Fort Wayne, IN
I just picked up my TWD Pro a few weeks ago and would LOVE a total light show kit to give it a premium+ style lighting effect!!!!!
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I'm trying to install LED OCD on top of the Total Lightshow in my non-LED version of Metallica. I'm coming out of the driver, into the OCD board, then into the Lightshow board. It seems to be working, but I don't have the matrix terminator boards installed. All the lamps went on all at once when I left them in the driver board and they won't fit anywhere else. Do I need these boards or are they for newer LED runs of Metallica?
Thanks.
Quoted from Shredso:I'm trying to install LED OCD on top of the Total Lightshow in my non-LED version of Metallica. I'm coming out of the driver, into the OCD board, then into the Lightshow board. It seems to be working, but I don't have the matrix terminator boards installed. All the lamps went on all at once when I left them in the driver board and they won't fit anywhere else. Do I need these boards or are they for newer LED runs of Metallica?
Thanks.
Yeah, don’t use the terminators if you are using an OCD board. And you correctly have the OCD board first in the chain. The OCD board has its own terminating resistors.
Quoted from epthegeek:I keep imagining using this rig to make the white spider targets on Spider-Man actual indicate real things well, instead of just marginally different brightness.
Yes, that’s coming. With perhaps also the arrow inserts for AC/DC, and the electric chair inserts on Met, which MIGHT be a useful alternative to the solid red arrow inserts.
Maurik
Quoted from TimeBandit:Yes, that’s coming. With perhaps also the arrow inserts for AC/DC, and the electric chair inserts on Met, which MIGHT be a useful alternative to the solid red arrow inserts.
Not sure what this would like like on Met. You dim the red arrow inserts? But can you actually individually dim inserts from this mod?
I built this to help design lighting patterns. It has all the inserts as well as the GI bulbs on it. So I can get an idea of overall effects.
And this is with the playfield details blacked out.
You can see from above why I had to control the inserts as well as the GI. To get a proper playfield effect you need everything synced up. And when you do it looks spectacular.
It's awesome to see how all of this is coming together. That software has to be tremendously helpful. I'd be very interested to see what patterns you've come up with for IM so far (attract lighting vs mode specific effects). The el-wire ramps will really take it to another level. This IM project is really going to turn some heads. Still patiently waiting 
Quoted from TimeBandit:Heads up for Met Pro owners looking to add the rising cross mech. Marco just started stocking a more reasonably priced ($150) assembly. The original full assembly is $250. Looks like it comes as a collection of the parts and is unassembled. There is no photo on the Marco store, but the part number checks out against the manual..
https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/511-7471-00
Received this kit and it is not quite as complete as I would have hoped. There are quite a few pieces not included to make this work and those don't look to be sold separately. My plan is to 3D print the missing parts.
The Kit:
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For fun, mine came missing one of the nylon guide blocks. Marco shipped me a replacement. Also it isn't clear to me why there are 4 diodes
What's missing; Parts 3,4,5 from the first diagram, 1,3 from the second and 4,5,6 from the third.
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Quoted from RobF:Received this kit and it is not quite as complete as I would have hoped. There are quite a few pieces not included to make this work and those don't look to be sold separately. My plan is to 3D print the missing parts.
The Kit:For fun, mine came missing one of the nylon guide blocks. Marco shipped me a replacement. Also it isn't clear to me why there are 4 diodes
What's missing; Parts 3,4,5 from the first diagram, 1,3 from the second and 4,5,6 from the third.
I wish I saw the initial post. This is now $269. And OOS.
Just hangin’ in the lab on a Sunday arvo with my homies..
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I’m deep in “chopping wood” code territory. Mapping a total of 96 GI and insert lamps, and syncing them all up across two drive systems so GI and inserts can be controlled as a group.
It’s all working as theory would predict, but it involves a lot of array building and XY coordinate mapping. Just a grind here for a few days.
This may not look like much, but this is one of the most significant tests I have done to date. This is GI and inserts being driven together, with the basis of illumination all set on XY coordinates rather than just cycling around the bulbs. The sweep is all math-generated and just sweeps a straight line of a certain width up the playfield.
The inserts are all multiplexed through the factory matrix and the GI individually driven, as I have described previously, all together on the same I2C bus.
There is a tiny glitch in one of the Mark inserts, but that's nothing to worry about at this point. Plenty of glitches will come and go before we are done. Obviously a lot of tweaking to come, but this is the end of the proof of concept prototyping. As far as I am concerned here, my hardware and code are all working as desired.
Truly amazing work, Mike! I can't wait to see the finished product.
I also love your Star Trek keyboard ...
thats some h0tt fucking shit, man. i have your tron set up and now i feel like i have to buy that pinball lol. in any case, doyou still have tron updates in development?
Quoted from raycasual:thats some h0tt fucking shit, man. i have your tron set up and now i feel like i have to buy that pinball lol. in any case, doyou still have tron updates in development?
Plenty of Tron to come yet.
Quoted from gweempose:I also love your Star Trek keyboard ..
It’s awesome!
Ok, pretty sure I can do anything now.. (better footage down the page a bit..this is sooo 24 hours ago)
Let's turn it up a notch.. 
Imagine this beacon around Monger as he rises out of the playfield, then the shockwave emanating from him when you hit him.
Quoted from Doctor6:As much as I am irritated you won't do walking dead pro, I have to say this is impressive as hell!! Not even stern is doing this. Like.... what gives?! So is it safe to assume your next light show mod will be for iron man?
