Can anyone please point me where the link for this is?

Not really. I'm just a numbers dork, and it happened to catch my eye that an unusually high percentage of the (right digits of) order numbers are divisible by 3... by a quick skim of this thread, ~76% of them, whereas statistically it should only be ~33%. This could be a statistical anomaly (considering the small sample size), or it could mean that the order numbers don't steadily increase by 1... which would only matter for people who see order number 100XXX and believe that means XXX games have been ordered. Of course Deeproot doesn't owe anyone an explanation of what their order numbers mean, if they mean anything at all.

I'm in an an arcade version #100183. Machine looks awesome.

As this is mostly a speculation thread I’m curious what the Xtra version topper will do since it’s noted as mechanical vs the one they showed. Also, as the production date for the Xtra topper is well past the proposed build date I wonder I’d those will just arrive later?

There isn't any special link. I think what ShinyNick meant was that folks with a goodwill agreement just recently received an email informing them that the deeproot website was now loaded up with store credit for you/them. Of course, you had to have created an account for yourself previously in order for them to have been able to apply the credits they had for you. They mentioned setting that up in a prior email.

At any rate, as I mentioned in an earlier post, if you log onto your account and then add a RAZA to your cart, the screen that shows you what's in your cart will also report the balance of store credit you have at the top of that page, so you know how much you've got to spend towards the machine.

Good luck and happy holidays all. Peace everybody.

Understood but the Stern topper was a for sale add on. The Xtra topper is included. Just hoping that’s just a later shipped item.

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Las time I checked 180 is divisible by 3.

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....again.....divisible by 3.

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I too am a numbers dork and I appreciate other math dorks out there. Math is logical and the only true rationale in the whole feakin universe . So when somebody starts discussing math and is completely coherent, it would be wise if ya'all took a minute to pay attention.

I thought I would chuck "ya'all" in there just to mix it up a bit.

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Ok, fair enough but I think Ferret has a legitimate point. His observation is based on logic, not on emotion.

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Yes it does!!! Thanks for sharing!

Same to you!

I guess I too am a numbers dork as I currently have 2 favorite numbers...

1 - how many RAZAs I ordered
100087 - my RAZA order number

After reading the TWIP deep dive numerous times, the code also looks to be fantastic and really fun as it is! Like deeproot said, all of their pins will ship with the final intended code. Any DLC developed after that will be optional and could be purchased individually, if so desired, outside of any subscriptions they may offer. Damn I’m excited!

Game looks good, but I haven't seen a game ship with final code in over 20 years, so this will be no different. Hopefully bug fixes are included in the standard purchase. Glad you're excited and hope it's great for you. Nothing like opening the box on a new game.

Thanks! Yes...all bug fixes will be free and included in the standard purchase.

By the way, good luck with Legends of Valhalla! Looks absolutely fantastic...if one of your goals is for it to go into production I’m pulling for you!

Quick follow up to my previous post...

If anyone hasn’t seen what Riot Pinball created with Legends of Valhalla (LOV), do yourself a favor and check it out! Like deeproot, I feel Riot is trying to push pinball forward whether it’s through innovation or through shot and layout variety. They are not doing the same thing we’ve seen over and over with just a different license applied to it. There are exceptions of course, but so many recent pins seem based on a proven formula and lack creativity.

I'd love for this go into production. Put me down for the #001!

I like it even more that I can save on shipping and drive up the street and grab it

My 144... omg, it's divisible by 3!

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(You and your very understanding and supportive wife playing them at the same time...his & hers!)

It looks like a very, very solid throwback styled game, with excellent modern amenities that blend, while creating greater function!

I maybe wish there was one more flipper, but honestly I don't think it would function well, given the layout.

Definitely excited, and teeter tottering on securing a spot/making room in my house/paying bills and such.

Oh so close though....

Bills are overrated and not as fun as pinball! Who needs a dining room anyway.

My order number is not divisible by 3, boo.
I can't be in the div by 3 club!!
#100025

I agree 100% with your thoughts regarding RAZA. In addition, my other big takeaway at this point is that it just looks fun to play. Good luck with whatever decision you make! The 10% deposit available on an Arcade Edition is definitely a nice option for those either tight on money due to the holidays or just looking to minimize financial risk or both!

The resale value on your RAZA won’t be anywhere near as high as the ones divisible by 3. Sorry about your bad luck. I’d order another one if I were you and hopefully that one will be divisible by 3!

