No kidding. The record thumbs down to his last post makes the point. I'm not sure what upside there is to this.

I know if he starts with salesman voice and his stump speech about how in X years they went from his garage, to shipping multiple titles internationally, etc... it is just not going to go over.

The ONLY thing I can think, is complete humility. But with potential legal actions, not even sure if he could do that. So, what does that leave?

Donated. Dave's story posted on Pinballinfo.com is awful. I won't stand for stories of employees not being paid and taken advantage of because they are trapped in a situation.

Let's share this link and see if we can help Dave get on his feet somewhere.

gofundme just hit 1000 pounds! in 2 hours.

https://www.gofundme.com/dave-sanders-fund

Oh my gosh. I have down votes turned off for my account for my own sanity, but that sure is something.

Well, I will say the Investors Group did a great job staying in the shadows these past 10 months, never taking a public roll for anything, so when the shit has hit the fan everything fell back on Andrew because no one really knows anything of the new guys.

Not saying he is without blame, and I don't think he would say that himself, but someone else has been in charge for 10 months. Was Dave Sanders not paid these past 10 months? Why is his situation so bad at the moment, irregardless of whatever history him and Andrew have had? Were the new guys content to let Dave work "voluntarily" as well? If so, that is shit and on them.

You know, it would be just as helpful for the investors group to answer questions, to explain themselves and what they've done and how they went about it. There was a lot of questionable behavior these past 10 months.

Are these guys reachable at all? Or are they ghosts?