All jokes aside this machine could easily end up alongside some of the greatest music pins ever made.

Judging by the quality of their first machine and assuming PB will learn from the few small mistakes they’ve encountered…I don’t need to see gameplay video. I’ve been mislead by gameplay reveal videos in the past.

If a cookie cutter 1/5000 Toy Story 4 LE for $12k seems like a good deal…the collector in me sees way more value in the Rhapsody edition.

I’m in agreement with you for sure. Maybe you misinterpreted what I was saying. I’ve already ordered a Queen and have lost interest in JJP and Stern in general. Sold most of my Sterns long ago and have yet another for sale as we speak. I’d rather support the smaller companies, it’s obvious JJP and Stern don’t need my money. Hope there are others that feel the same.

I’m only getting a Queen because my wife loves them. I can play just about any machine and have fun on it by myself. Any title she will play with me and enjoy is worth taking a monetary loss but will only occur when/if we sell it. Don’t worry about losing money, I’m sure we have all made a profit on the sale of other machines in the recent past…it all evens out.

No sales tax here in Oregon. I forget other people have to pay that in other states. Would definitely make me look at things differently if I had to pay tax though.

Anyone have any idea what this “Razorback Electronics System” is that they advertise in the flyer? Guessing it’s nothing to get excited about seeing as how it’s next to the “8 inch bass speaker”

Im sure it’s “cutting edge” technology…get it?? RAZORback. Sorry bad joke.

Just wanted to stop by and complain about there not being any gameplay videos, it’s been a few days. On behalf of those who care and are unable to visualize what a ball rolling around the playfield would look like, myself NOT included.

Sounds like the odds are in your favor if the wife is a fan. I’m in the exact same boat.

That’s it I’m tired of waiting. Cancelling my order and getting approximately 1.5 Stern Pros instead.

What keeps people with Stern insider connect in their home from taking the glass off and setting high scores? The best answer would be dignity but we all know how that works. The only advantage of Wi-Fi on a pin at home is over the air code updates..who’s with me??

Ahhh that makes more sense..I tried the Insider connect once out in public and thought it was OK I guess but would rather have Wi-Fi on every new machine moving forward just for the code updates. The Wi-Fi adapter to fit in the USB cable is very inexpensive but saves a ton of time versus downloading onto a thumb drive and unzipping files etc.

Scorbit on JJP machines has been very uninspiring for the most part. I hope PB at least makes it possible to enable Wi-Fi on their machines at some point.

Pinball Brothers has gratefully declined their opportunity to provide any information about either one of their machines. Not sure what the best resource is…?? Their website has little to nothing, social media..same. Whatever that’s their call.

Oh well you’ll still have the chance to turn it into the “Groinshaker tailgate party.”

The only way I would ever put another pinball machine in a public place is if I own the business. It would be there for the sole purpose of drawing customers in to spend money on profitable items such as food/drinks etc.

Anyone that would put a $9,000+ machine in someone else’s bar for people to destroy, hoping to make money off it will be lucky to break even in the long run. $1/game isn’t enough even if 0% goes to the location. Nobody in their right mind will pay more than $1/game for pinball.

Anyone ballsy enough to get one of the first 80 off the line must be a self proclaimed repair genius. We will all be counting on you guys to show us how to fix our 2023 built machines.

I put my deposit down 7/22/22 and haven’t heard anything either. Par for the course though. You won’t hear anything until they want more money from you.

Someone needs to 1up him by drilling a hole in the playfield. Perhaps install a spinning pizza disc or pop bumper between the flippers.

Ordered mine 7/22/22 and no news at all.

I ordered 7/22/22 and still no action.

Ordered 7/22/22…invoiced and paid remaining balance this morning. Said game will ship 60-90 days in the notes on invoice.

I got shipment email this morning without a tracking number as well. FedEx was who brought the last machine I got from them.

Mine is scheduled to be delivered tomorrow. I’m not a Queen fan so I’ll soon be able to give a rating without the music/band itself being a factor. Being a collector, average at best player and more intrigued by the mechanics of a machine doesn’t allow me to give very detailed reviews of the code/rules etc.

I do have a fairly diverse lineup to compare it to for what it’s worth. Hopefully get it set up and put a few games on it this weekend.

So I got it set up and put a few games on it..I’ll give my thoughts on what I’ve observed so far. The sound system is amazing, especially after adjusting all the volume levels other than the music down to 60 give or take. The callouts and fanfare would drown out the music at the factory levels.