Can anybody talk about the extras they added to their Arcade Editions? I'm trying to keep this thing on a budget and not blow up the price to a crazy amount. This is how I'm thinking of kitting mine out. What did everyone else do for theirs?

Trim & Legs: Stainless
Coin Door: Black
PinBar Screen Protector: none
Rings: Standard
Shaker Motor: None
Toys: Upgraded Toy Package (+$125)
GI Lighting: Installed (+120)
Glass: Standard
Topper: Standard Topper (+$300)
Standard PinKit Care Package: None
Support Package: Standard
Warranty Package: Standard
Shipping Container: Normal Box

Subtotal came to $6440. I'm questioning whether I really need the GI Lighting / Pinstadiums, as I generally play in a well-lit room, but the cost for them isn't too much really compared to actual pinstadiums. I opted not to get the neon rubbers, as I could always add them in later myself if I really felt like it. I also didn't add a shaker, as I don't care for them a whole lot to be worth the extra $100 to me.

I'm still debating whether to pull the trigger or not, as I'm also tempted to go in on an Alien instead, or try to wait for CGC's next game or for CGC to run some more MM SE's. And I'm also instead thinking about holding out for a nice used Wonka LE or a maybe even a Ghostbusters. Too many options on the table right now. It's a good time for Pinball I think!

I also am thinking on going in on a barebone arcade edition.

I say it is not needed. Robert talked in the video that the game does have regular GI lighting on the playfield.

This very well can be a 6 month+ wait if you already have not gotten in on the 2nd round of games with Cointaker.

Does anyone know how easy or hard it will be to change the glass on Raza? I've all ready got Invisiglass, so it seemed redundant to order RAZA with it, since i could just use my own, but now I'm wondering if it might be difficult to swap the glass?

My pins are actually IN my dining/living room to begin with, haha! And being a single dude, I don't even have a dining room table. Would get in the way of more pins, games and films!

Thanks for the kind words! Maybe you and I might be the 2 Pittsburghers with this game in our collections!

I kinda feel like the purple trim and legs might be worth it, despite the cylon box still being stainless.

Sidenote, I was listening to the TWIP podcast, and Robert gave an answer that sounded confusing regarding preorders for RAZA and distros. Everything I've heard states RAZA is direct via them, but he stated something that sounded confusing to that idea.

I asked about this, glass slides out after removing a couple bolts however it is not standard size because of the frame so you can't use your existing glass

Thanks for answering a qsn I had too.

I decided to bet on the possibility that the extra 'GI' (pinstadium-style) LEDs under the glass might be enough to offset most of the glare you'd normally purchase anti-reflective/non-glare glass to compensate for. Hope my theory pans out.

To be fair, I really was on a fence because $250 for a sheet of non-glare glass is a pretty good deal. Could have gone either way.

In my opinion, even ordering a bare-bones Ae as I did is still going to be fantastic. Without any additional options RAZA is still packed with mechs and the gameplay will be exactly the same. Good luck with whatever final decisions you make!

That was the direction I went...let us know what you ultimately decide...good luck!

We may end up having the only 2 in Pittsburgh, but I honestly don’t think that will be the case. I’m hoping deeproot gets a lot more orders for RAZA before the deadline. I may be wrong, but I think this will happen.

Regarding distributors, if I remember correctly they will get a “finders fee” for RAZA. Future titles will have traditional distributors in addition to direct sales, I think? Lol

Let us know what you end up ordering and best of luck!

Just a friendly reminder for those considering ordering RAZA...

INCLUDING TODAY, ONLY 3 DAYS LEFT TO ORDER!!!

I wonder if they are starting production today? We are exited since we have an Xtra ordered at 100153. This is just the invoice number.

I really hope they will improve their communication. I wish I was in the states.. I would have ordered I think. Too expensive for Europe.

What is the difference between phase shipping? How many machines are in each phase? Does anyone know?

Another question, does anyone know the dimensions of RAZA? Specifically, how wide is the backbox? I've got some narrow doorways, and a lot of times I end up having to unhinge backboxes to bring them in/out. New Sterns are narrow enough that I'm fine, but I wasn't sure if anyone knew how wide RAZA's are?

Email Deeproot. They should know. Haha

It is the same as a B/W in size as noted.