreneur, pinball designer, pinball OS designer, “Captain of the ship”.
Zombie Yeti and others threatened with lawsuits.
Zidware vendors aren’t paid.
NDAs!!
Quad Manufacturing.
We’re going to release 6 games all at once.
We’re going to release more games in one year than the rest of the industry combined.
Allegations of furloughs and salaried employees not being paid.
Dennis Norman leaves (no engineering/no progress)
We won’t launch a game until we can ship in two weeks. And no pre-order ever.
The PinBar (sharp angles and edges and all)
David Thiel leaves.
PinPod reveal!
Whoops, we invited 6 pinball media stars to our soft launch and, knowing more than us, they convinced us to delay.
Pre-orders. PRE-ORDERS!!!
30 day order window. Fake FOMO effort.
We’ll make some extras at higher prices.
Games shipping in February. February comes and goes.
PinPod exposed as an existing product rebranded.
UL certification more complicated than we thought.
Announcing non-announcement.
Not making extras after all.
Refunds offered, but must do it fast. No waitlist for new sucke…er, interested parties.
4 more months of delays. No reasons, no pictures, no nothing.
More furloughs.
“Unexpected (and undisclosed) lawsuit” further delaying communications.
Robert scrubs internet of personal Linked In and Facebook pages as well as multiple corporate web presence(s).
Major SEC filings against Robery Mueller, DeepRoot Funds, and a number of DeepRoot affiliates, including DeepRoot pinball.

My post was response to bagging on guys losing money. Big deal. Your Keypost has already been stated, so don't get that.
Thanks for reminding everybody that hasn't stayed current.
I chimed in long ago that this was a shit company and take your refund while you can get it.
I still think it's shitty to gloat in someone's lose.

#2681 2 years ago
Quoted from iEatHands:

What are you going to do? Cancel Ben?

Not if its a good game. Looking forward to it and wish him the best of luck..
AMH, beyond blah. But, he made a machine and I haven't. I'll give Benny that.

#2908 2 years ago
Quoted from RobT:

The main takeaway from Yelobird's post for me is that AMEX kicks ass.

27 year member AMEX here. Very Loyal customer and the miles add up to 3 or 4 plane tickets per year.
Amex settled with us with in 24 hours of our covid vacation last year that got cancelled.
American Aiines only would do store credit, Amex fixed that too.

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#3038 2 years ago
Quoted from Frax:

Threatening someone's livelihood is even more of a douche move than anything he'd said to this point.

No, I don't think so.Ben was giddy and pompous about guys losing money on games. Damn Happy about it.
I felt that was a douche move.
I also don't think I threatened him.
I implied that Everyone is watching your posts Ben. For a moment he was forgetting he's still in the industry.
AND.....That post is from 11 days ago, where you been, your late.

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