Just got a Metallica that has this installed. It is just superb. Had no issues with it but guess it makes sense to do the update above regardless. Cheers TimeBandit for such an awesome mod!

Thanks for the information!

In regards to the output on the TLS PCB... is it the unused "OUT5" and it's associated "GND"? If not, what connection is it?

Thanks again.

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Found the answer. For future reference there is good information starting at post#837 in this thread...
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/ramp-lighting-in-your-face-st-pro-brought-to-lifevideo/page/17#post-2879534

Can confirm this has definitely fixed the problem. It used to stay up if I started a game just after finishing the prior game, when unforgiven starts playing and the cross has just risen again. The very start of ‘attract mode’
If you let the section of unforgiven finish, it has never been an issue, only time it happens is when you start a new game just after it has risen.
Now it only stays up for the first ball then retracts again.
Thanks very much mate, good fix!

Patiently sitting on the sidelines waiting for dmd aprons ..... so looking forward to their return.

Any chance we will ever see a solution to the broken Metallica pro spinner sounds?

I'm pretty sure I remember reading this is totally dead because of Stern closing the port? So much so, I uninstalled my Sound Caller setup and just connected the spinners to the left-most and right-most picks.

Awesome! Thanks very much Mike!

Mike this has fixed the cross staying up as you can see in the start of my video. It momentarily makes the cross rise when the first ball hits the trough switch. Then drops it again when the new ball is on the shooter lane switch as you can see at the end of the video.
It doesn’t happen if you have started cross multiball during the first ball but it did happen when I got cross multiball on the second ball and drained, then when my third ball was in the shooter lane it lowered again.
It is usually only the first ball though, and only if the game is started whilst the unforgiven music is playing (if you let the short unforgiven music finish it does not have the issue at all), so all good, Nothing to stress about, great improvement!
Thank you very much for taking the time to fix it for the very limited number of people who it affects, I really appreciate it!

No stress at all mate, I really appreciate the updates, as I said it was something I could live with but awesome that you have taken the time to resolve!

I have done a bit more testing it has done a couple of weird things like rising and staying up during the start of sparky multiball. And it dropped a couple of times during cross multiball. (This has nothing to do with when I start a new game. It can happen randomly if I wait for unforgiven song to finish before starting or if I start during the song playing.)

As far as I can tell the ball one issues, when the cross rises when the ball drains and is in the trough and it goes back down when ball two is in the shooter lane, only happens if you start a game during the song unforgiven. As soon as that song fades out and relay 1 is engaged (Can hear it click), starting a game then has no issues (possibly something to do with relay 1 as if you quickly start a game before it disengages it doesn’t have the ball one issue either but can have similar problems on other balls)

I can certainly live with that if it’s too much trouble to chase out.
It is much better than before, where it sometimes stayed up for the whole game or until you finished cross multiball.

Another Metallica Pro has a rising cross thanks to TimeBandit(and Marco)! Thanks again Mike!

Worth the wait for sure!

Any update about this lightshow kit?

I played a couple games last night and the issue persists.

I will soon acquire a Tron Legacy Pro, which has already been modded with fiber optics but the fiber control is not game controlled, it's a simple remote control type device which cycles through colors.

I would therefore very much like to change it to a more evolved version, but I'm having a hard time finding a solution, will TLS Tron units be back in stock anytime soon ?

Alternatively, is there an open source version that we could build ? (similar to Pinduino, but using fiber optics instead of ledstrip)

Thanks and regards

Any updates on availability for Tron?

Hi Mike, any update on the Metallica kits?

I may be selling my Metallica and I think I might make out better if I sell the kit separately. What is the kit worth?

I would HATE to take mine out. It would take forever to remove.

I agree, it's gonna stink to get out. Especially with my low ceiling. I'm just not sure I'll get the value of the mods if I leave it in.

I paid 200USD, inclusive of shipping, for a new, not installed kit from an owner who never got around to installing it.

I wouldn't uninstall it. The Total Lightshow kit is one of those rare mods that I think you should be able to get your full money back on when you sell the game. It's a highly desirable mod, and it takes a long time to install.

Seems like the Met TLS would also help your game sell faster, the user experience is definitely enhanced. The only reason I would consider uninstalling would be if I had to sell Met for $ and knew I would be buying another down the road.

Is it safe to assume that the DMD aprons are not coming back? It's been a long time without any mention. Oh well, I'll have to spend my money on something else I guess.

Is there a list for Tron?

I would like to +1 myself for the MET pro kit.

I remember asking to be added to the TRON TLS kit list about 11 months ago, but this would probably be a better place to ask since it won't get lost in the jumble of other TRON posts in that thread.

+1 for a TRON TLS kit please

One Metallica Pro Kit for me please. Thank you!

I would also like to be added to the Tron TLS kit.

Please put me down for a Tron TLS kit.

I don’t think there is a Tron TLS kit list, but if there is, just in case, +1 for me too please

I emailed and pm'd Timebandit a month or two ago and haven't heard back :/ Really want the tron ramp mod!

Given the lack of response, I've been looking at building mine. I have pretty much things nailed down, just hesitating on the control system.

In that scope, If anyone has the Tron LE full manual, including board schematics, that would help

Regards

I did the same and I also asked to be put on the list on the TRON lovefest thread, before I found this forum thread. I have the EL wire set, but it's just blue and orange. I think it was a kit that was offered before the TLS and other ramp mods were available. His last post here is only 8 months ago, hopefully he shows back up with good news. Have to stay positive.

YES!!! I would like to +1 myself for the MET pro kit as well!! Last mod needed for my Met!

One more Tron TLE kit request here too.