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Queen of Diamonds Question


By Pinball-DOOD

2 years ago



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#1 2 years ago

In our machine, we have all of the factory documents from Gottlieb! They are in great condition but I had a question about a notice that Gottlieb gave to the operator. The note says that the machine has a feature where lightly tapping the bottom side of the cabinet will turn off the GI and put the game in almost a "sleep mode". I didn't wanna go about bashing the bottom of my machine up so I never gave it a shot but I did lightly hit the bottom and nothing happened! Is this a switch? I'm gonna explore when I get home.

#2 2 years ago

Hi
Don't have that pin, but if you look at the bottom board, there may be a switch mounted to it, with a peg extending down from it.
Tapping on the bottom, makes the peg jump up, and open that switch.
If that's your case too, its made to work that way.

#3 2 years ago

Pretty common feature on earlier games.

Just want to say that QoD is an excellent game too. Awesome nudgefest.

#4 2 years ago
Quoted from Dr_of_Style:

Hi
Don't have that pin, but if you look at the bottom board, there may be a switch mounted to it, with a peg extending down from it.
Tapping on the bottom, makes the peg jump up, and open that switch.
If that's your case too, its made to work that way.

Awesome! I will check it out! Thanks!

#5 2 years ago
Quoted from Frax:

Pretty common feature on earlier games.
Just want to say that QoD is an excellent game too. Awesome nudgefest.

Thanks, man! FINALLY! Someone likes QoD! It was the first machine we got and it was a gift from my grandpa. He bought it for my dad in about 1971 and it has been home use ever since! We found it in my grandpa's basement all these years later and it's beautiful. I'm 19 years old and some of my favorite pins are the 50's EM's. I love the art and the gameplay is so addicting!

#6 2 years ago
Quoted from Pinball-DOOD:

FINALLY! Someone likes QoD!

What, really? What's not to like aside from triple gobble holes? LOL. Even my wife liked it when we played a restored one at Texas Pinball Festival 2015. Just tons of fun to try and shoot all those targets without sinking the ball.

I'd totally stop by and have a QoD throwdown next time we end up in Louisville...we have family there.

#7 2 years ago
Quoted from Pinball-DOOD:

Thanks, man! FINALLY! Someone likes QoD! It was the first machine we got and it was a gift from my grandpa. He bought it for my dad in about 1971 and it has been home use ever since! We found it in my grandpa's basement all these years later and it's beautiful. I'm 19 years old and some of my favorite pins are the 50's EM's. I love the art and the gameplay is so addicting!

Aaaah, now THAT'S what I like to hear... young people that are 'into' the EM's. Very important (at least to me). I would like to see these great games that I love so much... live on and be enjoyed by future generations to come.

#8 2 years ago
Quoted from Pinballprowess:

young people that are 'into' the EM's.

very rare indeed! my wish too, is that younger folks get into EM machines, pins, and arcades!
some very cool history there that can't be seen when your whole day is stuck in that damn phone...

#9 2 years ago

Screw you guys, I'm only 35... ;P

(Spend my whole day stuck in the phone...whatevs, pops.)

#10 2 years ago

Pinball-dood,

Those machines never had true on/off switches. Easiest solution if you don't want to kick it is to put it on a switchable power strip. You could also rig up a short extension cord and an inline switch. However if you want to add an actual switch I'd recommend changing out the power cord at that time and putting in one with a ground.

Mike V

#11 2 years ago

Cool game, though I do prefer the art of the 1960 version World Beauties.

#12 2 years ago
Quoted from Frax:

What, really? What's not to like aside from triple gobble holes? LOL. Even my wife liked it when we played a restored one at Texas Pinball Festival 2015. Just tons of fun to try and shoot all those targets without sinking the ball.
I'd totally stop by and have a QoD throwdown next time we end up in Louisville...we have family there.

That is awesome, man! And yes For sure!

#13 2 years ago
Quoted from Pinballprowess:

Aaaah, now THAT'S what I like to hear... young people that are 'into' the EM's. Very important (at least to me). I would like to see these great games that I love so much... live on and be enjoyed by future generations to come.

Thank you! I totally agree. I am obsessed with those 50's and 60's Gottlieb's! Everytime I see an EM from that era at a convention, my heart skips a beat with excitement Hahha. I love those machines.

#14 2 years ago
Quoted from Dr_of_Style:

very rare indeed! my wish too, is that younger folks get into EM machines, pins, and arcades!
some very cool history there that can't be seen when your whole day is stuck in that damn phone...