Visually stunning, the lights mounted in the apron facing the flippers are awesome. Lit side blades are killer.

Things that might not appeal to some: the drop targets can severely disrupt the flow. Hit a mini loop shot and the ball comes out the other side and hits the back of the other drop target sometimes causing a drain instead of feeding back to the flipper. One of the shots on the right the goes up under the mini playfield more often than not hits something under the mini PF and comes back. I haven’t taken the time to investigate what it’s hitting or where it’s even supposed to go…can’t really see up under there very well. The objective shot can sometimes be confusing, for instance the screen often says “shoot the album alley” took me a minute to figure out where that even is. The ball gets trapped between the metal flap and the ramp coming up from the left VUK. Hopefully it will “break in”.

I’ve heard great things about pinball brothers support and will need to put it to the test. There are definitely some issues in the condition that it was delivered to me even though there was no damage to the box itself. One head scratching quality control issue that I took pictures of, maybe I have too high of standards with a $12,000 machine. What kind of saw blade was used on this playfield side rail?? Beaver tooth??

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Here’s the rest of the pics of things not PB brothers fault including:
Rusty grab rails under the PF
Dinged up backbox/decals/side rail.
All the apron cards and stickers appear to have gotten wet.
Goodie Box took a beating.
Without any damage to the box how would you ever guess. Aside from unboxing it before you let the truck driver leave.

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There was no visible damage to the shipping box. Seems like maybe it tipped hard to one side and hit the backbox against something. The only thing protecting the machine inside the cardboard was a plastic bag. Maybe the impact to the backbox ruptured the plastic bag allowing damp/salty air into the machine. The plastic bag was very yellowed/discolored.

I think most if not all of the damage occurred during shipping. Given the amount of corrosion on the rails who knows what could be going on inside the multiple electronic devices that can’t be seen. My Alien LV arrived in perfect condition somehow. I was kind of surprised considering the lack of padding inside the cardboard.

Hopefully you guys all get mint machines and mine was there to absorb the impact.

Yes that turntable on BM66 is a bitch..my rollover switches in the physical ball lock wouldn’t register when a ball was sitting on them. Went into perpetual ball search and could never start the multiball. Had to disable the physical lock for a while just to make it playable. Getting to the rollovers requires removing the motor and gear assembly from underneath.

My IMDN pro however was the most reliable machine I’ve ever had, granted it had less moving parts than the Prem/LE.

I did the same thing to mine right away. The callouts and fan noise would drown out the best part..the music itself.

Hey you’re welcome..something seemed “off” with the factory settings. Glad there was an adjustment for it and that my findings were helpful to at least one other owner!

Anyone else experiencing a code glitch?? New V2.0D/1.03 firmware…after completing a song and hitting the ball into the album collect saucer. You are then given the choice of a new song, choose a song then the screen freezes on the song selection image and doesn’t kick the ball up into play. Or even when you’re in a song and the screen says “shoot the green lit shot” and there aren’t any green lit shots. Sometimes the mini playfield toggles between white and green but those aren’t the song mode shots. Something’s a little off with some of the song mode progression shots and the associated lighting.

Maybe it depends on the song you choose. I’m still scratching my head about the song mode where you apparently have to “double flip to the beat” to progress the mode. Not very intuitive, maybe that’s why there are several of these machines up for sale right now…??

As you are selecting a song it will give a brief description of each songs goals on the screen. I always choose whatever song has the standups lit so I can at least have something visible to shoot for. Haven’t figured out the auto launch logic either. If you’re scrolling left in song selection with the left flipper button then try to scroll right it selects a song and auto launches the ball even though only one button is being pressed at a time. The ball should only launch and select the song if both buttons are pressed and held simultaneously. At least that’s how every other machine I’ve ever had has worked.

Once I’ve gotten past the amazing lights/sound etc and try to figure out the rules/code/scoring etc things get frustrating. The magic shot for example, once I get the guardian drop out of the way long enough to shoot the saucer behind it..90% of the time the ball pops back out and doesn’t register. The shot blocking guardian drop targets are up and in the way too much. Then if you get a couple of them down they pop back up way too soon, before all of them get knocked down. Lots of clunky rattling around shots, shots that don’t register. Right orbit shot often goes nowhere and comes back down,

Random multi balls…maybe the song I was in they’re supposed to happen. If so, there is no indication on the screen or in the callouts. Not referring to the main Wembley or Red special MB. Bohemian Rhapsody song has different “phases” to it and maybe that is what caused the multiballs but I’m still having a hard time figuring it all out.