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PSA: Come on people... Down with Napatha, up with Novus 2!

By Otaku

6 years ago


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    #36 6 years ago

    Naptha isn't a cleaner to scrub out dirt - It's a solvent used to break down oils and leave a residue free finish. The lack of residual is why it's mentioned so much as a 'cleaner' inbetween processes.

    If you are trying to clean ball swirls or grooves - you aren't going to use Naptha. If you do, you're wasting your time and materials.

    If you want to wipe down the game and disolve any loose grime and leave no residue - Naptha will work.. but is kind of a waste of material.

    If you are trying to scrub stuff - you use something with an abrassive - that's when we use Novus2. Novus is solvant AND grit = why it works well as a cleaner of ground in dirt.

    #84 6 years ago
    Quoted from TopMoose:

    If anyone wants to clean their play fields with liquid sandpaper (because that's what Novus is), that's totally their prerogative. It's your game and you can treat it however you want.
    My concern is that newbies will find this thread wanting to learn how to clean their game and end up hurting their machines because of bad information. Remember, just because half of Pinside cleans their play fields with Novus, doesn't mean it's the best method.

    So is auto polish... yet we use "liquid sandpaper" all the time on our cars that cost multiples more than our pins and way thinner clear coats.

    To worry about removing finish with novus on a modern game... you better have a long time and an overly aggressive powered tool. Rags and novus2 are not going to remove a whole finish.

    #90 6 years ago
    Quoted from pacmanretro:

    You did also note that the start of this thread specifically mentions EMs and 60s-70s machines as well right? Not a heck of a lot of clear on those....not saying it good/bad, just saying I'm sure it's a lot easier to go too far there than the "modern" machines you mention.
    Only mentioning it solely because that's what OP seemed to be discussing more so.

    Well... zero clear actually More like varnish. In the decades prior to pinside... I never came across anyone who took paint off with Novus on a playfield. The concerns have been "oh crap, n3 sure is more gritty than I thought!", and "magic eraser went too far...".

    We've had to be worried about water based products planking playfields far far more than anyone has had to be worried about Novus2 being too aggressive for playfield finishes.

    This whole thing is just a tempest in a teapot because some people have been preaching extremes. Truth is "use the least aggressive method necessary, and move up if your prior effort didn't cut it". Some instead try to talk in binary... and that is great if you want to incite contrary responses.. or troll forums

    #103 6 years ago
    Quoted from markmon:

    Novus 2 "cleans" plastic by finely scratching the crap out of it smoothing out all the small scratches in the process. If that plastic was a layer covering the playfield, you wouldn't want it scratched away.

    As does EVERY type of polish - that's how they work. Knocking down edges - not removing material like backhoes.

    Compounds = aggressive cut
    Swirl Removers = medium cut
    Polishes = fine cut
    Glaze = filler
    Waxes = Protective top coat

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