Thanks, man! I LOVE EM pins. Such beautiful craftmenship and quality in those machines. The artwork on all of those games is killer! The game play is amazing as well. I wish pinball competitions could have some 1950's EM's in there. People complain because they can't rack up a score on them but it seems all of us here probably could Since we all love EM's. I love every pinball machine to be honest, man. If it's by Gottlieb, Williams, Bally, Stern then it's amazing in my book

#15 2 years ago
Quoted from RacingPin:

Pinball-dood,
Those machines never had true on/off switches. Easiest solution if you don't want to kick it is to put it on a switchable power strip. You could also rig up a short extension cord and an inline switch. However if you want to add an actual switch I'd recommend changing out the power cord at that time and putting in one with a ground.
Mike V

I just have a power strip. Thanks for your feedback, man.

#16 2 years ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

Cool game, though I do prefer the art of the 1960 version World Beauties.

Thank you! Ah, yes the art is pretty awesome haha

#17 2 years ago

Hey Frax, dude come to the Louisville pinball expo in March I'm trying to spread the word!

#18 2 years ago

Yes, they used it into the mid-60's. Lots of people just reach into and tap the weight on the switch to turn them off. Be careful though, I forget if that switch is live with 120 volts or just 30 (volts).

I have never been able to do it either the few times that I have tried. Regardless, at this point in time, I would suggest not bashing the bottom of the cabinet anymore.

jrpinball's brother had a North Star at Pinfest he had adjusted just right so that a firm tap with two fingers or so onto the coin door (tilt switch there, I'm guessing?) would shut it off. Yet it never seemed to shut off during normal play, even when nudging. Pretty cool to see.

I don't feel comfortable shutting them off that way though and especially would never let that fly in my house as the only way of shutting machines this old off. A much safer alternative is a real power switch like the later 60's and on machines have, but I still don't even come close to trusting that. It still runs live power constantly through the service/convenience outlet, which runs through a fuse holder, etc., etc., still a lot of voltage going through the machine while you sleep at night. Power strips and light switches on dedicated outlets are what I do. During long vacations even the power strips get unplugged in addition to (obviously) being switched off. Can never be too safe, and it saves time on turning them all on anyways, rather than waste it. Even if it did waste time, the extra 10 second of time spent would probably be worth it.

Quoted from Pinballprowess:

Aaaah, now THAT'S what I like to hear... young people that are 'into' the EM's. Very important (at least to me). I would like to see these great games that I love so much... live on and be enjoyed by future generations to come.

Quoted from Dr_of_Style:

very rare indeed! my wish too, is that younger folks get into EM machines, pins, and arcades!
some very cool history there that can't be seen when your whole day is stuck in that damn phone...

I'm only 18 yet still crazy as the rest of you.

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#20 2 years ago
Quoted from Otaku:

Yes, they used it into the mid-60's. Lots of people just reach into and tap the weight on the switch to turn them off. Be careful though, I forget if that switch is live with 120 volts or just 30 (volts).
I have never been able to do it either the few times that I have tried. Regardless, at this point in time, I would suggest not bashing the bottom of the cabinet anymore.
jrpinball's brother had a North Star at Pinfest he had adjusted just right so that a firm tap with two fingers or so onto the coin door (tilt switch there, I'm guessing?) would shut it off. Yet it never seemed to shut off during normal play, even when nudging. Pretty cool to see.
I don't feel comfortable shutting them off that way though and especially would never let that fly in my house as the only way of shutting machines this old off. A much safer alternative is a real power switch like the later 60's and on machines have, but I still don't even come close to trusting that. It still runs live power constantly through the service/convenience outlet, which runs through a fuse holder, etc., etc., still a lot of voltage going through the machine while you sleep at night. Power strips and light switches on dedicated outlets are what I do. During long vacations even the power strips get unplugged in addition to (obviously) being switched off. Can never be too safe, and it saves time on turning them all on anyways, rather than waste it. Even if it did waste time, the extra 10 second of time spent would probably be worth it.

I'm only 18 yet still crazy as the rest of you.

Haha dude I remember you! We talked earlier about reflowing header pins on my Firepower to fix the fidgety displays haha. I actually even unplug my power strip to be extra sure. That is very cool that you saw someone shut the machine off like that. I would never beat the bottom of the game to get the game to shut off because I'd feel like I'm just bashing it up. I'm just wondering if that mechanism still works! I was just curious.

#21 2 years ago

These are old photos but I have replaced the flipper boots and bought new targets from Steve Young. I could old wiggle one target off and replace it but Gottlieb put the originals on so dang tight!