Yes, Iron Man is getting "The Treatment". I have a "Creating an Iron Man Premium" thread where you can see the ramp lights and drop targets installed. This lightshow will cap it off.
And I will do TWD. I'm very keen now.
Quoted from TimeBandit:Yes, Iron Man is getting "The Treatment". I have a "Creating an Iron Man Premium" thread where you can see the ramp lights and drop targets installed. This lightshow will cap it off.
And I will do TWD. I'm very keen now.
Why rename the Tron thread to Iron Maiden instead of creating a new one?
Quoted from TimeBandit:And I will do TWD. I'm very keen now.
I said i'd help with TWD Pro, but i've not even got it delivered yet! Been with the courier for about 4weeks. I need to make space for it 1st, plus we've been having some rare 'good weather' here in the UK, so i've been heavily distracted doing outdoor stuff.
1 week later
Quick update. I am working at the moment only on performance. Scanning the entire machine and driving inserts at the same time is a little taxing on the setup and there are flicker and brightness issues creeping in.
I know how to solve it all, but I’m rebuilding quite a bit of code to get it right. Upside is of course that it will be rock solid upon release.
1 week later
First the bad news (not that bad). More delays. Hardware redesign.
Now the good news..
For the GI, I'm collapsing the form factor down to the size of an arduino shield. Instead of using six of the pre-built PCA9685 drivers, I am building a brand new dedicated board with the 6 chips on it. Using multiple pre-built units is adding ridiculous amounts of redundancy to the overall design, and to manufacture would actually have been a headache.
So, smaller, cheaper, easier to install, and I think the performance will be better (not sure if noticeable, but the I2C waveform is definitely affected by the pull up resistors, and the layout with multiple units treats the pull ups with disdain..I will treat them with more respect).
New board turnaround should be ten days or so.
Quoted from TimeBandit:First the bad news (not that bad). More delays. Hardware redesign.
Now the good news..
For the GI, I'm collapsing the form factor down to the size of an arduino shield. Instead of using six of the pre-built PCA9685 drivers, I am building a brand new dedicated board with the 6 chips on it. Using multiple pre-built units is adding ridiculous amounts of redundancy to the overall design, and to manufacture would actually have been a headache.
So, smaller, cheaper, easier to install, and I think the performance will be better (not sure if noticeable, but the I2C waveform is definitely affected by the pull up resistors, and the layout with multiple units treats the pull ups with disdain..I will treat them with more respect).
New board turnaround should be ten days or so.
How the heck do you think this stuff up???
Quoted from MustangPaul:How the heck do you think this stuff up???
Think? haha. Who's thinking? I just barge straight ahead until something breaks. Then go and read about why it broke. 
Keep aiming high for this project. Do what you need to do to make everything rock solid & jaw droppingly awesome 
No complaints about delays here.
2 weeks later
New gear day!!!
The pick and place was also supposed to arrive with this stencil printer, but the other truck didn’t make it. Tomorrow!
This lets me apply solder paste to boards and panels of boards in seconds. True home manufacturing is about to begin!!
This takes a lot of risk out of my little hobby/business as I no longer need to order boards in $10k batches in order to get the price to where I need it.
It even takes big industrial sized stencils, so I can make my custom DMDs for my DMD aprons myself.
It also allows me to expand into general board manufacture. For example, I am going to be making Alien replacement LEDs and proximity sensor switches, and keeping those parts going for years.
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Quoted from TimeBandit:New gear day!!!
The pick and place was also supposed to arrive with this stencil printer, but the other truck didn’t make it. Tomorrow!
This lets me apply solder paste to boards and panels of boards in seconds. True home manufacturing is about to begin!!
This takes a lot of risk out of my little hobby/business as I no longer need to order boards in $10k batches in order to get the price to where I need it.
It even takes big industrial sized stencils, so I can make my custom DMDs for my DMD aprons myself.
It also allows me to expand into general board manufacture. For example, I am going to be making Alien replacement LEDs and proximity sensor switches, and keeping those parts going for years.
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Great stuff.
Quoted from TimeBandit:New gear day!!!
The pick and place was also supposed to arrive with this stencil printer, but the other truck didn’t make it. Tomorrow!
This lets me apply solder paste to boards and panels of boards in seconds. True home manufacturing is about to begin!!
This takes a lot of risk out of my little hobby/business as I no longer need to order boards in $10k batches in order to get the price to where I need it.
It even takes big industrial sized stencils, so I can make my custom DMDs for my DMD aprons myself.
It also allows me to expand into general board manufacture. For example, I am going to be making Alien replacement LEDs and proximity sensor switches, and keeping those parts going for years.
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Damn! I just about had a nerdgasm. I suspect the pick and place will send me over the edge!
Keep the good times rolling!
Quoted from davijc02:I literally have no idea what any of this shit is
It does this..
Success!
First test is half speed. Second is full speed..
Quoted from Koos:I guess you didn’t only bought this new ‘toy’ for making pinball parts?
Sure did! All my stuff is on custom boards and I have new stuff coming out soon. I will also be doing simpler things just to help the global supply of parts.
That's awesome! What is the purpose of the brief pause over the light ring after it picks a component, just to verify it has picked it up properly in correct orientation?
Quoted from TimeBandit:It does this..
Success!
First test is half speed. Second is full speed..
That is soooo cool. Your in it BIG time now.
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