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Quick Draw help

By bicyclenut

3 years ago



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#5 3 years ago
Quoted from bicyclenut:

I just picked up a Gottlieb Quick Draw and something just doesnt seem right. Attached are pictures of the "P" relay in the belly. As you can see the top leaf switch does not have any wires to them. I can not find any wires that are missing or disconnected in the whole wiring harness.

You have a machine that had the "Steve Charland mod" done to it in the past. In a nutshell, many Fast/Quick Draws give spurious 100 pt scores during player change that somehow comes from the 500 pt relay circuit as the drop targets are reset. This mod positively opens the 500 pt relay circuit when the P relay is active to prevent it. It's a good mod if your machine does this.

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#7 3 years ago
Quoted from frenchmarky:

Oh yeah, the old 100 point glitch. If it's for that mod I wonder why somebody would have yanked out all the wiring for it?

Seems to pop up now and then for different owners but my Fast Draw doesn't have the mod and has never had that 100 point glitch once and I've had it for 30 years. The mod prevents it from happening but I don't think anybody has ever precicely determined why machine A does it but machine B doesn't. Slight difference in motor speed or differences in timing of this switch and/or that switch, who knows.

Your guess is as good as mine why there are no wires there now. Maybe a purist, albeit a half-assed one I would have to add, wanted to bring it back to original print, so he took out the wires, but then left the switch, just in case. Who knows - maybe someone had a coffee machine wired to it - people do strange things every day.

Yes it's kind of a mysterious thing and it's apparently a timing issue and it can be a bugger to get it working correctly. I know this because I had this problem with mine, and I fiddled with it for a while and just like Steve (who btw was no dummy when it came to pinball machines as I'm sure everyone knows), I could not get it to be fail-proof. So I added the isolation switch to mine and never had to think about it again.

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