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#22 2 years ago
Quoted from Pinball-DOOD:

Hey Frax, dude come to the Louisville pinball expo in March I'm trying to spread the word!

We will be going to Texas Pinball Festival... we missed it this year so I could go to Vegas for IFPA Nationals.... I won't be making that mistake twice. We want to go to Louisville Expo at some point though, it's on the list. It's one or the other though...my job sucks a fat one and me getting that much time off in a month basically guarantees I'd have no vacation for the rest of the year. =|

#23 2 years ago
Quoted from Frax:

We will be going to Texas Pinball Festival... we missed it this year so I could go to Vegas for IFPA Nationals.... I won't be making that mistake twice. We want to go to Louisville Expo at some point though, it's on the list. It's one or the other though...my job sucks a fat one and me getting that much time off in a month basically guarantees I'd have no vacation for the rest of the year. =|

Ahh, I'm sorry to hear, man! I really want to go the Texas Pinball Festival

#24 2 years ago
Quoted from Pinball-DOOD:

Ahh, I'm sorry to hear, man! I really want to go the Texas Pinball Festival

It's awesome. We have so many EM people now, it's kind of borderline crazy. And yeah, if you make it before Bob Herbison dies, and he has a booth, you may spend the ENTIRE SHOW there with his 4 or 5 games. You've never seen Queen of Diamonds era stuff so clean and well-playing...

#25 2 years ago

NICE! I need to head down there, man! We need a show that is just EM's

#26 2 years ago
Quoted from Otaku:

I don't feel comfortable shutting them off that way though and especially would never let that fly in my house as the only way of shutting machines this old off.

I'm not squeamish about turning off my games by rapping the bottom. If the switch is adjusted properly, just one nice firm rap will do the trick. They were made to take this. If you don't want to though, I would recommend a switched outlet strip rather than hacking in a power switch on a game that never had one.

#27 2 years ago

I do like what my brother does on his games though. One firm knuckle knock on the coin door nicely shuts the game off.

#28 2 years ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

I'm not squeamish about turning off my games by rapping the bottom. If the switch is adjusted properly, just one nice firm rap will do the trick. They were made to take this. If you don't want to though, I would recommend a switched outlet strip rather than hacking in a power switch on a game that never had one.

I'm very curious about this mechanism! Do you know where it is? I would have to refer to the schematics.

#29 2 years ago

Found the switch!

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#30 2 years ago

Yup, thats it. the bottom was left loose and that allows it to flex enuf when you rap on it, to pop that switch open.
There's nuthin to worry about rappin on the bottom of the pin, its the only thing there.
the bottom mech board is suspended above the bottom.
you cud kick the dog s#!t out of the bottom, and really not hurt the pin.
not that I'm recommending that...

#31 2 years ago

Pinwiki has a photo of the switch and a short explanation of its use: http://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=EM_Repair#Turning_Machines_On_.2F_Off

Have you upgraded the cord to a grounded cord and added ground braid to the machine? Machines of this era were not grounded. If something goes wrong YOU can be the path to ground and get a shock. Vid has an excellent guide that shows how to upgrade the cord. https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/replacing-line-cords-plugs-wall-sockets-vids-guide#post-1945124

Have you checked the fish paper on the coin door? Your game has 120v running to the coin mechanism. The fish paper is the only thing insulating you from that 120v. http://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=EM_Repair#Safety

#32 2 years ago
Quoted from Dr_of_Style:

Yup, thats it. the bottom was left loose and that allows it to flex enuf when you rap on it, to pop that switch open.
There's nuthin to worry about rappin on the bottom of the pin, its the only thing there.
the bottom mech board is suspended above the bottom.
you cud kick the dog s#!t out of the bottom, and really not hurt the pin.
not that I'm recommending that...

Haha! Thanks

#33 2 years ago
Quoted from YeOldPinPlayer:

Pinwiki has a photo of the switch and a short explanation of its use: http://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=EM_Repair#Turning_Machines_On_.2F_Off
Have you upgraded the cord to a grounded cord and added ground braid to the machine? Machines of this era were not grounded. If something goes wrong YOU can be the path to ground and get a shock. Vid has an excellent guide that shows how to upgrade the cord. https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/replacing-line-cords-plugs-wall-sockets-vids-guide#post-1945124
Have you checked the fish paper on the coin door? Your game has 120v running to the coin mechanism. The fish paper is the only thing insulating you from that 120v. http://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=EM_Repair#Safety

It's an original cable

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